how to prevent hibernate during download


M

Maurice

Hello:
using win xp sp3, I've programmed the power options to go to hibernate after
10 min (of inactivity), but I noticed later, that system goes to hibernate
even there is a download running, downloading a file is not an activity? is
there any trick to overcome?

thank you
Maurice
 
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J

Jose

Hello:
using win xp sp3, I've programmed the power options to go to hibernate after
10 min (of inactivity), but I noticed later, that system goes to hibernate
even there is a download running, downloading a file is not an activity? is
there any trick to overcome?

thank you
Maurice

XP decides whether or not to hibernate (when the time rolls around)
based on CPU usage.

If you set your timer for 10 minutes and there is no activity that
generates at least 10% CPU usage, the system will hibernate.

If you set your timer for 10 minutes and there is an activity that
DOES generate at least 10% CPU usage, the 10 minute timer would get
reset (the 10 minutes countdown starts over).

If your downloading does not generate the needed 10% CPU activity and
your system hibernates, then it sounds like XP is working as designed,
but perhaps not as desired.

Tell your download program to do something to generate at least 10%
CPU activity at least every my_hibernate_time-1 minutes.

How are you doing this downloading? Maybe somebody knows the trick
for your method.
 
V

VanguardLH

Maurice said:
Hello:
using win xp sp3, I've programmed the power options to go to hibernate after
10 min (of inactivity), but I noticed later, that system goes to hibernate
even there is a download running, downloading a file is not an activity? is
there any trick to overcome?

thank you
Maurice

First answer why you are hibernating (powering down) your host after
only 10 minutes of inactivity. Why not put the host into standby power
mode first and then go into hibernate mode somewhere like an hour or
several hours later? Why would you want to keep power cycling your host
every 10 minutes?
 
M

Maurice

Hello:
using win xp sp3, I've programmed the power options to go to hibernate
after
10 min (of inactivity), but I noticed later, that system goes to hibernate
even there is a download running, downloading a file is not an activity?
is
there any trick to overcome?

thank you
Maurice

XP decides whether or not to hibernate (when the time rolls around)
based on CPU usage.

If you set your timer for 10 minutes and there is no activity that
generates at least 10% CPU usage, the system will hibernate.

If you set your timer for 10 minutes and there is an activity that
DOES generate at least 10% CPU usage, the 10 minute timer would get
reset (the 10 minutes countdown starts over).

If your downloading does not generate the needed 10% CPU activity and
your system hibernates, then it sounds like XP is working as designed,
but perhaps not as desired.

Tell your download program to do something to generate at least 10%
CPU activity at least every my_hibernate_time-1 minutes.

How are you doing this downloading? Maybe somebody knows the trick
for your method.



I download normally from FireFox.
 
M

Maurice

VanguardLH said:
First answer why you are hibernating (powering down) your host after
only 10 minutes of inactivity. Why not put the host into standby power
mode first and then go into hibernate mode somewhere like an hour or
several hours later? Why would you want to keep power cycling your host
every 10 minutes?

do you mean that when downloading system won't go to standby, in such a
case, this could works for me.
Thank you
 
J

Jose

XP decides whether or not to hibernate (when the time rolls around)
based on CPU usage.

If you set your timer for 10 minutes and there is no activity that
generates at least 10% CPU usage, the system will hibernate.

If you set your timer for 10 minutes and there is an activity that
DOES generate at least 10% CPU usage, the 10 minute timer would get
reset (the 10 minutes countdown starts over).

If your downloading does not generate the needed 10% CPU activity and
your system hibernates, then it sounds like XP is working as designed,
but perhaps not as desired.

Tell your download program to do something to generate at least 10%
CPU activity at least every my_hibernate_time-1 minutes.

How are you doing this downloading?  Maybe somebody knows the trick
for your method.

I download normally from FireFox.

In that case, perhaps this Add-On for Firefox will be of use:

http://lifehacker.com/5369267/auto-shutdown-lets-you-schedule-tasks-upon-download-completion
 
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B

Billns

Hello:
using win xp sp3, I've programmed the power options to go to hibernate after
10 min (of inactivity), but I noticed later, that system goes to hibernate
even there is a download running, downloading a file is not an activity? is
there any trick to overcome?

thank you
Maurice
Easiest answer: turn off hibernation
Next easiest: set hibernation to one hour or more
My approach: Don't use hibernation; turn off computer after finished.

Bill
 
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V

VanguardLH

Maurice said:
do you mean that when downloading system won't go to standby, in such a
case, this could works for me.
Thank you

Standby mode leaves your computer running but at reduced power.
Hibernation mode powers down your host. Also, hibernation will force a
disconnection from other devices since, after all, you are powering off
your computer. Separate of the download issue, I can't see why you
would want to power down your host after just 10 minutes of idleness.

Generating network traffic is not caused for resetting the idle timer.
You could, for example, simply be running a ping or monitor program but
that doesn't provide sufficient cause to obviate initiating a low-power
mode (standby or hibernate). Windows isn't going to know that network
traffic is for a download, e-mail polling, monitoring status of other
hosts, or what. Web sites can refresh their content, too, but do you
want your host to be held hostage to a constantly updating web site that
prevents your host to power down just because some network traffic got
generated? Just because a light bulb is lit in a room of a house
doesn't mean there is someone in that room or, if there is, that they
actually are currently using that lit light bulb.

YOU are telling your computer to power off every 10 minutes by going
into hibernation mode. It will attempt to comply by pausing any
currently running programs so that it can copy the system memory into a
file and then power down your host. Pausing your web browser is easy
but obviously means you disconnect from any network traffic you were
generating with it. Unless you use a download manager with a resume
feature (and the file server also supports the resume feature), the web
browser simply disconnects and you lose your entire download. Of
course, even with a resume feature, the download manager will also get
paused so your download stop and nothing gets download until you power
up your host the next time and reload that download manager to resume
the pending download.

You specified that your computer goes into hibernation after only 10
minutes. That means applications get suspended so memory doesn't change
and it can get copied into a file and your computer powers off. Well,
you know if you exit the web browser (or any of its child processes,
like the download process) that you lose your connection and you lose
the entire download. Well, you're powering OFF your host every 10
minutes which means the web browser is obviously not running.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_mode
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernation_(computing)
 

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