How do I set up and publish a subdomain

E

Earl Kiosterud

Hi,

I have a web site (www.smokeylake.com), and have published the web. I have
another FrontPage web (excel) , which I wish to set up as a subdomain,
www.excel.smokeylake.com. I've set up the subdomain on the web host, and
can get to it there and see the placeholder that the provider put there. I
can't figure out how to publish web excel as a subdomain. It won't publish
to excel/smokeylake.com. I've looked at subwebs, but that doesn't seem to
be what I need. Found nothing on subdomains in Front Page Help, nor in
Knowledge Base.

Thanks.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Publishing is done via the domain name or IP address of the destination web.
As your destination web is set up at www.excel.smokeylake.com I would
suggest publishing your subweb to that domain name. If the domain name is
new, it may not be picked up yet by DNS servers, so use the IP address if
this is the case.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

The best way is to publish to Excel as a subweb under www.smokeylake.com like:
http://www.smokeylake.com/excel and then your host would point the DNS for the subdomain to
www.excel.smokeylake.com

You will find no references in FP related to subdomains, at that I have seen.


--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
E

Earl Kiosterud

Kevin,

Thanks a bunch. Do I need to convert web excel to a subweb? I looked at
that, but don't see how to do it. Also, in the Publish Web dialog, I see no
excel folder, yet it works -- I can go to www.excel.smokeylake.com. The
subdomain is there.

Is a subweb a subdomain? I tried importing the excel web folder into web
smokeylake, and then converting it to a subweb. Then I published smokeylake
again, and was successful -- I saw it upload all the files in excel. But it
doesn't appear on the net as excel.smokeylake.com. I still get the host's
placeholder page.

The subject of subdomains seems to have little documentation, and it's
fragmented. Front Page doesn't mention it at all.
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Hi Earl,

A Subweb is NOT a domain. It is a sub-web OF a domain. So, no, you don't
have to convert anything to a subweb.

A subweb is simply a web site that resides under another web site's
directory structure, and has its own FrontPage server extensions and
Application memory space in IIS. Therefore, it is entirely possible and okay
to publish a subweb to a domain or a root web to a subweb OF a domain. A
root web is a web site that resides at the root folder level of a domain.
But if you notice, both types of web sites are web sites, and have their own
server extensions.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.
 
E

Earl Kiosterud

Kevin,

I have it set up as a subweb now, smokeylake.com/excel. But I was really
hoping to set it up as a subdomain -- excel.smokeylake.com. Is this
possible? The subdomain exists at the domain host, and has their
placeholder page there currently.
 
