How to block a favicon from being used?

[darkrats]

Usually people want to know how to make a favicon appear on the favorites
menu when someone visits their site. I want something to block this from
happening.

My ISP (www.shaw.ca) insists on adding a Netscape Navigator icon to the
favorites entry of any website on their server. I've talked to them about
it, and they insist it's not their doing. I don't have Netscape on my
computer.

Is their a couple of lines I can add to block the favicon from being used?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Do you have a favicon in your web space?
If not, have you ever had NS installed on your PC at one time?
Have you ever visited the NS web site?
Do you have any 3rd Party Toolbars installed, like Yahoo, Google, etc. that might be assigning the
NS icon to your links on your PC?

I visited the Shaw home page, and add them to my favorites, and see the standard IE page icon, so
they do not have a favicon.

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[darkrats]

No to all those questions.
Doesn't happen with their own Home Page, of course.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Can you provide URL to a site that does this on their servers?

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[darkrats]

You can use any personal home page created with Shaw.
Won't post mine since it's still being worked on, but here's a page I picked
by random.

members.shaw.ca/mypage

Open the page, add to favorites
and let me know if you get a NN favicon.

The tech at Shaw did this and got the favicon too.

 

[Murray]

I do. How rude....

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Murray

You can use any personal home page created with Shaw.
Won't post mine since it's still being worked on, but here's a page I
picked by random.

members.shaw.ca/mypage

Open the page, add to favorites
and let me know if you get a NN favicon.

The tech at Shaw did this and got the favicon too.

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

Shaw has a favicon.ico sitting in the root of their subdomain:
http://members.shaw.ca/favicon.ico

Since members.shaw.ca is their domain, they can do anything they want. They most likely did this to
reduce the number of 404 generated in their log files each time a IE browser visits the domain and
request the file.

The only solution would be to get a domain account from them that is on a static IP address, then
you would not get a favicon associated with your site unless, you put the file in your web space.

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[darkrats]

You were exactly right on this matter.

I spoke again with a tech to see if this favicon.ico can be removed. He was
unable to give me an answer, so instead I got a ticket number and he sent it
up the line. I'm going to be calling Shaw again today and see if anything
will be done.

If I create my own favicon for my website, will it take precedence over the
Shaw Netscape one?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

It should, if you link to it correctly, see http://www.favicon.com for instructions.

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[Jonathan Berry]

If I create my own favicon for my website, will it take precedence over the
Shaw Netscape one?

I also use shaw.ca, and a couple of months ago prepared my own
favicon.ico, uploading it to my web page, and adding this code:

<LINK REL="SHORTCUT ICON"
HREF="http://members.shaw.ca/berry5868/favicon.ico">

to the HEAD section of each web page (well, each page as I updated
it). Fo a while this worked fine, in Opera Beta (Opera 8). I never
seem to get favicons in Firefox 1.0.1, though. Anyway, a couple of
days ago, I started to notice that pages I load from my hard drive now
come up with a generic file icon, and my web pages loaded from shaw.ca
again have the old Netscape icon.

I have changed one page to load the favicon from my hard drive, and it
appears OK, so I don't think this is a browser issue. So, go figure.
Has shaw's server started, in the last few days, not to respond to
requests for members' favicons? Is this their way of telling us not
to use favicons? Is this the result of their techs researching the
answer to your question?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

You favicon is available and viewable.

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[Windsun]

Favicons are stored in the temporary internet files. If you clean those up
it goes away.

 

[Jonathan Berry]

Thank you, Thomas.
I found out that not seeing any favicons in Firefox was that I had a
config item toggled to false (enter the pseudo-URL about:config, filter
for the word icon, both items should be "true").
The problem with Opera Beta seems to be a persistent behaviour (bug?)
in Opera whereby it stores favicons in profile\images, and once it gets
something in there, it ignores or doesn't properly process the LINK REL
directive in the header.
So score two for IE in the browser wars!
Anyway, I have both Opera 8 and Firefox working properly with regard to
favicons, though I suspect if I ever to to the page of a fellow
members.shaw.ca, it will break in Opera.