How to invoke flash utility

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titus12

Repost: Need answer as soon as polssible.

How would I Invoke the flash utility again? I used the correct version. I
did it wrong when I flashed it.

Thank you,
David
I flash the bios in another computer and all I get are beeps. If I take
out the CMOS battery and leave it out for two hours, will that work so I
can fix it?

Thank you,
David


If you actually flashed the BIOS with a wrong version or unsuccessfully, no,
taking the battery out won't have the effect you want.

Flash memory doesn't rely on battery power to maintain storage, so rhe wrong
or incomplete / corrupt BIOS will still be in place.

You would have to invoke the flash utility again with the correct version,
perhaps the original, which you take from the board manufacturer's website.

Resetting the CMOS settings by taking the battery out only affects user
settings, not the BIOS itself.

HTH
-pk
 
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smlunatick

Repost:  Need answer as soon as polssible.

How would I Invoke the flash utility again?  I used the correct version. I
did it wrong when I flashed it.

Thank you,
David



If you actually flashed the BIOS with a wrong version or unsuccessfully, no,
taking the battery out won't have the effect you want.

Flash memory doesn't rely on battery power to maintain storage, so rhe wrong
or incomplete / corrupt BIOS will still be in place.

You would have to invoke the flash utility again with the correct version,
perhaps the original,  which you take from the board manufacturer's website.

Resetting the CMOS settings by taking the battery out only affects user
settings, not the BIOS itself.

HTH
-pk

Please note the BIOS flashing is etremely "unforgiving", usually.
Without posting the details on why you are saying how it "failed," it
would be "iresponable" to recommend to do a second flashing. Several
motherboards can not recover from a bad / failed flash. You must look
at the motherboard's manufacturer so as to see what is the recovery
method fro failed flashes. Most could state they have none but there
is always the possibility of fixing this. I foud several web site
where you can "buy" replacement BIOS / CMOS chip, providing your
motherboard has it in a socket and not soldered onto the motherbaord.
 
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Bill in Co.

smlunatick said:
Please note the BIOS flashing is etremely "unforgiving", usually.
Without posting the details on why you are saying how it "failed," it
would be "iresponable" to recommend to do a second flashing. Several
motherboards can not recover from a bad / failed flash. You must look
at the motherboard's manufacturer so as to see what is the recovery
method fro failed flashes. Most could state they have none but there
is always the possibility of fixing this. I foud several web site
where you can "buy" replacement BIOS / CMOS chip, providing your
motherboard has it in a socket and not soldered onto the motherbaord.

I am curious as to which (if any) computers even have MB's with socketed
BIOS's.
 
P

Patrick Keenan

titus12 said:
Repost: Need answer as soon as polssible.

How would I Invoke the flash utility again? I used the correct version.
I did it wrong when I flashed it.

Thank you,
David

You invoke it the way that you invoked it in the first place, which is often
from a bootable diskette. If the system doesn't have a diskette drive, you
could probably use a USB floppy disk.

You haven't given any details as to what the board is, so there's no way to
give precise details; however, directions will be included with the BIOS
flash utility and on the board manufacturer's support page.

For examples, for the ASUS flash utility, directions are here:
http://support.asus.com/technicaldocuments/technicaldocuments_content.aspx?no=541&SLanguage=en-us

For MSI boards the directions are here:
http://www.msicomputer.com/support/BIOS_AMI.asp

And for Gigabyte boards look here:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/HowToReflashBIOS.aspx

BIOS flashing is risky, and if it doesn't work, you may have to send it
back.


HTH
-pk
 
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titus12

The motherboard is a ECS K7S5A Pro

Patrick Keenan said:
You invoke it the way that you invoked it in the first place, which is
often from a bootable diskette. If the system doesn't have a diskette
drive, you could probably use a USB floppy disk.

You haven't given any details as to what the board is, so there's no way
to give precise details; however, directions will be included with the
BIOS flash utility and on the board manufacturer's support page.

For examples, for the ASUS flash utility, directions are here:
http://support.asus.com/technicaldocuments/technicaldocuments_content.aspx?no=541&SLanguage=en-us

For MSI boards the directions are here:
http://www.msicomputer.com/support/BIOS_AMI.asp

And for Gigabyte boards look here:
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/HowToReflashBIOS.aspx

BIOS flashing is risky, and if it doesn't work, you may have to send it
back.


HTH
-pk
 
V

VanguardLH

titus12 said:
Repost: Need answer as soon as polssible.

How would I Invoke the flash utility again? I used the correct version. I
did it wrong when I flashed it.

You can't remember how you did it before? And tell us how you did it
before?

How many threads were you planning to start regarding this same problem?
Is this the same computer you've been working on since Oct 2007? From
your other disconnected posts and this one, it is now time to take the
PC to the shop and have them repair it.
 
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Robert Moir

-- I second what smlunatick said. It might not be what you wanted to hear
but it's good advice.



Please note the BIOS flashing is etremely "unforgiving", usually.
Without posting the details on why you are saying how it "failed," it
would be "iresponable" to recommend to do a second flashing. Several
motherboards can not recover from a bad / failed flash. You must look
at the motherboard's manufacturer so as to see what is the recovery
method fro failed flashes. Most could state they have none but there
is always the possibility of fixing this. I foud several web site
where you can "buy" replacement BIOS / CMOS chip, providing your
motherboard has it in a socket and not soldered onto the motherbaord.
 
P

Patrick Keenan

titus12 said:
The motherboard is a ECS K7S5A Pro

Then you have all the information you need to figure it out.

If you can't, it's time to take it for service by someone competent.

HTH
-pk
 
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smlunatick

I am curious as to which (if any) computers even have MB's with socketed
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I located this web site and it shows a pinPLCC and a DIP style chips.
These do require some type of "socket" don't they? More newr
motherboard now seem to have the BIOS chips soldered directly onto the
board.

http://www.biosman.com/id_bios.html
 
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Bill in Co.

And if that doesn't work, he could always try reflashing an earlier version
of the same BIOS (although its probably unlikely that would work either).
I located this web site and it shows a pinPLCC and a DIP style chips.
These do require some type of "socket" don't they?

OR they can be directly soldered into the MB. The socket is optional.

Presumably the reason they often don't use IC sockets is to save cost.
The downside is if you flash it and it goes bad, you'll need to get a new MB
(unless you are willing and able to unsolder the BIOS chip and resolder a
new one back in its place, assuming you can even get one).
 
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smlunatick

And if that doesn't work, he could always try reflashing an earlier version
of the same BIOS (although its probably unlikely that would work either).







OR they can be directly soldered into the MB.   The socket is optional.

Presumably the reason they often don't use IC sockets is to save cost.
The downside is if you flash it and it goes bad, you'll need to get a new MB
(unless you are willing and able to unsolder the BIOS chip and resolder a
new one back in its place, assuming you can even get one).





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You should also not that several BIOSes do not permit the flashing of
an older version. (You might be able to re-flash the older version is
"hacking" the BIOS flashing tools to remove the "downgrade" block.)
 

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