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Neerav
i want total control over files, folders, programs and setting.
Neerav
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]
Change your account privileges to Administrator and turn off User Account
Control (not recommended).
Control (not recommended).
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Malke
Neerav said:i want total control over files, folders, programs and setting.
Neerav
You asked this question - or something similar - in another newsgroup
and I believe you still have an active thread. What was the point of
posting this extremely vague statement here?
If you want "total control over files, folders, programs and setting"
then learn how to take it. If you don't feel that Vista meets your needs
this way, install a different operating system such as Linux (suggest
you roll your own for total control or use Slack) or a flavor of Unix
and learn how to use it.
If you have a specific problem with Vista that you'd like help solving,
post providing full details. Otherwise, your post is just a whinge. I'm
not interested in reading whinges so this is EOT for me, but someone
else might be more charitable towards you, so here are some guidelines
for getting help on Usenet:
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/page2.html#Usenet
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375 - How to Ask a Question
http://users.tpg.com.au/bzyhjr/liszt.htm - How Not to Get Technical Help
on Usenet
Malke
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mayayana
Turn off UAC.
Log on as Administrator. That is, actual Administrator
rather than the Vista dummy administrator:
1) Open the command prompt with Administrative privileges by opening the
Start Menu, typing cmd in the search box. Then press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to
open cmd with admin rights.
2) Type the following in the command prompt and then press Enter:
net user administrator /active:yes
3) Restart the computer and then log in as Administrator.
(Search Google for that command string if you want more info.)
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I use the following in the Run box to uninstall PCHealth
on WinME and XP. I'm not certain whether it's still the
same setup on Vista. You should be able to confirm by
looking at your INF folder and/or checking for a PCHealth
key in the Uninstall key of
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
To uninstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultUninstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
To reinstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultInstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
Note that the INF folder path may need to be adjusted. The
downside of uninstalling PCHealth is that it also removes Windows
help and seems to disable msinfo.exe, the System Info. applet. You
may want to copy the help file(s) from the PCHealth folder
before proceeding. The upside is that this turns off System File
Protection, the hare-brained scheme for protecting system files by
pretending to let you delete them and then replacing them
from a secret, on-disk stash! With SFP gone you can then control
all files. You can delete whatever you like. You can get rid of
the hundreds of MB used for the SFP backup. And you can save pointless
wear and tear on your hard disk caused by SFP scanning for changes
every few seconds.
Log on as Administrator. That is, actual Administrator
rather than the Vista dummy administrator:
1) Open the command prompt with Administrative privileges by opening the
Start Menu, typing cmd in the search box. Then press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to
open cmd with admin rights.
2) Type the following in the command prompt and then press Enter:
net user administrator /active:yes
3) Restart the computer and then log in as Administrator.
(Search Google for that command string if you want more info.)
--------
I use the following in the Run box to uninstall PCHealth
on WinME and XP. I'm not certain whether it's still the
same setup on Vista. You should be able to confirm by
looking at your INF folder and/or checking for a PCHealth
key in the Uninstall key of
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
To uninstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultUninstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
To reinstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultInstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
Note that the INF folder path may need to be adjusted. The
downside of uninstalling PCHealth is that it also removes Windows
help and seems to disable msinfo.exe, the System Info. applet. You
may want to copy the help file(s) from the PCHealth folder
before proceeding. The upside is that this turns off System File
Protection, the hare-brained scheme for protecting system files by
pretending to let you delete them and then replacing them
from a secret, on-disk stash! With SFP gone you can then control
all files. You can delete whatever you like. You can get rid of
the hundreds of MB used for the SFP backup. And you can save pointless
wear and tear on your hard disk caused by SFP scanning for changes
every few seconds.
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Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]
'Administrator Account'
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Bruce Chambers
Neerav said:i want total control over files, folders, programs and setting.
