Ken Blake, MVP shared these words of wisdom:
Thanks for your kind reply, Blake.
Although it's getting to the state of TOT, just a few additional
thoughts (in order to make myself understood):
That's fine. I'm not trying to tell you or anyone else what to do,
just explaining why others (me, for example, and presumably also
Rock) prefer to do it differently from your way.
Yes, that's how I understood you.
And I did not have wanted to make Rock his way of working. I had only
been wondering why he did not make use of the threaded view
But I don't understand that statement at all. It conflicts with
what you said previously: "threads and to have the whole of a
thread available "at your fingertip. Why don't just switch the
view?" If your Outlook Express view is "Show All Messages," then
you *do* view already-read messages.
No, no contradiction at all IMO.
As said my standard view is threaded view with collapsed threads.
So there is only one line per thread.
And threads with unread posting are shown bold.
But I can easily expand each thread with 1 mouse-click.
And can just jump over all threads which have only read postings by
using the "next unread subject" or "next unread message" and by this
arrive directly at a thread which might need attention.
And its two mouse-clicks to activate "Hide read messages" (view-menu).
And in addition I have a filter for marked threads (shown in red) and
my own postings (automatically marked and colored in green). So
We use the same newsreader (different versions, but essentially the
same).
Nice to see. Although most pros do despise OE, I did stay with it.
Tried out Forte and Gravity and some others but in the end I staid
with OE (BTW: the same for mail. I never liked Outlook and I could not
yet make my peace with it, not even with the new 2007 version.
Although I do not like it [still weeping after my beloved Lotus
Organizer] I use it for calendar and contacts because otherwise
synching with my iPAQ would not work. But for mail I use it only for
some special things and my working tool is OE with IMAP).
If you do not "hide read stuff," it remains there on view, and you
obviously have many more messages on view than I do.
I don't think so. With trees collapsed it's just the headlines.
Yes the
already-read and the unread messages are marked differently, and
it's possible to tell the difference between them. However, it
would take me much*longer to scroll through a long list of
messages, look at the headers, and stop only when is message isn't
marked as read.
As said above: no need to scroll through. Just jumping to items which
are deeper down.
When I read newsgroup messages, I have only unread messages on
view. I scroll down through them, hardly glancing at the headers,
quickly reading the text of each to see which messages I can help
with and want to answer. If I had to do it your way, it would take
me *much* longer--perhaps twice as long. I know--I've tried it your
way, and it doesn't work for me.
I fully accept this.
In many long years of most intensive work in NGs I arrived at
different results ;-)
And I just keep everything locally until it's scrolled from the
board (too soon with the MS NGs [siiiigh]).
And so it's pretty easy to see what's new and it's just one
mouse-click to navigate to the next thread with an unread/new
posting.
Easy, but much slower.
As said, not really when using filtered views
I will very occasionally do this, but it often doesn't work for me,
since I not only hide already-read messages, but also, as I said,
delete them every few days. As I also said, I always have
googlegroups to fall back on, when necessary.
I for one don't like the webinterfaces at all- neither the one MS has
introduced, nor Google's groups.
So I keep everything as an archive locally (could be that I inherited
It has nothing to do with being an MVP,
I think it has to with it in so far as MVPs are pros in
e-communications and not just casual users.
as far as I'm concerned. We
can all do things differently, and what works well for one of us
doesn't have to be what's best for the other.
!00% d'accord.
My way is best for me, not because I'm an MVP,
which is bearing a really heavy workload with communicating in quite a
number of groups ..
but because I've tried it different
ways, and this is what suits me best. Your way isn't worse than
mine, and even if you're not an MVP, if it works for you, I don't
want to try to talk you out of it.
The same vice versa.
That I did reply again here was just meant to explain my way of think
to make myself understood.
Too bad.
Would you perhaps know where else I could ask to reach some people who
would be knowledgeable on WDS and what installing the does to a
system???
Some of the Office NGs?
The Office 2007 beta forums (as WDS is a part needed for OL 2007 too)?
Or would you perhaps know someone of the MVP colleagues or someone
from the Office 2007 teams?
I'm really desperate.
As I had installed WDS because of OneNote 2007 during the beta I asked
in the ON NG too. To no avail so far.
And I asked in the German XP NGs too. Just one reply with the
suggestion to re-install under a different user with admin privs
and/or try the "Windows CleanUp" tool; the latter does not even show
WDS on its list ...
Thanks again fro sharing your thoughts
Rainald
