How to send files without openin Outlook

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Guest

I've just upgraded to Outlook 2003 from Outlook Express. Before the upgrade,
I could right click any object and select "mail to" from the context menu.
When I did this, OE used to then send the mail right away (once I'd put the
recipient and any other info into the e-mail). In O 2003 all is the same,
save that the e-mail then sits in Outlook out-box until the next time I open
Outlook, when it gets sent. Is there a way of making Outlook behave like OE
did and send immediately?
thanks
M
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

No. Both programs must be running to function. OE is always running in the
background.
 
G

Guest

Ah - thanks for that... so the splash screen when running it from its icon is
a fake? Also, if it was actually running... then is it still running in the
background now, or has the Outlook installation killed that? What processes
does OE have running all the time?
Thanks
M

Russ Valentine said:
No. Both programs must be running to function. OE is always running in the
background.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
I've just upgraded to Outlook 2003 from Outlook Express. Before the
upgrade,
I could right click any object and select "mail to" from the context menu.
When I did this, OE used to then send the mail right away (once I'd put
the
recipient and any other info into the e-mail). In O 2003 all is the same,
save that the e-mail then sits in Outlook out-box until the next time I
open
Outlook, when it gets sent. Is there a way of making Outlook behave like
OE
did and send immediately?
thanks
M
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

Don't know. I never use OE. You can ask in an OE group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
Ah - thanks for that... so the splash screen when running it from its icon
is
a fake? Also, if it was actually running... then is it still running in
the
background now, or has the Outlook installation killed that? What
processes
does OE have running all the time?
Thanks
M

Russ Valentine said:
No. Both programs must be running to function. OE is always running in
the
background.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
I've just upgraded to Outlook 2003 from Outlook Express. Before the
upgrade,
I could right click any object and select "mail to" from the context
menu.
When I did this, OE used to then send the mail right away (once I'd put
the
recipient and any other info into the e-mail). In O 2003 all is the
same,
save that the e-mail then sits in Outlook out-box until the next time I
open
Outlook, when it gets sent. Is there a way of making Outlook behave
like
OE
did and send immediately?
thanks
M
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

As I understand it OE is a part of IE and thus a part of the operating
system. As such, it keeps some processes running in the background even if
the program hasn't been launched. Apparently its mail transport is one of
those. OE accommodates only one simple mail transport protocol. Outlook on
the other hand must accommodate many different mail transports, many of them
proprietary and complex, such as the client for Exchange Server. It will not
launch any of its mail transports until the program itself is launched.
People migrating from OE to Outlook are frequently surprised that their mail
is not sent in the background like it is with OE. Outlook is primarily a
business app, so most of its users keep it running while they're working
especially if they want their mail sent immediately.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
Thanks Russ - I might just do that. Can I ask, since you don't use OE,
how
do you know it's running all the time? And presumably if it's running all
the time as part of vanilla Xp install, here is the place to ask for
advice
on what happens to it when Outlook is installed and takes precedence as
e-mail client?

Any further thoughts most welcome!

Regards
M

Russ Valentine said:
Don't know. I never use OE. You can ask in an OE group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
Ah - thanks for that... so the splash screen when running it from its
icon
is
a fake? Also, if it was actually running... then is it still running
in
the
background now, or has the Outlook installation killed that? What
processes
does OE have running all the time?
Thanks
M

:

No. Both programs must be running to function. OE is always running in
the
background.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I've just upgraded to Outlook 2003 from Outlook Express. Before the
upgrade,
I could right click any object and select "mail to" from the context
menu.
When I did this, OE used to then send the mail right away (once I'd
put
the
recipient and any other info into the e-mail). In O 2003 all is the
same,
save that the e-mail then sits in Outlook out-box until the next
time I
open
Outlook, when it gets sent. Is there a way of making Outlook behave
like
OE
did and send immediately?
thanks
M
 
G

Guest

Russ - this is great and completely answers my original post. Thanks. I
certainly iuse Outlook at work - it is the only program always running - as
it is also my main filing system. Interesting to note that OE runs in the
background..... but often so does Outlook - closing it often leaves the main
process running - kept active in my case I believe by ActiveSynch... Not the
happiest of marriages....
Regards
M