Neerav
Simply log on using an account with administrative privileges.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
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Kerry Brown
Log on with an administrator account. Learn the differences in how you
manage a computer in XP vs Vista. With UAC on I haven't found anything I
couldn't do from a management/control perspective on a Vista computer that I
could on an XP computer. It may have to be done differently but it can be
done.
manage a computer in XP vs Vista. With UAC on I haven't found anything I
couldn't do from a management/control perspective on a Vista computer that I
could on an XP computer. It may have to be done differently but it can be
done.
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mayayana
Trying to send this post a second time. There's
something funky with this newsgroup. About 25%
of the time the posts show up on Google news but
not on the msnews server!
Turn off UAC.
Log on as Administrator. That is, actual Administrator
rather than the Vista dummy administrator:
1) Open the command prompt with Administrative privileges by opening the
Start Menu, typing cmd in the search box. Then press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to
open cmd with admin rights.
2) Type the following in the command prompt and then press Enter:
net user administrator /active:yes
3) Restart the computer and then log in as Administrator.
(Search Google for that command string if you want more info.)
I use the following in the Run box to uninstall PCHealth
on WinME and XP. I'm not certain whether it's still the
same setup on Vista. You should be able to confirm by
looking at your INF folder and/or checking for a PCHealth
key in the Uninstall key of
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
To uninstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultUninstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
To reinstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultInstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
Note that the INF folder path may need to be adjusted. The
downside of uninstalling PCHealth is that it also removes Windows
help and seems to disable msinfo.exe, the System Info. applet. You
may want to copy the help file(s) from the PCHealth folder
before proceeding. The upside is that this turns off System File
Protection, the hare-brained scheme for protecting system files by
pretending to let you delete them and then replacing them
from a secret, on-disk stash! With SFP gone you can then control
all files. You can delete whatever you like. You can get rid of
the hundreds of MB used for the SFP backup. And you can save pointless
wear and tear on your hard disk caused by SFP scanning for changes
every few seconds.
something funky with this newsgroup. About 25%
of the time the posts show up on Google news but
not on the msnews server!
Turn off UAC.
Log on as Administrator. That is, actual Administrator
rather than the Vista dummy administrator:
1) Open the command prompt with Administrative privileges by opening the
Start Menu, typing cmd in the search box. Then press CTRL+SHIFT+ENTER to
open cmd with admin rights.
2) Type the following in the command prompt and then press Enter:
net user administrator /active:yes
3) Restart the computer and then log in as Administrator.
(Search Google for that command string if you want more info.)
I use the following in the Run box to uninstall PCHealth
on WinME and XP. I'm not certain whether it's still the
same setup on Vista. You should be able to confirm by
looking at your INF folder and/or checking for a PCHealth
key in the Uninstall key of
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall
To uninstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultUninstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
To reinstall PCHealth:
rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultInstall 132
C:\WINDOWS\INF\PCHealth.inf
Note that the INF folder path may need to be adjusted. The
downside of uninstalling PCHealth is that it also removes Windows
help and seems to disable msinfo.exe, the System Info. applet. You
may want to copy the help file(s) from the PCHealth folder
before proceeding. The upside is that this turns off System File
Protection, the hare-brained scheme for protecting system files by
pretending to let you delete them and then replacing them
from a secret, on-disk stash! With SFP gone you can then control
all files. You can delete whatever you like. You can get rid of
the hundreds of MB used for the SFP backup. And you can save pointless
wear and tear on your hard disk caused by SFP scanning for changes
every few seconds.
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Val
It's Windows. You will never, ever have full control. You might think you
do, but Redmond knows better what's best for you....
i want total control over files, folders, programs and setting.
Neerav
do, but Redmond knows better what's best for you....
i want total control over files, folders, programs and setting.
