How do I do a complete 1 GB memory dump with limited C: free space?

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Ant

Hello!

I have a dilemma. I have 1 GB free of disk space on C: and 1 GB of RAM.
How can I do a full memory dump due to lack of disk space on C: drive? I
know Windows XP Professional SP2 wants 1024 MB minimum. After a blue
screen crash (using it for analysis -- I am not a developer/programmer),
I go back to Windows and do not find memory.dmp in c:\windows\
directory/folder. I can do Kernel and small memory dumps just fine, but
I read and heard that these are not accurate as full memory dumps.

I cannot really resize, uninstall, and move stuff from C: at this time.
Not even change HDD. Thank you in advance. :)
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CWatters

Ant said:
Hello!

I have a dilemma. I have 1 GB free of disk space on C: and 1 GB of RAM.
How can I do a full memory dump due to lack of disk space on C: drive? I
know Windows XP Professional SP2 wants 1024 MB minimum. After a blue
screen crash (using it for analysis -- I am not a developer/programmer),
I go back to Windows and do not find memory.dmp in c:\windows\
directory/folder. I can do Kernel and small memory dumps just fine, but
I read and heard that these are not accurate as full memory dumps.

I cannot really resize, uninstall, and move stuff from C: at this time.
Not even change HDD. Thank you in advance. :)
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Compress something or plug in a USB drive?
 
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Mark Roddy

Ant said:
Hello!

I have a dilemma. I have 1 GB free of disk space on C: and 1 GB of RAM.
How can I do a full memory dump due to lack of disk space on C: drive? I
know Windows XP Professional SP2 wants 1024 MB minimum. After a blue
screen crash (using it for analysis -- I am not a developer/programmer),
I go back to Windows and do not find memory.dmp in c:\windows\
directory/folder. I can do Kernel and small memory dumps just fine, but
I read and heard that these are not accurate as full memory dumps.

I cannot really resize, uninstall, and move stuff from C: at this time.
Not even change HDD. Thank you in advance. :)
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Have you tried setting the dump file location to a different volume?

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A

Abhilash Tibrewal

You can change the location of dump file to any other partition/drive from
the Startup and Recovery options in System Properties.
 
A

Ant

Have you tried setting the dump file location to a different volume?
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I will try that. I didn't know that was supported. Since I have to go to
Windows, will XP move then dump file before it makes a new swap file
on C:?
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A

Ant

Compress something or plug in a USB drive?
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Already did. :(
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Ron Martell

Mark Roddy said:
Have you tried setting the dump file location to a different volume?
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Won't work. The system failure memory dump is hard coded to go to the
paging file on the system boot drive. It dumps to the file and then
renames it. Much faster than creating a new file.


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Ron Martell

Ant said:
Hello!

I have a dilemma. I have 1 GB free of disk space on C: and 1 GB of RAM.
How can I do a full memory dump due to lack of disk space on C: drive? I
know Windows XP Professional SP2 wants 1024 MB minimum. After a blue
screen crash (using it for analysis -- I am not a developer/programmer),
I go back to Windows and do not find memory.dmp in c:\windows\
directory/folder. I can do Kernel and small memory dumps just fine, but
I read and heard that these are not accurate as full memory dumps.

I cannot really resize, uninstall, and move stuff from C: at this time.
Not even change HDD. Thank you in advance. :)
Click to expand...

Do you really need the full memory dump for your purposes?

The System Failure Memory Dump uses the paging file on the system
drive. How big is the existing paging file on that drive? It must be
at least equal to the amount of RAM in order to contain the full
memory dump so you should set your paging file minimum to that figure.

But if there is not enough room on the drive for this size paging file
then you are not going to able to get the full memory dump.

Good luck




Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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Microsoft MVP
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http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

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Phillip Pi

Do you really need the full memory dump for your purposes?
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I read/heard you need to do a full memory dump for more accurate data
then the smaller dumps. Isn't this true?

The System Failure Memory Dump uses the paging file on the system
drive. How big is the existing paging file on that drive? It must be
at least equal to the amount of RAM in order to contain the full
memory dump so you should set your paging file minimum to that figure.
Click to expand...

I had 200 MB size and be able to grow and then G: drive had like 1 GB
page file. When I told XP to do a full memory dump, it told me that I
needed at least 1024 MB on C:
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Mark Roddy

Ron said:
Won't work. The system failure memory dump is hard coded to go to the
paging file on the system boot drive. It dumps to the file and then
renames it. Much faster than creating a new file.


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
Click to expand...
The page file is certainly the location of the dump data when it is
written. I am not sure about the latter part - that you cannot specify a
different volume for the ultimate destination of the dump file after
reboot. I'll have to go try it out. Hmmm.... works like a champ on my
w2k3 test system.


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K

Kevin

Use the /maxmem=### BOOT.INI option to set the amount of memory available to
less than the size of available disk space.
 
A

Ant

compress everything
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Still not enough. :(
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A

Ant

Interesting. I hope this will work with thes games that hog like 900+ MB
of my memory!


Use the /maxmem=### BOOT.INI option to set the amount of memory available to
less than the size of available disk space.
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