How to control dual Boot remotely?

A

Alex

I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN. Two of these systems are
in a remote location and I am able to start up & shut them down remotely.



One of these remote computers is dual boot system with Windows XP Pro and
Server 2003. Windows XP is the default configuration. If I'm sitting in
front of this computer, I can easily select which OS to boot. However, what
I like to do is control the boot up sequence remotely.



Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the PC is it's easy
to select which OS to boot:



During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The first line is
selected by default so if you take no action, it will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely. I've tried to
change the boot sequence (remotely) through the System Advance menu but it
seems to have a problem with those screen menus.





Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server 2003"
/NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT



Any suggestions greatly appreciated
 
M

Mark Dormer

Alex said:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN. Two of these systems are
in a remote location and I am able to start up & shut them down remotely.



One of these remote computers is dual boot system with Windows XP Pro and
Server 2003. Windows XP is the default configuration. If I'm sitting in
front of this computer, I can easily select which OS to boot. However, what
I like to do is control the boot up sequence remotely.



Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the PC is it's easy
to select which OS to boot:



During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The first line is
selected by default so if you take no action, it will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely. I've tried to
change the boot sequence (remotely) through the System Advance menu but it
seems to have a problem with those screen menus.





Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server 2003"
/NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT



Any suggestions greatly appreciated


You could use this program to select which OS to boot up after the reboot.

http://www.hmmn.org/boot/


Regards
Mark Dormer

How to do a good posting
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A

Alex

Sorry Mark but it comes up with an error when you change OS to Server 2003.

If I sit at the PC and watch, your boot program first selects "Earlier
Version of Windows" on the first screen and "Microsoft Server 2003" on the
second screen and then comes the error message.

What should happen is "Microsoft Server 2003" selected on the first screen
and "Microsoft Server 2003" selected on the second screen. That's what you
must do if your at the console. I'm wondering if it has something to do with
the way the boot.ini is setup?

Thanks





Alex said:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN. Two of these systems
are
in a remote location and I am able to start up & shut them down remotely.



One of these remote computers is dual boot system with Windows XP Pro and
Server 2003. Windows XP is the default configuration. If I'm sitting in
front of this computer, I can easily select which OS to boot. However,
what
I like to do is control the boot up sequence remotely.



Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the PC is it's easy
to select which OS to boot:



During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The first line is
selected by default so if you take no action, it will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely. I've tried to
change the boot sequence (remotely) through the System Advance menu but it
seems to have a problem with those screen menus.





Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2003"
/NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT



Any suggestions greatly appreciated


You could use this program to select which OS to boot up after the reboot.

http://www.hmmn.org/boot/


Regards
Mark Dormer

How to do a good posting
http://www.dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

You can change the default boot in the boot.ini in either XP or Server to
default to Earlier Version of Windows/MS Server 2003. But then you would
have the same issue if wanting to boot XP.

Alex said:
Sorry Mark but it comes up with an error when you change OS to Server
2003.

If I sit at the PC and watch, your boot program first selects "Earlier
Version of Windows" on the first screen and "Microsoft Server 2003" on the
second screen and then comes the error message.

What should happen is "Microsoft Server 2003" selected on the first screen
and "Microsoft Server 2003" selected on the second screen. That's what you
must do if your at the console. I'm wondering if it has something to do
with the way the boot.ini is setup?

Thanks





Alex said:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN. Two of these systems
are
in a remote location and I am able to start up & shut them down remotely.



One of these remote computers is dual boot system with Windows XP Pro and
Server 2003. Windows XP is the default configuration. If I'm sitting in
front of this computer, I can easily select which OS to boot. However,
what
I like to do is control the boot up sequence remotely.



Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the PC is it's
easy
to select which OS to boot:



During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The first line is
selected by default so if you take no action, it will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely. I've tried to
change the boot sequence (remotely) through the System Advance menu but
it
seems to have a problem with those screen menus.





Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]

timeout=30

default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT

multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2003"
/NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT



Any suggestions greatly appreciated


You could use this program to select which OS to boot up after the reboot.

http://www.hmmn.org/boot/


Regards
Mark Dormer

How to do a good posting
http://www.dts-l.net/goodpost.htm
 
T

Timothy Daniels

Since you can remotely control bootup and shutdown,
you can just edit the boot.ini file so that it selects the
desired OS at the next bootup, then shut it down and
then re-boot, and the desired OS will bootup.