Neerav
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uvbogden
I agree with you that an Administrator should be able to do whatever he wants
to do with his computer. I happy to get reminders, requests for
confirmation, or restricting what non-administrator users can do, but I
believe I should have full control of my computer and not be "denied access"
just because MSFT decided they want to restrict my activities. I challenge
MSFT to let Administrators have full access and control of their computers
without having to jump through hoop after hoop.
Specific Hoops You Can Jump Through:
Take Ownership/Permissions
Even running as Administrator may leave you without permissions to modify
some files or folders, even ones that you have just downloaded and installed.
To access or modify (copy, delete, rename) files or folders you can take
Ownership of (in your Username) and grant yourself Full Control permissions
of the files or folders in question described in the following tutorial.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
To avoid having to do this individually for hundreds of files, Take
Ownership of large branch folders (or even whole drives) like Program Files
folder, Users folder, or Windows folder, and grant yourself Full Control of
the "folder, all subfolders, and all files" contained in the folder. In the
case of Program Files, you would have full access to all your programs. In
the case of Users folder, you would have full access to your Music, Pictures,
Videos, Documents, etc. In the case of Windows folder you would pretty much
have full access to your OS, including Windows Installer. These folders are
all major branches of your C:\ drive that can be accessed by clicking on
Computer->C:\. Unfortunately, there may be some system files and folders
that will still deny you access; in this event, you can access them from the
Command Line in a Command Prompt box with Run As Administrator selected.
Windows Explorer Run As Administrator
Another way to gain access to modify files and folders includes going to the
Start button, typing in Windows Explorer, right-clicking on this and
selecting Run As Administrator. You should then have "elevated privileges"
to do whatever you wish to files in Windows Explorer.
Unlocker Program
There is also a program called Unlocker that you can use to gain access to
modify files and folders.
http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
to do with his computer. I happy to get reminders, requests for
confirmation, or restricting what non-administrator users can do, but I
believe I should have full control of my computer and not be "denied access"
just because MSFT decided they want to restrict my activities. I challenge
MSFT to let Administrators have full access and control of their computers
without having to jump through hoop after hoop.
Specific Hoops You Can Jump Through:
Take Ownership/Permissions
Even running as Administrator may leave you without permissions to modify
some files or folders, even ones that you have just downloaded and installed.
To access or modify (copy, delete, rename) files or folders you can take
Ownership of (in your Username) and grant yourself Full Control permissions
of the files or folders in question described in the following tutorial.
http://www.vistax64.com/tutorials/67717-take-ownership-file.html
To avoid having to do this individually for hundreds of files, Take
Ownership of large branch folders (or even whole drives) like Program Files
folder, Users folder, or Windows folder, and grant yourself Full Control of
the "folder, all subfolders, and all files" contained in the folder. In the
case of Program Files, you would have full access to all your programs. In
the case of Users folder, you would have full access to your Music, Pictures,
Videos, Documents, etc. In the case of Windows folder you would pretty much
have full access to your OS, including Windows Installer. These folders are
all major branches of your C:\ drive that can be accessed by clicking on
Computer->C:\. Unfortunately, there may be some system files and folders
that will still deny you access; in this event, you can access them from the
Command Line in a Command Prompt box with Run As Administrator selected.
Windows Explorer Run As Administrator
Another way to gain access to modify files and folders includes going to the
Start button, typing in Windows Explorer, right-clicking on this and
selecting Run As Administrator. You should then have "elevated privileges"
to do whatever you wish to files in Windows Explorer.
Unlocker Program
There is also a program called Unlocker that you can use to gain access to
modify files and folders.
http://ccollomb.free.fr/unlocker/
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~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:.
Start Orb>in the search box>secpol.msc>Click enter on the application it
finds. Now when that pops up in Local Policies>Security Options>The very
top option is for the hidden admin account. Enbale it and restart. Then
hidden admin account will be available to use.
The Profile will be set to default so your wallpaper and window setting will
not be in the profile you will have to set it up.
finds. Now when that pops up in Local Policies>Security Options>The very
top option is for the hidden admin account. Enbale it and restart. Then
hidden admin account will be available to use.