T

Tom Pepper Willett

See the other responses from Thomas Rowe that explain about the dns pointer
record and publishing as a subweb.
--
===
Tom "Pepper" Willett
Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
---
About FrontPage 2003:
http://office.microsoft.com/home/office.aspx?assetid=FX01085802
FrontPage 2003 Product Information:
http://www.microsoft.com/office/frontpage/prodinfo/default.mspx
Understanding FrontPage:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/understanding/frontpage/
FrontPage 2002 Server Extensions Support Center:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;en-us;fp10se
===
| Kevin,
|
| I have it set up as a subweb now, smokeylake.com/excel. But I was really
| hoping to set it up as a subdomain -- excel.smokeylake.com. Is this
| possible? The subdomain exists at the domain host, and has their
| placeholder page there currently.
|
| --
| Earl Kiosterud
| mvpearl omitthisword at verizon period net
| -------------------------------------------
|
| | > Hi Earl,
| >
| > A Subweb is NOT a domain. It is a sub-web OF a domain. So, no, you don't
| > have to convert anything to a subweb.
| >
| > A subweb is simply a web site that resides under another web site's
| > directory structure, and has its own FrontPage server extensions and
| > Application memory space in IIS. Therefore, it is entirely possible and
| okay
| > to publish a subweb to a domain or a root web to a subweb OF a domain. A
| > root web is a web site that resides at the root folder level of a
domain.
| > But if you notice, both types of web sites are web sites, and have their
| own
| > server extensions.
| >
| > --
| > HTH,
| > Kevin Spencer
| > .Net Developer
| > Microsoft MVP
| > Big things are made up
| > of lots of little things.
| >
| > | > > Kevin,
| > >
| > > Thanks a bunch. Do I need to convert web excel to a subweb? I looked
| at
| > > that, but don't see how to do it. Also, in the Publish Web dialog, I
| see
| > no
| > > excel folder, yet it works -- I can go to www.excel.smokeylake.com.
The
| > > subdomain is there.
| > >
| > > Is a subweb a subdomain? I tried importing the excel web folder into
| web
| > > smokeylake, and then converting it to a subweb. Then I published
| > smokeylake
| > > again, and was successful -- I saw it upload all the files in excel.
| But
| > it
| > > doesn't appear on the net as excel.smokeylake.com. I still get the
| host's
| > > placeholder page.
| > >
| > > The subject of subdomains seems to have little documentation, and it's
| > > fragmented. Front Page doesn't mention it at all.
| > > --
| > > Earl Kiosterud
| > > mvpearl omitthisword at verizon period net
| > > -------------------------------------------
| > >
| > > | > > > Publishing is done via the domain name or IP address of the
| destination
| > > web.
| > > > As your destination web is set up at www.excel.smokeylake.com I
would
| > > > suggest publishing your subweb to that domain name. If the domain
name
| > is
| > > > new, it may not be picked up yet by DNS servers, so use the IP
address
| > if
| > > > this is the case.
| > > >
| > > > --
| > > > HTH,
| > > > Kevin Spencer
| > > > .Net Developer
| > > > Microsoft MVP
| > > > Big things are made up
| > > > of lots of little things.
| > > >
| > > > | > > > > Hi,
| > > > >
| > > > > I have a web site (www.smokeylake.com), and have published the
web.
| I
| > > > have
| > > > > another FrontPage web (excel) , which I wish to set up as a
| subdomain,
| > > > > www.excel.smokeylake.com. I've set up the subdomain on the web
| host,
| > > and
| > > > > can get to it there and see the placeholder that the provider put
| > there.
| > > > I
| > > > > can't figure out how to publish web excel as a subdomain. It
won't
| > > > publish
| > > > > to excel/smokeylake.com. I've looked at subwebs, but that doesn't
| > seem
| > > to
| > > > > be what I need. Found nothing on subdomains in Front Page Help,
nor
| in
| > > > > Knowledge Base.
| > > > >
| > > > > Thanks.
| > > > > --
| > > > > Earl Kiosterud
| > > > > mvpearl omitthisword at verizon period net
| > > > > -------------------------------------------
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > > >
| > > >
| > > >
| > >
| > >
| > >
| >
| >
|
|
 
R

Ronx

It sounds as if the host has set up a new web site altogether, and pointed
www.excel.smokeylake.com to it. This is a subdomain, but is not a subweb.
You would publish to http://www.excel.smokeylake.com/ .

When publishing your main web you will not see any sign of the subdomain
among the folders, it is even possible that the subdomain is hosted on a
different server than your main web.

As far as your local copy of the webs is concerned, I would not make excel a
subweb of (or a folder in) the main web, but treat it as a complete website
in its own right.

Ron
 
K

Kevin Spencer

Hi Earl,

you misread my post. Note that I said "A Subweb is NOT a domain... So, no,
you don't have to convert anything to a subweb." Instead, you should have
published the excel web to excel.smokeylake.com. It doesn't matter if it is
a subweb on your local machine. As I pointed out, you can publish Subwebs to
domains and vice versa.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.
 
E

Earl Kiosterud

Ron,

Yeah. I went ahead and made excel a subweb just to get doing.

I can't publish to the subdomain from Front Page. Front Page says "Unable
to open 'http://www.excel.smokeylake.com'. I'm not able to determine if the
FP extensions are installed for the subdomain, but it seems it should have
inherited all the settings of the domain.
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

The best way to work with subdomain with FP, is to publish to a subweb, such as:
http://www.smokeylake.com/excel

Then YOUR host would point the subdomain of http://excel.smokeylake.com to display the content from
http://www.smokeylake.com/excel

From a browser the user would see the subdomain as:
http://excel.smokeylake.com

From FP you would access the subdomain as:
http://www.smokeylake.com/excel
--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
R

Ronx

If the subdomain has been set up as a new web, it won't inherit anything
from the root domain.
The (lack of) _vti_inf.html indicates there are no extensions installed.

Ron
 
E

Earl Kiosterud

Thomas,

Thanks. They seem to have the subweb set up as a separate web. No FP
extensions. I think I'd have to get the host to set up excel.smokeylake.com
to point to smokeylake.com/excel, right?
 
T

Thomas A. Rowe

Yes.

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Top