HTML editors

[Colyn]

Since TSW Webcoder is no longer free are there any other decent
choices available?
I'm not interested in W.Y.S.I.W.Y.G. editors.

Amaya looks good.. Any comments??

 

[nomail]

Since TSW Webcoder is no longer free are there any other decent
choices available?
I'm not interested in W.Y.S.I.W.Y.G. editors.

Amaya looks good.. Any comments??

http://www.htmlbeauty.com/

 

[El Gee]

Since TSW Webcoder is no longer free are there any other decent
choices available?
I'm not interested in W.Y.S.I.W.Y.G. editors.

Amaya looks good.. Any comments??

I am a huge fan of Chamisoft's HTML Kit if you are using Windows.
Bluefish if you are a *nix nut

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[Michael Laplante]

Since TSW Webcoder is no longer free are there any other decent
choices available?
I'm not interested in W.Y.S.I.W.Y.G. editors.

Amaya looks good.. Any comments??

Isn't Amaya a wysiwyg editor? (And not a very good one at that.)

The problem I find with text based editors is that many of them are good for
initially composing pages, but aren't very good when it comes to editing or
changing pages afterward.

I use Notetab Pro which is a commercial product, but the freeware version
Notetab Lite (www.notetab.com) works just as well except no syntax
highlighting which really does make text editing a whole lot easier. What's
nice about these is the ability to set up your own code snippets and the
ability to highlight the start and end of tags. That's really speeds up the
process of editing I find.

Another nice feature is live updating, i.e. when another program alters the
html file, Notetab can detect this and will then give you the option to
update the file in Notetab. How is this useful? Well I will sometimes
alternate between using Composer (wysiwyg) and Notetab on the same file.
Composer helps me nail down the overall look and Notetab lets me clean up
the code, add comments / scripts, etc.

Notetab also has a built-in scripting language, letting you set up macros to
do all sorts of fast / bulk editing.

Composer is part of the Mozilla suite
(http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/). Some people here recommend
NVu which is related to Composer, but I find NVu buggy.

Some other recommedations:

PSPad (www.pspad.com) comes highly recommended in this group. I like this
program too -- very similar to Notetab in capability. In fact, it has some
distinct built-in advantages that I have incorporated into my Notetab using
its (Notetab's) scripting.

Alleycode (www.alleycode.com) has a nice feature -- synchro editing -- which
almost like wysiwyg. Highlight the section in the wys mode and the
corresponding code is highlighted in the adjacent window, ready for editing
by hand. However, its post-editng capabilities are clunky. If you could
combine this with code snippets, an efficient "find and replace" function
and live updating this could be an excellent program.

M

 

[Craig]

I am a huge fan of Chamisoft's HTML Kit if you are using Windows.
Bluefish if you are a *nix nut

El Gee;

I thought I'd take a peek...It's not chamisoft from what I can see but...

Chami.com: Resources for web developers and Internet users

Thanks for the heads-up. Good-looking product. Btw, ever notice that
html authoring companies have confusing websites?

-Craig

 

[El Gee]

El Gee;

I thought I'd take a peek...It's not chamisoft from what I can see
but...

Thanks for the heads-up. Good-looking product. Btw, ever notice that
html authoring companies have confusing websites?

-Craig

I stand corrected, you are correct. And yes, I have noticed that.
Luckily I never have to go there much

It is a great product and has plugins to allow you do do almost
anything. I have not found a better text based editor.

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[Marv_M]

Isn't Amaya a wysiwyg editor? (And not a very good one at that.)

I consider Amaya better than average for wysiwyg. If you note that its
written by(for) the folks at the World Wide Web Consortium then you can
depend on it throwing dead on valid code. Just stay away from the
experimental features and you should be okay. I've noted that it also
won't tend to fiddle with non-standard code like others might but does
present a nice way to pick up errors that creep in as you do hand coding.

I find I use structure view a lot to pick out an modify complete, large
elements that might be tough to do with a coding editor. Such as adding a
"<blockquote>" around the contents of a single cell or table element to
put a little visual space around it.
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[Salem P]

Since TSW Webcoder is no longer free are there any other decent
choices available?
I'm not interested in W.Y.S.I.W.Y.G. editors.

Amaya looks good.. Any comments??

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I like http://www.coolpage.com/. The free version has coolpage popups, but
it's really not that difficult to remove them using your note pad.

