How to record jpg files on a data cd

[Richard]

Hi All,

I use Roxio 7 for buring CDs and DVDs. However, it created unreadable
CDs when I tried to include .jpg files from my camera. So I wonder:

Does XP/SP2 support recording image jpgs on a data CD?

If so, how can I invoke XP's CD Writer? When I put in a blank CD,
Roxio comes up to support writing to it.

Regards,
Richard

 

[David Candy]

R/c the drive in My Computer, Properties, CD Burning. Then R/C your files and Send To - CD. Make sure you use Windows if there is a Roxio CD there as well.

 

[Richard]

Hi David,

Worked great! Many thanks.

It's funny: despite my 10-15 years of programming in the Eindows
environment, my mind drew a blank when I looked at your "R/c"
abbreviation, but I thought I'd figure it out when I got to the icon.
Of course, I automatically right-clicked it, at which point your
intention penetrated my dense mind.

Best wishes,
Richard

 

[DanS]

Hi All,

I use Roxio 7 for buring CDs and DVDs. However, it created unreadable
CDs when I tried to include .jpg files from my camera. So I wonder:

Does XP/SP2 support recording image jpgs on a data CD?

If so, how can I invoke XP's CD Writer? When I put in a blank CD,
Roxio comes up to support writing to it.

Regards,
Richard

There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to put a .jpg on a CD using
Roxio.

I would never even think about using M$ lame attempt at supporting CD
writing.

 

[David Candy]

Too hard for you to understand, eh.

 

[DanS]

Too hard for you to understand, eh.

No. Too simplistic and feature lacking.

 

[David Candy]

So it can't make music CD and Data CDs, it's sole purpose. Have you seen programs like Nero? Windows CD Burning would have been sent to usability and tested.

 

[Richard]

Gentlemen,

Getting into a p***ing contest does nothing to enhance my education.


I loved the old CD writer that Roxio bought and "improved".
Nevertheless, I've used Roxio versions 4, 6 and 7 for a good while
with satisfactory results, mainly for backup. I'm confident that some
of the directories I've backed up have had jpeg's (though perhaps not
image jpegs).

This time, however, I explicitly dnd'd a half dozen image jpegs to
Roxio 7's desktop icon. But when I ejected the CD and carried it to
some offsite WinXP machines, none of them could read it. When I
checked it on the machine I used to write it, it failed also.

I tried writing another CD with the same data under Roxio. Same
failure when I checked the CD.

So Dan, when you say "There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to
put a .jpg on a CD using Roxio", what does that mean in light of my
experience.

I followed David's advice and figured out how to write my jpegs with
Windows Media Player. It worked painlessly, with better esthetics
than Roxio, IMHO.

Again, Dan, when you say "I would never even think about using M$ lame
attempt at supporting CD writing", what does that mean in light of my
experience?

I am not being snide when I ask those questions. I want to know if you
perceive something foolish in my experience that I should be aware of.

Regards,
Richard

 

[David Candy]

Yes it does. MS spent lots of cash testing what you want from Burning and how you want to do it.

When people like Dan make ignorant comments they need to be countered else they become "truth".

 

[DanS]

Yes it does. MS spent lots of cash testing what you want from Burning
and how you want to do it.

When people like Dan make ignorant comments they need to be countered
else they become "truth".

Sorry David, you are the ignorant one.

I use Nero, just about from day 1. Instead of helping the man figure out
why Roxio is giving him a problem, you offer a work-around, which doesn't
solve his problem anyway.... why won't Roxio burn the .jpg's properly.

And M$ testing, don't get me started, other than to say you must be one of
those people that let M$ make all of your decision's for you because _they_
know what is best for everyone.

Now read my post replying to Richard and see if _I_ solved his problem.

 

[DanS]

Gentlemen,

Getting into a p***ing contest does nothing to enhance my education.


I loved the old CD writer that Roxio bought and "improved".
Nevertheless, I've used Roxio versions 4, 6 and 7 for a good while
with satisfactory results, mainly for backup. I'm confident that some
of the directories I've backed up have had jpeg's (though perhaps not
image jpegs).

