How does indexing update? I've got old files showing up.

[Scott]

Apparently I had a removable drive that had been assigned letter "J"
at some point. Looking at the icons in "Computer" it seems it was
probably a USB flash drive.

And apparently it was attached long enough to somehow get indexed. I
honestly don't remember this though.

When I search for files, a lot of them show up on this "phantom" J
drive. The files of course, don't exist

Does the index ever "clean" itself or do I have to delete it and start
from scratch?

Curiously,

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[Shane Nokes]

Wow and yet another reason to call you a troll.

Instead of even trying to answer his question you merely go on a rant about
what you are.

Oh and usually at the end of it all kirk jim, you are the one saying "well
maybe I was wrong."


Now onto the issue at hand.

Scott, this website should answer any questions you have regarding how to
change the index options

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-4381.html

 

[dev]

/Scott/ said:

Apparently I had a removable drive that had been assigned letter "J"
at some point. Looking at the icons in "Computer" it seems it was
probably a USB flash drive.

And apparently it was attached long enough to somehow get indexed. I
honestly don't remember this though.

When I search for files, a lot of them show up on this "phantom" J
drive. The files of course, don't exist

Does the index ever "clean" itself or do I have to delete it and start
from scratch?

Curiously,

Folks who feel that Vista indexing/search is not up to their standards
might investigate Ransack, an amazing free search utility...

http://www.mythicsoft.com/agentransack/download.aspx

 

[Shane Nokes]

But that's not quite so.

I mean yes initially he will have to re-build the index.

However he can tell his computer to not index the external drives using the
link I provided, which is what his major problem was to begin with.

The 2nd thing he asked was if it ever auto-rebuilt the index, or if he'd
need it to start from scratch.

Well the reality is it will require a re-build using the option in control
panel, but at least now he can tell it not to index certain drives.

That's more info than what he walked in with, so that wasn't the only
solution

Also the index wasn't showing erroneous info, it was showing completely
correct info. However the drive it was referring to just wasn't plugged in
at the time.

So the compromise is what I suggested by posting that link, remove the
ability to index that drive and info for it will no longer show

 

[Test Man]

And to think the solution could've been replied to with one post instead of
a whole branch of rants!

Tip: if you don't know what the answer is, don't post at all.

But good work Shane Nokes.

 

[jim kirk]

Scott, this is one of the many reasons I do not like
indexing

or...

"search In-Ducks" as I call it. (search index)

Erroneous information will creep in as time goes by..

and this will be a common problem posted on this newsgroup as many will
see...

alas whenever I tell people about such things, they dont understand why im
doing it, and call me a troll....

After some time, I am most often vindicated.... but then
no one cares.

So Im called a troll when I say things before they happen,
and im ignored after they happen and I tell them I told you so..

lol... its not easy being green.

 

[jim kirk]

Hello shane...

Sorry that I did not give a solution and only ranted.

The reason I did not give a solution is that the only solution
from the vista interface is to rebuild the index...

The page you sent says only that too....

But in my opinion that is NOT a solution since it will make the
hard disk index everything again... all from the start...

You cant keep doing that every time index starts showing
erroneous information!!!


There is a problem here, hence my rant....

My rant however explains to the poster that this is a general problem and
not something specifically wrong with his computer.

He can feel at ease now that its vista that is badly designed
and not his own computer that has a problem.

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

Scott, this is one of the many reasons I do not like indexing

And why many of us have been trying to beat it to death ever since
Find Fast slithered out of the swap in MS Office.

MS "listens", in that our ongoing attempts to get rid of htis stuff
were met with it being made increasingly difficult to get rid of it.

First, there was a switch from hte visible Find Fast startup entry, to
rolling that functionality into a generic MS Office startup.

The indexing was welded into NT, so installing MS Office on NT meant
you could not de-select Find Fast.

There was also a switch in the "indexing" component in MS Office
setup, so that when you thought you were de-selecting it, you were
only selecting the Control Panel UI for it, so that kept on running in
a less visible form. We have a word for software that hides itself to
do things the user is trying to prevent...

So now, in a fit of Google envy, indexing is rammed more forceably
into the OS, as is "guess the name" search as a primary UI.

Yes, NTFS makes it less inefficient to do this sort of thing... maybe.
Huge wads of index material seems to suggest the lunch isn't free,
however - but the point is, we were not avoiding pervasive search and
indexing merely because of the system performance deterioration.

In the present age of "exploit anything from anywhere", the
advisability of groping contents of files in the background really
should be reconsidered, IMO.

-- Risk Management is the clue that asks:

"Why do I keep open buckets of petrol next to all the
ashtrays in the lounge, when I don't even have a car?"

 

[kirk jim]

so you are saying MS is making it harder and harder to get rid of it?
What about turning off the search service...

that makes Vista search the "old" way doesnt it?

 

[Scott]

Wow and yet another reason to call you a troll.

Instead of even trying to answer his question you merely go on a rant about
what you are.

Oh and usually at the end of it all kirk jim, you are the one saying "well
maybe I was wrong."


Now onto the issue at hand.

Scott, this website should answer any questions you have regarding how to
change the index options

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-4381.html

Not exactly...

http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-4381.html
1. Open the Start menu and choose Control Panel.

The Control Panel, Vista's bundle of switches and options, appears in
a window.

----CHECK---

2. Open the Indexing Options window.

On some PCs, you may have to click the System and Maintenance icon
first. The Indexing Options window appears, listing the number of
indexed files, and the folders it indexes.

----CHECK---

3. Click the Modify button.

The Indexed Locations window appears, letting you pick and choose
which areas of your hard drive should be indexed.

----CHECK---


4. Select the areas you want to index .......

----ERROR---

"Either there is no default mail client or the current Mail Client
cannot fulfill the messaging request. Please Run Microsoft Office
Outlook [2007] and set it as the default mail client"

Well that would be fine, except...

I DON'T WANT IT AS THE DEFAULT MAIL CLIENT.....

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A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.

 

[cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)]

so you are saying MS is making it harder and harder to get rid of it?

Yep - it's built into the OS, now...

What about turning off the search service...
that makes Vista search the "old" way doesnt it?

Not sure; even in XP, there's some FUD about disabling indexing, in
case some apps "need it" (even some games).

So let's ask the audience: Is there any downside to disabling indexing
other than slower searching?

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"If I'd known it was harmless, I'd have
killed it myself" (PKD)

 

[S Duncan]

These answers do not even address the main issue. I have a similar issue only it is when files are moved within the same hard drive. Now the file(s) are indexed in both locations even if one of the folders is renamed or deleted. So I have to rebuild the index every time I move a file or rename a folder.

UUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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