How to move XP boot drive from IDE to SATA hd ?

R

RJK

I currently have 2 IDE (master and slave) hd's on IDE port 1
(XP boot drive on C:\ ...first partition on hd0)
I have 2 SATA150 connectors on my board, so if I fit 2 SATA hd's, is it
possible to mirror my XP installation onto a SATA hd, ...and make it the
boot drive of course ?

TIA,

regards, Richard

ps never had much to do with SATA hd's, I've deduced that I can buy SATAII
hd's and "jumper" them backwards to 150. that would come in handy if I ever
fit a board that supports SATAII.
Not insterested in RAID, not supported on my board anyway, just want to
roughly replicate my IDe drives storage layout but, get some transfer speed
back.
 
D

DL

Yes, but the exact procedure depends on your mobo/sata controler

ie You use the utility supplied from the hd manufactureres site to clone the
installation, or a third party utility, eg Ghost, True Image.
But where you go from there depends as to whether you have to amend bios
settings to boot from sata, or set the sata drive as jbod, or install
drivers via F6 option.
You need to read the mobo manual.
 
P

Pegasus \(MVP\)

RJK said:
I currently have 2 IDE (master and slave) hd's on IDE port 1
(XP boot drive on C:\ ...first partition on hd0)
I have 2 SATA150 connectors on my board, so if I fit 2 SATA hd's, is it
possible to mirror my XP installation onto a SATA hd, ...and make it the
boot drive of course ?

TIA,

regards, Richard

ps never had much to do with SATA hd's, I've deduced that I can buy SATAII
hd's and "jumper" them backwards to 150. that would come in handy if I
ever fit a board that supports SATAII.
Not insterested in RAID, not supported on my board anyway, just want to
roughly replicate my IDe drives storage layout but, get some transfer
speed back.

Further to DL's suggestions: You could also try this:
- Format the SATA disk under WinXP.
- Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
- Use this command to copy the IDE disk to the SATA disk:
xcopy /s /e /c /d /o /y /h /r /k C:\ D:\
(assuming that C: is your IDE and D: your SATA disk.

Your success depends on the Bart PE boot CD recognising
the SATA disk. If it does not then you can do the same thing
in a two-step process:

1. While under a Bart PE boot, use xcopy as above to copy
drive C: to a parking area, e.g. a different partition or a
spare IDE disk.
2. While running WinXP, use xcopy to copy the stuff from the
parking are to the SATA disk.

As DL said, you must tell your BIOS to boot off the SATA disk
and perhaps supply a suitable SATA driver. Make sure to
disconnect the IDE disk on the first SATA boot!
 
L

Lil' Dave

This is how I addressed some issues that came up on a PC with similar. And,
some failing I ran into.

As I input before on another thread, he'll lose at least one ide controller
use if using map SATA as ide option in the bios. On some PCs with the
original SATA, that's the only way the SATA can be configured to boot.
Unless, with some forms of SATA, only the raid version can be used if 98/ME
are dual booted in the process. In that case, and no raid available, the
map to ide must be used.

What worked for me was to enable the SATA controller with nothing connected.
Boot to XP/ME/98 so all could see the SATA controller. XP added the
controller, ME/98 required a driver that I installed.

Next, I imaged XP installation to a firewire hard drive with Drive Image
7.0, and ME/98 partitions as well.

Then, I removed the boot ide hard drive off the primary ide controller.
Nothing else on that ide controller.

Then, I added the SATA drive. Bios configured the SATA controller to map to
ide. The SATA drive was configured as primary master in the bios setup.

Note: the primary ide controller must be left enabled in the bios setup.

After saving the bios changes, rebooting, the SATA drive was noted as master
on the primary ide in the bios summary.

Inserting the DI 7.0 CD and powered up the firewire connected hard drive
with the images previously noted. Restored all the images to the SATA. XP,
ME and 98 all booted fine. All noted some hardware changes, but worked
fine.

Stuff that didn't work for me. Casper couldn't copy to same SATA make/model
hard drive. Didn't like my boot manager, system commander. The conditions
were - both SATAs configured as ide on the primary controller. One master,
one slave. True Image just managed to make a mess. Whether copying drive
to drive, or restoring a previous image of the ide hard drive. In either
case, boot manager never showed up in boot process. Using a boot floppy to
select which partition to boot resulted in 98/ME stopping at ifshlp AND XP
indicating missing hal.dll. A repair install of XP (on the True Image
restoration) stated there was a non-standard partition used where XP was
currently located and could not fix it.

My conclusions. Newer is not better regarding imaging or cloning software.
Jeez, just copy it/restore it and shut up.
Dave
 
R

RJK

.... thank you :)

regards, Richard


Pegasus (MVP) said:
Further to DL's suggestions: You could also try this:
- Format the SATA disk under WinXP.
- Boot the machine with a Bart PE boot CD.
- Use this command to copy the IDE disk to the SATA disk:
xcopy /s /e /c /d /o /y /h /r /k C:\ D:\
(assuming that C: is your IDE and D: your SATA disk.

Your success depends on the Bart PE boot CD recognising
the SATA disk. If it does not then you can do the same thing
in a two-step process:

1. While under a Bart PE boot, use xcopy as above to copy
drive C: to a parking area, e.g. a different partition or a
spare IDE disk.
2. While running WinXP, use xcopy to copy the stuff from the
parking are to the SATA disk.

As DL said, you must tell your BIOS to boot off the SATA disk
and perhaps supply a suitable SATA driver. Make sure to
disconnect the IDE disk on the first SATA boot!
 

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