how to refernce a folder?

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 1/11/2011 10:34 AM, mp wrote: [...]

I have used the Express editions several years ago. So you can't
right-click a project and add a folder? I find that kind of strange.

ah, yes, I can right click the project and get a drop down menu
the closest menu item is Add New Folder
That creates a new, empty folder under the project folder...
That created NewFolder1
So I copied ExcelReader.cs (my dal object) into that folder and renamed it
ExcelReader2.cs
I opened that file and renamed the namespace to ExcelReader2 (to avoid
conflict with the existing one in the bus.obj. project in the businesslayer
main folder)

Then I went back to the business layer project and added the using directive
at the top of the file( Investment.cs - the business object)
using System;
using System.Collections.Generic;
using System.Linq;
using System.Text;
using NewFolder1.ExcelReader2;<<<<< added this here
namespace Investments.BusinessLayer
{

But i get the following compile error
Error 8 The type or namespace name 'NewFolder1' could not be found (are you
missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

...well I thought that *WAS* the using directive...??? sorry i'm confused
again
I can see NewFolder1 in the list of refernces for that project...

You can't use a using statement that uses the namespace pointing to the
folder in the namespace? I don't care what anyone else is talking about.
You are referencing that folder in the namespace as far as I am concerned
so one doesn't have to use the fully qualified path to get to the folder
in code.

I don't want to get too hung up on the folder thing, i don't have so many
files in this project
that i need a heirarchy of folders to divide them up.
but i want to at least get to where I understand exactly what you're
doing...
sorry but the exact steps in the ide to do what you're suggesting may be
required, as so far
i don't seem to have enough understanding of the ide to physically follow
your suggestions yet.

And please never adopt the terminology about referencing folder or similar.

You import namespaces.

You reference assemblies.

Arne

 

[mp]

On 1/11/2011 1:58 PM, mp wrote: []

using Investments.BusinessLayer.Newfolder1 = er;

I get an error at the = sign, saying ; expected

What is so hard about this that you can't put this together and figure it
out?

I don't know, but i'm not smart enuf to figure it out at this point.
Since i don't need extra folders for my current project I'm letting go of
this thread
and going back to trying to get my project doing something useful

Thanks for all your efforts to help me, sorry I just can't get it to work
(the folder part).
mark

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

It is kind of funny that I am making some serious money in doing so,
that is developing solutions using C# and .NET. Anyone can rattle off of
some terminology. But can you get on the firing line and make some
serious money with the technology, and your client's are happy. That is
the only thing that counts and nothing else. It's not about rattling off
some terminology, any monkey can do that.

Possible.

Some managers are pretty easy to bullshit about technology.

But that does not really impress technical people.

Arne

 

[mp]

On 1/11/2011 7:18 PM, mp wrote: [...]

I don't know, but i'm not smart enuf to figure it out at this point.

[...]

using WF = KN.Tiers.Community; /////////////// here

ah ha!
that works, thanks.
mark

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

I don't answer to you or anybody.

Usenet is very free.

It is everybody's privilege to look as silly as they want.

Well since I have been using C# .NET for the last 10 years, in general
programming since 1980, been in IT since 1971 and still going strong, I
say otherwise.

Have you ever noticed that that real experts doesn't seem to
have a need for claiming how good they are?

This NG or any NG in the grand scheme of things means nothing. This NG
is not putting one penny in my pockets.

True.

If you were paid for your advice here, then you would be fired
due to bad advice.

So be glad that you are not.

Any one can pretend and act like he or she is the big cheese in a NG.

Exactly. Anyone can talk about how many years they have worked in IT
and how well paid they are.

You are one of them.

No. Peter never does that.

But guess who do!?!?

Arne

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

So you know a little bit about .NET. I am not impressed. And I don't BS
anyone. I was not brought up that way. It's not all about what one
knows. It is about does one know how to find and look-up information and
apply the information in a given situation or solution.

Then I suggest that you use that skill to lookup some very basic
..NET knowledge and the post corrections to your posts using
the correct terminology.

And maybe even lookup something about software engineering and
post corrections to what is actually considered best practice.

I try to avoid
people like you, because you can't see anything to the left or to the
right. You can only see straight ahead.

Not much luck with that either!?!?

Arne

 

[mp]

[...]

Peter, Arne, BigSteel
I have the highest regard for the knowlege and generosity you all 3
obviously have.
It has been established that there are differences of opinions on exact
terminology.
Since it's partly my fault for starting this thread, I would
humbly request that we all take a breather, shake hands, agree to disagree,
and let this thread end.

I finally have the answer i was asking about, so it's all good. I've learned
a lot.
Can we leave it at that and go back to -in my case asking - and in your
cases answering - practical questions on c#?