 

[Michael Laplante]

I consider Amaya better than average for wysiwyg.

More accurately, I didn't find it very user friendly. I like editors /
generators that use a word processor metaphor. Amaya was. . . unique and I
could never get a handle on it.

Furthermore, rarely did the final output look like anything I composed in
it. Not sure why that was -- possibly the different ways non-compliant
browsers interprest compliant code?

Nor do I remember it incorporating CSS but I haven't looked at it in a long
time.

M

 

[Marv_M]

More accurately, I didn't find it very user friendly.

True in the sense that it does <em>not</em> have a very Windows-centric
toolbar/menu layout. The learning curve can be flattened a bit once you
realize the menus are oriented according to function rather than the way
they would be in a strictly windows style.

..

Furthermore, rarely did the final output look like anything I composed
in it. Not sure why that was -- possibly the different ways
non-compliant browsers interprest compliant code?

Probably, I always though Amaya rendered in a rather simplistic way. (it
never has done frames) I use it more as a quick way to do general layout
and to check just why things went horribly wrong when I misplaced a tag
.

Nor do I remember it incorporating CSS but I haven't looked at it in a
long time.

It does css now. In fact it does some (image) things that won't even
render in most all browsers. I prefer to just use Amaya to link to an
external file and do the heavy css with Top Style Lite.
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[Marv_M]

I like http://www.coolpage.com/.

????

Of course, so far I've not been any more helpful.

Just googled TSW Webcoder to see what features it did have.


*Advanced internal preview
*Advanced project management
*Built-in FTP client

Html-kit. www.chami.com/html-kit/

*Common dialogs (images)

Html-kit

*CodeLibs

Html-kit (plugins)

gbCodeLib http://www.garybeene.com/gbware/gbcodelib.htm

*CSS Inspector
*CSS IntelliSense
*CSS overview

Top Syle Lite http://www.bradsoft.com/topstyle/tslite/index.asp
Html-kit (plugins)
http://www.chami.com/html-kit/support/docs/pages/h000106.html

*HTML Inspector

Html-kit plugin hkTagTreeLite
http://www.html-kit.com/e/hkpdl.cgi?f=hktagtreelite&i=10

*HTML IntelliSense
Html-kit

*Integrated W3C validation
Html-kit
Amaya

*Linkchecker
Xenu
http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html

*PHP IntelliSense

sorry, I don't do PHP

*Scripting
*Syntax coloring & wordwrap
Html-kit

There are others I'm sure, but the plugin structure of Html-kit make it
likely that most web authoring functionality you need will be available.



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[Kurt]

True in the sense that it does <em>not</em> have a very
Windows-centric toolbar/menu layout. The learning curve can be
flattened a bit once you realize the menus are oriented according
to function rather than the way they would be in a strictly
windows style.

AH ha! So, I'm not quite the total dummy I was thinking I was.

.

Probably, I always though Amaya rendered in a rather simplistic
way. (it never has done frames) I use it more as a quick way to do
general layout and to check just why things went horribly wrong
when I misplaced a tag
.

Simple is good. Especially for me.

It does css now. In fact it does some (image) things that won't
even render in most all browsers. I prefer to just use Amaya to
link to an external file and do the heavy css with Top Style Lite.
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So, I need some help getting a page to actually show images. Do I need
to make an external link to the image file? If so, can you point me to
a "how-to".
TIA

 

[Marv_M]

So, I need some help getting a page to actually show images. Do I need
to make an external link to the image file? If so, can you point me to
a "how-to".
TIA

Getting a bit OT but as coding goes, that's one of the things that tend
to drive you bugnuts. Just be sure that the link, whether literal (<img
scr="http://someplace.com/image.jpg"> or maybe <img
scr="file://c:/webpage/images/image.jpg">) or relative (<img
scr="/images/image.jpg">) is going to be valid once you upload and test
your page.

Also, be sure to save the page in the editor and then refresh the browser
preview. (Doh....)

More info than you'll ever need.
Web Developers Virtual Library http://www.wdvl.com/

Have fun...


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[Kurt]

More info than you'll ever need.
Web Developers Virtual Library http://www.wdvl.com/

Have fun...

Thanks, Marv. I'll go check it out.

 

[rmaniacnyc]

Try sea monkey it has a WYSIWYG/ HTML views

http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/