This time, however, I explicitly dnd'd a half dozen image jpegs to
Roxio 7's desktop icon. But when I ejected the CD and carried it to
some offsite WinXP machines, none of them could read it. When I
checked it on the machine I used to write it, it failed also.

I tried writing another CD with the same data under Roxio. Same
failure when I checked the CD.

So Dan, when you say "There is no reason why you shouldn't be able to
put a .jpg on a CD using Roxio", what does that mean in light of my
experience.
Nothing.


I followed David's advice and figured out how to write my jpegs with
Windows Media Player. It worked painlessly, with better esthetics
than Roxio, IMHO.

Again, Dan, when you say "I would never even think about using M$ lame
attempt at supporting CD writing", what does that mean in light of my
experience?

Nothing, you are to choose whatever you want to burn CD's, and I am free
to state my opinions of any M$ product, or anyone's product.

I am not being snide when I ask those questions. I want to know if you
perceive something foolish in my experience that I should be aware of.

I perceive nothing and do not think you are being snide at all. And from
what I remeber, someone here once told me that David Candy can offer some
good advice sometimes, but most of the time he is the group idiot, coming
across as he is all-knowing, you know, like the trash-heap from Fraggle
Rock.

So if you want a POSSIBLE solution, keep reading below.

Regards,
Richard

OK Richard, had to get all that out of the way.

This link at the Roxio webpage, http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/000010CR ,
describes a problem with v8 of EMC.

This COULD possibly apply to what you are seeing, and looks even more
promising when I re-read your post where you indicated that these were
..jpg's from your camera.

There's a hotfix for it there, but like I said, that pertain to v8.
Apparently, the EXIF metadata in the jpg may not be formatted correctly,
or more precisely, the way Roxio expects it to be. This could be data
such as the time/date of the picture.

(Keep in mind I don't have much experience in graphics formats) To see if
this applies to your v7 also, I would take one/several of those jpeg's
and open them in a image editor (Paint Shop Pro ?, PhotoShop ?) that will
allow you to re-save it without the EXiF data, strip it right out of the
jpeg. Then see if they will burn.

If so, I would then contact Roxio and see if this was a possible issue
with v7 also.

Regards,

DanS

 

[David Candy]

How would internals contents of a file affect whether it burns or not. If you read the KB you quoted it makes no such claim.

His questions were specifically

Does XP/SP2 support recording image jpgs on a data CD?

If so, how can I invoke XP's CD Writer? When I put in a blank CD,

Roxio comes up to support writing to it.

Now explain how I didn't answer his question.

 

[David Candy]

Because I chastise people that don't report error messages because they are too stupid, that expect essays because they are too lazy to say what they are doing and expect instead of them typing 50 words someone else to type 3000 words explaining every possible configuration, and of course people that don't read what is written.

 

[Mike Fields]

Sorry David, you are the ignorant one.

I use Nero, just about from day 1. Instead of helping the man figure
out
why Roxio is giving him a problem, you offer a work-around, which
doesn't
solve his problem anyway.... why won't Roxio burn the .jpg's properly.

While I don't want to join a "contest", I would like to make
a comment that has helped me. I also use NERO and one
of the features it has that I never found in Roxio (Adaptec)
was on the burn dialog box where I could check the "verify
after burn" -- it has proved very interesting. If I use cheap
media (the TDK "data" ones from a couple of years ago
come to mind), the burn completes, but during the verify
where it reads the disk back, it starts hunting and changing
the speed of the drive attempting to read the data. Often
fails (and looking at the disk you can see where the bad area
is). With good media (Japan Fuji etc.), the verify happens
at the full drive speed with no changes. It has saved me a
number of times were I need to know the disk was written
correctly.

mikey

 

[DanS]