Russ Valentine said:
As I understand it OE is a part of IE and thus a part of the operating
system. As such, it keeps some processes running in the background even if
the program hasn't been launched. Apparently its mail transport is one of
those. OE accommodates only one simple mail transport protocol. Outlook on
the other hand must accommodate many different mail transports, many of them
proprietary and complex, such as the client for Exchange Server. It will not
launch any of its mail transports until the program itself is launched.
People migrating from OE to Outlook are frequently surprised that their mail
is not sent in the background like it is with OE. Outlook is primarily a
business app, so most of its users keep it running while they're working
especially if they want their mail sent immediately.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
Thanks Russ - I might just do that. Can I ask, since you don't use OE,
how
do you know it's running all the time? And presumably if it's running all
the time as part of vanilla Xp install, here is the place to ask for
advice
on what happens to it when Outlook is installed and takes precedence as
e-mail client?

Any further thoughts most welcome!

Regards
M

Russ Valentine said:
Don't know. I never use OE. You can ask in an OE group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Ah - thanks for that... so the splash screen when running it from its
icon
is
a fake? Also, if it was actually running... then is it still running
in
the
background now, or has the Outlook installation killed that? What
processes
does OE have running all the time?
Thanks
M

:

No. Both programs must be running to function. OE is always running in
the
background.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I've just upgraded to Outlook 2003 from Outlook Express. Before the
upgrade,
I could right click any object and select "mail to" from the context
menu.
When I did this, OE used to then send the mail right away (once I'd
put
the
recipient and any other info into the e-mail). In O 2003 all is the
same,
save that the e-mail then sits in Outlook out-box until the next
time I
open
Outlook, when it gets sent. Is there a way of making Outlook behave
like
OE
did and send immediately?
thanks
M
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

There are a lot of things that will prevent Outlook from closing completely,
but it is not a normal or intentional state of affairs. Some common reasons
why Outlook will not shut down completely when you click either the X or
Exit:

1. PDA synchronization software with your PDA in the cradle.
2. WinFax Pro (especially 10.02 in Outlook 2003) - contact their support
for an alleged fix.
3. Franklin-Cover Plan Plus!
4. Poorly designed COM Add-ins.
5. Mail reminder add-ins that keep a stub of Outlook open in the background
to check for new mail and fire reminders.
6. Anti-virus/firewall programs that are set to scan incoming and outgoing
mail.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
Russ - this is great and completely answers my original post. Thanks. I
certainly iuse Outlook at work - it is the only program always running -
as
it is also my main filing system. Interesting to note that OE runs in the
background..... but often so does Outlook - closing it often leaves the
main
process running - kept active in my case I believe by ActiveSynch... Not
the
happiest of marriages....
Regards
M

Russ Valentine said:
As I understand it OE is a part of IE and thus a part of the operating
system. As such, it keeps some processes running in the background even
if
the program hasn't been launched. Apparently its mail transport is one of
those. OE accommodates only one simple mail transport protocol. Outlook
on
the other hand must accommodate many different mail transports, many of
them
proprietary and complex, such as the client for Exchange Server. It will
not
launch any of its mail transports until the program itself is launched.
People migrating from OE to Outlook are frequently surprised that their
mail
is not sent in the background like it is with OE. Outlook is primarily a
business app, so most of its users keep it running while they're working
especially if they want their mail sent immediately.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Mikek13 said:
Thanks Russ - I might just do that. Can I ask, since you don't use OE,
how
do you know it's running all the time? And presumably if it's running
all
the time as part of vanilla Xp install, here is the place to ask for
advice
on what happens to it when Outlook is installed and takes precedence as
e-mail client?

Any further thoughts most welcome!

Regards
M

:

Don't know. I never use OE. You can ask in an OE group.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Ah - thanks for that... so the splash screen when running it from
its
icon
is
a fake? Also, if it was actually running... then is it still
running
in
the
background now, or has the Outlook installation killed that? What
processes
does OE have running all the time?
Thanks
M

:

No. Both programs must be running to function. OE is always running
in
the
background.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
I've just upgraded to Outlook 2003 from Outlook Express. Before
the
upgrade,
I could right click any object and select "mail to" from the
context
menu.
When I did this, OE used to then send the mail right away (once
I'd
put
the
recipient and any other info into the e-mail). In O 2003 all is
the
same,
save that the e-mail then sits in Outlook out-box until the next
time I
open
Outlook, when it gets sent. Is there a way of making Outlook
behave
like
OE
did and send immediately?
thanks
M
 

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