Regards,
Mark

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

I have the highest regard for the knowlege and generosity you all 3
obviously have.
It has been established that there are differences of opinions on exact
terminology.
Since it's partly my fault for starting this thread, I would
humbly request that we all take a breather, shake hands, agree to disagree,
and let this thread end.

I finally have the answer i was asking about, so it's all good. I've learned
a lot.
Can we leave it at that and go back to -in my case asking - and in your
cases answering - practical questions on c#?

I don't think anybody has stopped answering questions, so no problem
in that regard.

Using correct terminology is very important in software development
to ensure effective communication, so don't expect various misused
terminology to slip through without comments. Not commenting would
be doing the readers a great disservice.

Similar about best practices on how to structure applications. There
are not much point in a technical forum if the participants does not
try and push better solutions over worse solutions.

Arne

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

Let me tell you something man, you are nobody and don't you ever think
that you are anymore than that.

Don't say that.

If you make him zero, then you will end up negative.

You and this other overbearing lunatic are truly out of control. But you
two have always been that way, particularly that other lunatic.

You both need to go stand in a corner.

You seem to have a mentality very geared towards elementary school.

Here we expect a slightly more adult behavior.

Arne

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

I have talked with you before over in the VB.NET ng on several
occasions. I was using a different nym. You didn't see junk like this in
that ng.

Are you saying that teaching of incorrect terminology does not get
corrected in mpdlv?

That is not good.

Arne

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

There is something wrong you. You need to be locked up.

People that don't think talking about other as being
lunatics is appropriate for mpdlc should be locked up.

Interesting personality you demonstrate!

Arne

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

<snipped I didn't read you babble>

There is someting wrong with you.

Are you sure that it looks smart to conclude something based
on not reading what you reply to??

Arne

 

[James A. Fortune]

You and this other overbearing lunatic are truly out of control. But
you two have always been that way, particularly that other lunatic.

The references in that phrase are so ambiguous that I feel like I'm
taking a Turing Test from an bot app on the Droid . In fact,
except for the first two posts in this thread by Big Steel, which
obviously seem to originate from a real person, Big Steel's responses
have been quite bot-like, quite a change in style from those first two
posts. Maybe fake.com is accurate in an ironic way. The response is
not exactly ad hominem in the literal sense when such generic language
is used, is it?

James A. Fortune
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Arne Vajhøj]

The references in that phrase are so ambiguous that I feel like I'm
taking a Turing Test from an bot app on the Droid . In fact,
except for the first two posts in this thread by Big Steel, which
obviously seem to originate from a real person, Big Steel's responses
have been quite bot-like, quite a change in style from those first two
posts. Maybe fake.com is accurate in an ironic way. The response is
not exactly ad hominem in the literal sense when such generic language
is used, is it?

I think that childish is a better description than bot-like, but
that is obviously subjective.

I definitely don't think it is fake in the sense that he is not
responsible for this posts, because otherwise there would have
been a "hey - that is not me" post from him.

Arne

 

[James A. Fortune]

I think that childish is a better description than bot-like, but
that is obviously subjective.

I definitely don't think it is fake in the sense that he is not
responsible for this posts, because otherwise there would have
been a "hey - that is not me" post from him.

Arne

I agree that 'Big Steel' is quite aware of what is happening and is
responsible. I didn't mean to suggest that the bot-like response
originated from someone else. Fake.com is meant to emphasize that the
post is anonymous. By 'accurate in an ironic way,' I meant that it
might be one step more anonymous than we might realize at first. A
bot-like response referring to two posters suggests the possibility
that an auto-generated response can be modified by an attribute or by
a condition inferred from the thread. But my bot theory is, as you
say, my subjective opinion, offered without any proof. I simply
wanted people to consider the possibility that some of the responses
were auto-generated. But a bot-like response doesn't have to be
childish, so your observation that the responses are childish is also
worthy of note. Perhaps the childish tone or 'Posted with a Droid'
are simply meant to be distractions for those who are only mildly
suspicious. Mixing real posts along with bot posts seems to be
possibly yet another way of masking bot usage that goes beyond
traditional uses of bots. To me, some kind of bot usage is the
simplest explanation for such a precipitous change of posting style.
With all due respect, your theory that bathos is involved (i.e.,
bathos is the only term I can think of for going from a human-like
response all the way to a childish, bot-like response in the span of a
single posting) is possible, but I find it less likely, in spite of
the sometimes mercurial nature of human emotions.

James A. Fortune
(e-mail address removed)

 

[James A. Fortune]

On Sat, 15 Jan 2011 17:00:16 -0800 (PST), "James A. Fortune"


<yawn>

LOL! That's too humorous to be done by a bot without assistance.

James A. Fortune
(e-mail address removed)