To do that, just toggle the value of "x" in "rdisk(x)" in
the default OS line of the boot.ini file between "0" and "1".
You might also want to reduce the value of the timeout
so you don't have to sit and wait for 30 seconds before
ntldr proceeds to load the OS.

*TimDaniels*
 
A

Alex

Timothy,

Are these the changes you want me to make in order to change the boot from
XP to Server?
[boot loader]
timeout=15
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server 2008"
/NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server 2008"
/NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Timothy Daniels said:
Since you can remotely control bootup and shutdown,
you can just edit the boot.ini file so that it selects the
desired OS at the next bootup, then shut it down and
then re-boot, and the desired OS will bootup.

To do that, just toggle the value of "x" in "rdisk(x)" in
the default OS line of the boot.ini file between "0" and "1".
You might also want to reduce the value of the timeout
so you don't have to sit and wait for 30 seconds before
ntldr proceeds to load the OS.

*TimDaniels*

Alex said:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN.
Two of these systems are in a remote location and I am
able to start up & shut them down remotely.

One of these remote computers is dual boot system with
Windows XP Pro and Server 2003. Windows XP is the
default configuration. If I'm sitting in front of this computer,
I can easily select which OS to boot. However, what I like to do is
control the boot up sequence remotely.

Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the
PC is it's easy to select which OS to boot:

During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The
first line is selected by default so if you take no action, it
will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely.
I've tried to change the boot sequence (remotely) through
the System Advance menu but it seems to have a problem
with those screen menus.

Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2003" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
 
A

Alex

Timothly,

What I don't quite understand why I'm getting 2 boot screens instead of just
one.
First screen
Earlier Version of Windows
Microsoft Server 2003

Second screen
Windows XP
Microsoft Server 2003

Alex


Alex said:
Timothy,

Are these the changes you want me to make in order to change the boot from
XP to Server?
[boot loader]
timeout=15
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2008" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2008" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Timothy Daniels said:
Since you can remotely control bootup and shutdown,
you can just edit the boot.ini file so that it selects the
desired OS at the next bootup, then shut it down and
then re-boot, and the desired OS will bootup.

To do that, just toggle the value of "x" in "rdisk(x)" in
the default OS line of the boot.ini file between "0" and "1".
You might also want to reduce the value of the timeout
so you don't have to sit and wait for 30 seconds before
ntldr proceeds to load the OS.

*TimDaniels*

Alex said:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN.
Two of these systems are in a remote location and I am
able to start up & shut them down remotely.

One of these remote computers is dual boot system with
Windows XP Pro and Server 2003. Windows XP is the
default configuration. If I'm sitting in front of this computer,
I can easily select which OS to boot. However, what I like to do is
control the boot up sequence remotely.

Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the
PC is it's easy to select which OS to boot:

During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The
first line is selected by default so if you take no action, it
will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely.
I've tried to change the boot sequence (remotely) through
the System Advance menu but it seems to have a problem
with those screen menus.

Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2003" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
 
A

Alex

Tim,

Your suggestion did not work - see my new post "Dual Boot Problem-Revisited"

Alex

Timothy Daniels said:
Since you can remotely control bootup and shutdown,
you can just edit the boot.ini file so that it selects the
desired OS at the next bootup, then shut it down and
then re-boot, and the desired OS will bootup.

To do that, just toggle the value of "x" in "rdisk(x)" in
the default OS line of the boot.ini file between "0" and "1".
You might also want to reduce the value of the timeout
so you don't have to sit and wait for 30 seconds before
ntldr proceeds to load the OS.

*TimDaniels*

Alex said:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN.
Two of these systems are in a remote location and I am
able to start up & shut them down remotely.

One of these remote computers is dual boot system with
Windows XP Pro and Server 2003. Windows XP is the
default configuration. If I'm sitting in front of this computer,
I can easily select which OS to boot. However, what I like to do is
control the boot up sequence remotely.

Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the
PC is it's easy to select which OS to boot:

During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The
first line is selected by default so if you take no action, it
will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely.
I've tried to change the boot sequence (remotely) through
the System Advance menu but it seems to have a problem
with those screen menus.

Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2003" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
 
C

Colin Barnhorst

Because Vista does not use a boot.ini file. It uses a BCD store. It sets
up a Vista boot loader and a legacy one. If you have more than one legacy
OS then the legacy option leads to the second (traditional) screen showing
the legacy OSs.