While I don't want to join a "contest", I would like to make
a comment that has helped me. I also use NERO and one
of the features it has that I never found in Roxio (Adaptec)
was on the burn dialog box where I could check the "verify
after burn" -- it has proved very interesting. If I use cheap
media (the TDK "data" ones from a couple of years ago
come to mind), the burn completes, but during the verify
where it reads the disk back, it starts hunting and changing
the speed of the drive attempting to read the data. Often
fails (and looking at the disk you can see where the bad area
is). With good media (Japan Fuji etc.), the verify happens
at the full drive speed with no changes. It has saved me a
number of times were I need to know the disk was written
correctly.

mikey

Hi Mikey,

Funny that you bring that feature up. I use v5.whatever of Nero and that
option exists in v5 also.

I always verify when I make a compilation, but that option doesn't appear
when you burn an image.

Do have a later version ? If so, is it available in the image burn also ?

DanS

 

[Mike Fields]

Hi Mikey,

Funny that you bring that feature up. I use v5.whatever of Nero and
that
option exists in v5 also.

I always verify when I make a compilation, but that option doesn't
appear
when you burn an image.

Do have a later version ? If so, is it available in the image burn
also ?

DanS

Actually, you are right -- a data compilation does give you that
option, but if you are playing with image, it is not there (I had
forgotten that). I also use the latest version of 5. Usually where
I am concerned about making sure all the bits are there is with
data CD or DVD's with system backups on them (for obvious
reasons). I wonder why that option is not there in the image
burns ?? I use the Japanese Fuji CD-R and TY DVD-R
media and have not had any problems with them (using various
recorders).

mikey

 

[Richard]

Hi Dan,

OK Richard, had to get all that out of the way.

No problem

This link at the Roxio webpage, http://kb.roxio.com/content/kb/000010CR, describes a problem with v8 of EMC.

Good to know; thanks.

Apparently, the EXIF metadata in the jpg may not be formatted correctly, or more precisely, the way Roxio expects it to be. This could be data such as the time/date of the picture.

Something like that seems very plausible, based on my subsequent
experience.

... I would take one/several of those jpeg's and open them in a image editor (Paint Shop Pro ?, PhotoShop ?) that will allow you to re-save it without the EXiF data, strip it right out of the jpeg. Then see if they will burn.

I resaved the images out of PaintShopPro and Roxio wrote them with no
problem. And I could read the fine on my machine.

A little more data: The other day, I wrote the camera images using
Widows CD Writer and the CD gotten written fine and played back OK on
my machine. But when I tried to open those jpegs on my daughter's
WinME machine, the CD directory was readable but it barfed on the
jpegs.

That leads me to conclude that assessment was essentially correct and
your work-around was perfect, although I've still got to check out my
Windows-written and Roxio-written set of PSP-sanitized images on a
foreign machine. I'll post a final word when I do that.

Again, thank you very much for taking the time to analyze the problem
and come up with a solution.

Regards,
Richard

 

[Richard]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your input. I'm going to check Nero based on your comments
and the fact that I don't like Roxio's interface.

I think I did get around my Roxio problem based and DanS' advice in
post #14 or #15 on this thread. I reported my results in the my Apr.
17 or 18 post.

Regards,
Richard

 

[David Candy]

Nero has the world's worse user interface of any program. I've found early versions of 5 work best in XP - esp the version that claims it's not compatible with XP. That one causes no problems unlike compatible versions.

 

[Richard]

Hi David,

Nero has the world's worse user interface of any program. I've found early versions of 5 work best in XP - esp the version that claims it's not compatible with XP. That one causes no problems unlike compatible versions.

Thanks for the input. I've got a friend with a computer store. I can
probably get ver. 5 from him, though I'm not in a rush now. I think
my total problem is solved at the moment: Load my camera's output to
Paint Shop Pro and save the image to a different directory or under a
different name, maybe even back under the same name.

Roxio 7 seems to record the "sanitized" versions correctly. I'll have
final confirmation of that in a few days (when I've got time to test my
new CD on someone elses computer.)

What in your judgement is the best CD/DVD writer on the market?

Regards,
Richard