How do I freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars?

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I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
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Pitty! I was hoping to gain some viewable screen space without having to
repeatedly rearrange the numerous layers of toolbars! Wish Microsoft had
thought of that. Nevertheless, thank you very much for your prompt answer.

Diane Poremsky said:
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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wifigoo said:
I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
Why...It did work before. Why can't it be updated

Diane Poremsky said:
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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wifigoo said:
I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
Some addins were poorly written and don't handle creating toolsbars
correctly - you'll need an update for the offending addin.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



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AJ Mazetis said:
Why...It did work before. Why can't it be updated

Diane Poremsky said:
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left
them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


wifigoo said:
I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next
time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
wifigoo said:
I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
With Business Contact Manager installed I was unable to lock any toolbars. I
seem to recall a difficulty in even remobving them from my page.
I have removed Business CXOntact Manager and things look a lot better.
It is a pit that my experience of Outlook is spoilt by such a small but very
irritating flaw in BCM or wherever!
 
Poorly written by Microsoft? I have a fresh out of the box installation of
Office XP. Only additions have been deemed necessary by Microsoft to plug the
many security holes. My toolbars never stay arranged session to session.

Diane Poremsky said:
Some addins were poorly written and don't handle creating toolsbars
correctly - you'll need an update for the offending addin.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


AJ Mazetis said:
Why...It did work before. Why can't it be updated

Diane Poremsky said:
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left
them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next
time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
The toolbars do NOT stay where I left them.

Why is it possible to lock toolbars in Internet Explorer and not Outlook
2003? This seems like a major useability difference between two Miocrosoft
products.

Diane Poremsky said:
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


wifigoo said:
I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
Because they were developed by two different teams of developers in two
different product groups who had different priorities. (OE is part of the
product group that has locking toolbars and it doesn't.)

Given the choice between locking toolbars or other improvements to Outlook,
most people would prefer other improvements.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


wsalopek said:
The toolbars do NOT stay where I left them.

Why is it possible to lock toolbars in Internet Explorer and not Outlook
2003? This seems like a major useability difference between two
Miocrosoft
products.

Diane Poremsky said:
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left
them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


wifigoo said:
I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next
time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
Diane.

Both of these "teams" work for Microsoft, correct? Doesn't Microsoft give
these teams certain guidelines?

After all, one of the main reasons to use more than one software title from
the same company is that they behave the SAME or at least very similar.

Look, you guys keep making excuses for the fact that Outlook has a
BUG...even when I use NO 3rd party toolbars, still, each time I restart
Outlook, the MICROSOFT toolbars are placed willy nilly.

This is a BUG and needs FIXED.

And you'd have to tell us what other "improvements" the "team" decided to
implement instead of locking toolbars (or even toolbars that just STAY PUT)
for us users to decide if they were worth it.

Diane Poremsky said:
Because they were developed by two different teams of developers in two
different product groups who had different priorities. (OE is part of the
product group that has locking toolbars and it doesn't.)

Given the choice between locking toolbars or other improvements to Outlook,
most people would prefer other improvements.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


wsalopek said:
The toolbars do NOT stay where I left them.

Why is it possible to lock toolbars in Internet Explorer and not Outlook
2003? This seems like a major useability difference between two
Miocrosoft
products.

Diane Poremsky said:
It's not possible. For the most part, they should stay where you left
them
but toolbars installed by addins will cause problems.

--
Diane Poremsky [MVP - Outlook]
Author, Teach Yourself Outlook 2003 in 24 Hours
Coauthor, OneNote 2003 for Windows (Visual QuickStart Guide)
Author, Google and Other Search Engines (Visual QuickStart Guide)



Join OneNote Tips mailing list: http://www.onenote-tips.net/


I would like to freeze or lock the Outlook toolbars so that the next
time I
open Outlook the toolbars don't appear in disorder.

Thank you for letting me know if this is possible.

[Outlook 2003]
 
Look, you guys keep making excuses for the fact that Outlook has a
BUG...even when I use NO 3rd party toolbars, still, each time I restart
Outlook, the MICROSOFT toolbars are placed willy nilly.

Does outlook close complately or is it left running in task manager?
Toolbars aren't saved until you close outlook and if it crashes or is forced
to exit, the changes aren't saved. (My toolbars stick where i put them once
i got rid of the annoying Acrobat addin.)
And you'd have to tell us what other "improvements" the "team" decided to
implement instead of locking toolbars (or even toolbars that just STAY
PUT)
for us users to decide if they were worth it.

MS uses a triage system to rank potential changes by importance (how many
users will benefit), the cost of adding the feature, and the bugs it may
introduce. Some of the features we often see requested here will be in
Outlook 12 - but I wouldn't look for locking toolbars in Outlook 2003, even
in a future SP.

Calendar improvements in Outlook 2003 is but one example of something more
important than locking toolbars to many users. Outlook 12 will have a lot of
improvements, it may even have locking toolbars - they aren't on the list of
rumored changes but that doesn't mean anything, since only major things leak
out.

Things that are often requested here that I think are more important are
travel time allowances, locking appointments to a specific time (not
adjusting the time based on the current time zone). Associating OOF with
appointments, so OOF is always on but only sends OOF when you have an
appointment in your calendar. Subcategories and subtasks. The mail
transports need work so they are faster and aren't so touchy with malformed
messages.
Others are listed at http://www.slipstick.com/emo/2004/up040820.htm#doz
 
This is indeed a frustrating and annoying bug. Judging from the number of
questions regarding this topic, obviously Microsoft should have put a little
more thought and time into this particular user interface. And I say this as
a girlfriend of a director at MS.

Could you elaborate on how to get rid of the addins causing the problem? My
toolbars appear on FOUR different lines, and all that empty room at the top
is a real waste of space.

Thanks!
 
I have to agree with Kate. This is a bug that MS should have dealt with.
Pawning it off on the 3rd party vendors is not acceptable. I had the same
problem with MS HomeStyle long before I had the problem with Adobe's addins.
This is annoying and I can't imagine that most people would be more concerned
with OOF or even know what that is than having a bunch of toolbars in wierd
places. I was using Office 2007 until I got too annoyed that it doesn't have
English MUI's and the ribbons just don't behave the way I want them too.
Outlook should fix this bug like it has been fixed in other MS Office
products. Please don't tell us again that this is only a 3rd party addin
glitch. MS products do this too because of poor design.
 

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