Alex said:
Timothly,

What I don't quite understand why I'm getting 2 boot screens instead of
just one.
First screen
Earlier Version of Windows
Microsoft Server 2003

Second screen
Windows XP
Microsoft Server 2003

Alex


Alex said:
Timothy,

Are these the changes you want me to make in order to change the boot
from XP to Server?
[boot loader]
timeout=15
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2008" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Original
[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2008" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




Timothy Daniels said:
Since you can remotely control bootup and shutdown,
you can just edit the boot.ini file so that it selects the
desired OS at the next bootup, then shut it down and
then re-boot, and the desired OS will bootup.

To do that, just toggle the value of "x" in "rdisk(x)" in
the default OS line of the boot.ini file between "0" and "1".
You might also want to reduce the value of the timeout
so you don't have to sit and wait for 30 seconds before
ntldr proceeds to load the OS.

*TimDaniels*

:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN.
Two of these systems are in a remote location and I am
able to start up & shut them down remotely.

One of these remote computers is dual boot system with
Windows XP Pro and Server 2003. Windows XP is the
default configuration. If I'm sitting in front of this computer,
I can easily select which OS to boot. However, what I like to do is
control the boot up sequence remotely.

Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the
PC is it's easy to select which OS to boot:

During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The
first line is selected by default so if you take no action, it
will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely.
I've tried to change the boot sequence (remotely) through
the System Advance menu but it seems to have a problem
with those screen menus.

Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2003" /NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
 
J

jameshanley39

I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN. Two of these systems are
in a remote location and I am able to start up & shut them down remotely.

One of these remote computers isdualbootsystem with Windows XP Pro and
Server 2003. Windows XP is the default configuration. If I'm sitting in
front of this computer, I can easily select which OS toboot. However, what
I like to do is control thebootup sequence remotely.

<snip>

I cannot see your other thread, can you link to it..

I must have missed something.. But how about

changing this line
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS


I notice that you have these two
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server
2003"

So you see how that default line works? It matches the default one.
You said the default one was XP. That makes sense.

So in that default line, set rdisk(x) and partition, accordingly. Or
just rdisk rather. Since the rest are the same.

For win xp, do
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS

For Windows server 2003 , do
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS


So boot into whichever one you boot into currently, then edit the
boot.ini file and change it, and restart it. So it goes into the other
one.

Change the timeout value to a smaller figure.

In win xp, to edit boot.ini, a way is to do ctrl
panel..system..advanced..settings...edit
(otherwise you can edit it normally, but you have to deal with the
attributes e.g. with attrib command, or with the windows gui.)

Another more expensive way.. Maybe a KVM extender and KVM switch can
operate over the internet. KVM over IP maybe.
 
T

Timothy Daniels

As others have pointed out, 2 boot.ini files (and 2 entire sets
ntldr and ntdetect.com) are involved.

*TimDaniels*

Alex said:
Tim,

Your suggestion did not work - see my new post
"Dual Boot Problem-Revisited"

Alex

Timothy Daniels said:
Since you can remotely control bootup and shutdown,
you can just edit the boot.ini file so that it selects the
desired OS at the next bootup, then shut it down and
then re-boot, and the desired OS will bootup.

To do that, just toggle the value of "x" in "rdisk(x)" in
the default OS line of the boot.ini file between "0" and "1".
You might also want to reduce the value of the timeout
so you don't have to sit and wait for 30 seconds before
ntldr proceeds to load the OS.

*TimDaniels*

Alex said:
I'm operating 3 Windows XP Pro computers on a LAN.
Two of these systems are in a remote location and I am
able to start up & shut them down remotely.

One of these remote computers is dual boot system with
Windows XP Pro and Server 2003. Windows XP is the
default configuration. If I'm sitting in front of this computer,
I can easily select which OS to boot. However, what I like to do is control
the boot up sequence remotely.

Here is the process I see when I'm sitting in front of the
PC is it's easy to select which OS to boot:

During the boot up, 2 text lines appear on the screen. The
first line is selected by default so if you take no action, it
will boot into XP:

Earlier Version of Windows

Microsoft Server 2003



After several seconds a second screen arrears appears:

Windows XP Pro

Microsoft Server 2003



The problem is that I can't control this process remotely.
I've tried to change the boot sequence (remotely) through
the System Advance menu but it seems to have a problem
with those screen menus.

Below is a copy of the boot loader.

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows Server 2003"
/NOEXECUTE=OPTOUT /FASTDETECT
 
S

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