The Profile will be set to default so your wallpaper and window setting will
not be in the profile you will have to set it up.
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AlexB
Do you own this PCHealth website you recommend?
Anybody who reads this: NEVER EVER turn you UAC off. The malware writers
will be delighted if you do. Wake up your convolutions a bit and learn how
to handle it. It is user friendly.
Anybody who reads this: NEVER EVER turn you UAC off. The malware writers
will be delighted if you do. Wake up your convolutions a bit and learn how
to handle it. It is user friendly.
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AlexB
Can't you see that, Neenav is another alias for mayayana?
Its is a clever promotion for PCHealth.
Its is a clever promotion for PCHealth.
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mayayana
Can't you see that, Neenav is another alias for mayayana?
Try rereading my post. PCHealth is not a website
or a product. In WinME/XP, PCHealth is the name that
Microsoft gives to a combination of System File
Protection (SFP) and Windows help. SFP is the
function that replaces any deleted or changed
Windows file from a hidden cache. SFP can be
shut off by removing PCHealth. In Vista the same
functionality is now called System Resource Protection.
I don't know whether it's still part of PCHealth or
whether PCHealth still exists in Vista, but I was
suggesting that that might be worth looking into.
Its is a clever promotion for PCHealth.
Try rereading my post. PCHealth is not a website
or a product. In WinME/XP, PCHealth is the name that
Microsoft gives to a combination of System File
Protection (SFP) and Windows help. SFP is the
function that replaces any deleted or changed
Windows file from a hidden cache. SFP can be
shut off by removing PCHealth. In Vista the same
functionality is now called System Resource Protection.
I don't know whether it's still part of PCHealth or
whether PCHealth still exists in Vista, but I was
suggesting that that might be worth looking into.
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~Alex~.:MVP Windows Shell/User:.
Please UAC is nothing but a overburdern for a common sense PC user. Why
prompt for every action taken? If I know that I clicked on the installer
for Opera why ask me for Admin rights to install it? Please till they Get
UAC acting in a better manner it is NOT NECESSARY. A simple Anti-Virus and
decent firewall software takes better care of your PC than UAC ever could.
UAC is overrated and overly complicated.
If a user wants to move a file why should UAC Block it? They know they are
moving it. They prompted the PC TO MOVE it. So why should they need Admin
rights to do so? The PC wouldn't have even tried to move it if ti wasn't
for the user. So where is the plus side to UAC. Yeah if you download a
trojan it will block it from installing. If you have Avast installed you
don't download the trojan at all. It tells you that it is a trojan before
you even finish the download.
Great process they have. Please get over it. Ihave used Vista without UAC
since I started with it and have yet to get a virus. Why cause I use common
sense and a good Anti-Virus. Get voer it. UAC will not protect you since
they have already posted about ways to get around UAC. Therefor UAC is
nothing anymore.
prompt for every action taken? If I know that I clicked on the installer
for Opera why ask me for Admin rights to install it? Please till they Get
UAC acting in a better manner it is NOT NECESSARY. A simple Anti-Virus and
decent firewall software takes better care of your PC than UAC ever could.
UAC is overrated and overly complicated.
If a user wants to move a file why should UAC Block it? They know they are
moving it. They prompted the PC TO MOVE it. So why should they need Admin
rights to do so? The PC wouldn't have even tried to move it if ti wasn't
for the user. So where is the plus side to UAC. Yeah if you download a
trojan it will block it from installing. If you have Avast installed you
don't download the trojan at all. It tells you that it is a trojan before
you even finish the download.
Great process they have. Please get over it. Ihave used Vista without UAC
since I started with it and have yet to get a virus. Why cause I use common
sense and a good Anti-Virus. Get voer it. UAC will not protect you since
they have already posted about ways to get around UAC. Therefor UAC is
nothing anymore.
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