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Tony Hill
Hmm.. interesting quote:
"It is unclear how, if at all, workstation software for Itanium-based
systems will evolve in future, if other makers of computers decide to
withdraw Itanium 2-based workstations."
Uhhh... doesn't it kind of require that there ARE other companies
making Itanium 2-based workstations before they can be withdrawn?!
SGI doesn't sell any, IBM doesn't, Dell doesn't, Sun sure as hell
doesn't...
So, umm.. does ANYONE sell an Itanium workstation?
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Grumble
Yousuf said:
Strange.
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/SubFamMatrix.asp?ProductLineId=433&FamilyId=1324
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/SubFamMatrix.asp?ProductLineId=431&FamilyId=1474
I don't see what makes the rx1600-2 unfit as a workstation.
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Robert Myers
Grumble said:Strange.
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/SubFamMatrix.asp?ProductLineId=433&FamilyId=1324
http://h71016.www7.hp.com/dstore/SubFamMatrix.asp?ProductLineId=431&FamilyId=1474
I don't see what makes the rx1600-2 unfit as a workstation.
http://www.hp.com/products1/itanium/infolibrary/whitepapers/rx4640_2600_1600_wp_FINAL_4-14-04.pdf
"The Integrity rx1600-2, rx2600-2, and rx4640-8 servers do not deploy
AGP graphics bus technology."
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Judd
Somebody must be for Intel to say they are having record Itanium sales.
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Yousuf Khan
Judd said:Somebody must be for Intel to say they are having record Itanium
sales.
Well, Itaniums can be either workstations or servers. This makes it look
like there may only be a server market left for Itanium now.
Yousuf Khan
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Robert Myers
Yousuf said:Well, Itaniums can be either workstations or servers. This makes it look
like there may only be a server market left for Itanium now.
At least some who might have been characterized as workstation customers
will be buying (and have been buying) "servers."
The products that HP continues to offer compete more directly with white
box rack-mounted "servers" that can be used as is or hooked up into a
Beowulf cluster. For someone who might be scaling up to a cluster, the
rack-mounted version makes more sense to begin with.
RM
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Judd
Robert Myers said:At least some who might have been characterized as workstation customers
will be buying (and have been buying) "servers."
The products that HP continues to offer compete more directly with white
box rack-mounted "servers" that can be used as is or hooked up into a
Beowulf cluster. For someone who might be scaling up to a cluster, the
rack-mounted version makes more sense to begin with.
So it's just a server product now? Boy did Intel screw this one up. The
costs aren't too prohibitive. I wonder why it just didn't take? There is
decent enough reason to need 64-bit at the workstation level. Desktop PCs
just don't matter in terms of 64-bit right now. Workstations you would
think would have taken to it. Intel must have some serious marketing issues
going on.
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CJT
Without a volume desktop market, I think the Itanium will probably goRobert said:At least some who might have been characterized as workstation customers
will be buying (and have been buying) "servers."
The products that HP continues to offer compete more directly with white
box rack-mounted "servers" that can be used as is or hooked up into a
Beowulf cluster. For someone who might be scaling up to a cluster, the
rack-mounted version makes more sense to begin with.
RM
the way of the 860.
http://www.cs.utk.edu/~ghenry/isug.ps
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CJT
If you want a 64 bit workstation, you can buy Opteron, SPARC, or POWER.Judd said:So it's just a server product now? Boy did Intel screw this one up. The
costs aren't too prohibitive. I wonder why it just didn't take? There is
decent enough reason to need 64-bit at the workstation level. Desktop PCs
just don't matter in terms of 64-bit right now. Workstations you would
think would have taken to it. Intel must have some serious marketing issues
going on.
You don't need an unproven Itanium.
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Yousuf Khan
Judd said:So it's just a server product now? Boy did Intel screw this one up.
The costs aren't too prohibitive. I wonder why it just didn't take?
There is decent enough reason to need 64-bit at the workstation
level. Desktop PCs just don't matter in terms of 64-bit right now.
Workstations you would think would have taken to it. Intel must have
some serious marketing issues going on.
Most programming work is probably done on workstations rather than servers.
So without Itanium workstations, there can't be many Itanium server apps
made.
Yousuf Khan
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Carlo Razzeto
Judd said:So it's just a server product now? Boy did Intel screw this one up. The
costs aren't too prohibitive. I wonder why it just didn't take? There is
decent enough reason to need 64-bit at the workstation level. Desktop PCs
just don't matter in terms of 64-bit right now. Workstations you would
think would have taken to it. Intel must have some serious marketing
issues
going on.
They are not abandoning 64b workstation. The artical states that they are
making this move because demand has shifted to Intels EMT64 Xenon's. The
only part that gets me is that HP still isn't making any workstations based
on the Opteron/AFX.
Carlo
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Yousuf Khan
Carlo said:They are not abandoning 64b workstation. The artical states that they
are making this move because demand has shifted to Intels EMT64
Xenon's. The only part that gets me is that HP still isn't making any
workstations based on the Opteron/AFX.
If they had announced that they are replacing Itanium workstations with
Opteron workstations, then there would be hell to pay with Intel. Here they
are being diplomatic and stating that they are replacing one Intel product
with another.
Yousuf Khan
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Tony Hill
Somebody must be for Intel to say they are having record Itanium sales.
How so? It's been fairly widely published that the Itaniums sales are
mostly from HP's servers and SGI's high-end HPC systems. Neither of
these are in any way workstations.
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Judd
CJT said:If you want a 64 bit workstation, you can buy Opteron, SPARC, or POWER.
You don't need an unproven Itanium.
Opteron is proven? Ridiculous comment seeing how it's come long after IA64.
Sparc and Power I agree with but their costs are prohibitive.
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Judd
Tony Hill said:How so? It's been fairly widely published that the Itaniums sales are
mostly from HP's servers and SGI's high-end HPC systems. Neither of
these are in any way workstations.
To the tune of 100,000+... I don't believe that.
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CJT
I believe I read that more Opteron processors were sold THIS QUARTERJudd said:Opteron is proven? Ridiculous comment seeing how it's come long after IA64.
Sparc and Power I agree with but their costs are prohibitive.
than Itaniums in all time.
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Yousuf Khan
Judd said:Opteron is proven? Ridiculous comment seeing how it's come long
after IA64. Sparc and Power I agree with but their costs are
prohibitive.
x86 isn't proven?
Yousuf Khan
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Yousuf Khan
Judd said:To the tune of 100,000+... I don't believe that.
Well, the statement is that 100,000+ Itanium processors were "shipped".
There was no mention of them actually being sold. Might be a lot of systems
lent out to developers.
Yousuf Khan
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David Svensson
Yousuf Khan said:Most programming work is probably done on workstations rather than servers.
That is not true. Most of the development on VMS and HP-UX atleast is
done by telnet or remote X connections. HP has also never shipped
workstations as developer packages, they have shipped rx2600 servers
for that purpose.
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