How Do I Change Boot Manager Partition From D: to C:

[Guest]

I'm looking for a way to change how Vista Business boots up.
New Installation of Windows Business on newly formatted drive.

I have two SCSI Drives
When I installed Vista the SCSI IDs were:
- Fujitsu drive = 15, which is C:\... Disk Manager shows this as Disk 1
- Maxtor driver = 14, which is D:\... Disk Manager shows this as Disk 0
\windows and EVERYTHING except the \boot folder is on the Fujitsu drive....

The Vista installation was done to the Fujitsu drive, the Maxtor drive being
data, backups, no programs whatever. Kicker is, the \boot folder wound up on
the Maxtor drive and Boot Manager shows Partition=D: ... in retrospect, I
seem to remember SCSI puts the boot sector on the device with the lowest SCSI
ID... wish I'd remembered that before all the installation and loading TONS
of software on this drive...

I want
- to change the SCSI IDs from to
- - Fujitsu from 15 to 0, keeping the drive C:\
- - Maxtor from 14 to 1, keeping the drive D:\
- - Move/change the \boot folder from the Maxtor to Fujitsu
- - Change the Boot Manager so that Partition=C:
- - Be able to remove or format the Maxtor drive and still boot up to Vista

It appears bcdedit might do this for me, but the documentation, and all the
notes on the web deal with dual boot... and I'm not smart enough to figure
this one out how to adatp those notes to this problem on my own.

I'm guessing I may get only one shot at this... that I'll have to make
changes using bcdedit (tried EZ, then power down and change the SCSI ID
jumper... and if the machine doesn't come up, I'm in trouble.. maybe I'm
just being careful (or paranoid)...

I'm hoping someone can give me fool proof, step by step directions to do
this...
The number of bcdedit options is amazing when you start digging... but not
intiutive.
And I've not found documentation which seems to address my problem.

C:\>bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=D: <-- this i want to change to C:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Microsoft Windows Vista
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {e14c725f-a452-11db-894d-a07a379c24b8}
nx OptIn

 

[Dale M. White]

There is a program called VistabootPro, I think it will address what you
want and it's free
http://www.vistabootpro.org/

 

[Guest]

Dale,
Thanks... I looked at both VistabootPro and EasyBCD.. neither would do the
trick.
I did however find the solution.

- Changed the SCSI IDs for the two drives
- Fujitsu from 15 to 0
- Maxtor from 14 to 1
- Disconnected the Maxtor (drive D drive
- Boot up shows "No Bootmgr"
- Booted from the original installation CD and selected Repair An
Installaiton from the 2nd screen which comes up.
- First time around, the repair process does not show a \windows
installation, but does indicate something required for boot up is missing and
offers to fix it. (I suspect this was the SCSI driver)
- Reboot, and the 2nd time I selected the repair option, a \windows system
does show up.
- The repair created a new \boot folder, added the bootmgr file and bcd.log
- PC now boots to a fully functionaly, nothing missing Windows Vista
installation.
- Plugged the Maxtor (D drive back in, copied the data to a different
different, used Disk Manager to delete and rebuild the partition and
re-format the drive, copied the data back, and voila

C:\>bcdedit now shows the following...

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=C:
default {current}
displayorder {current}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows Vista (TM) Business (recovered)
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {113fa273-c0c7-11db-97e1-806e6f6e6963}

 

[Walter Blanchard]

Here's what I did, and it worked.

1. disconnect d: drive
2. boot from Vista DVD and run repair
3. reboot system to be sure Vista loads
4. reconnect d: drive
5. delete boot directory and other boot files (have to have show hidden
files enabled)


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Walter B
waltblanch[at]tampabay[dot]rr[dot]com
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[Guest]

Oh my, I just realized the forum I post at forwards to this newsgroup but
messed up on my update and skipped it

Anyways, here it is for the rest of you guys

I found this nice little white paper on microsoft's website talking all
about BCD, and how the store is a binary file in the registry hive format. If
you really want to read it you can grab it at

http://download.microsoft.com/download/a/f/7/af7777e5-7dcd-4800-8a0a-b18336565f5b/BCD.doc

(just search google for "BCD.doc" real quick if you want to use its viewer)
Have fun :b

Well I started poking around on my own looking for a way to do this and I
think I have it. BTW, I tried doing this with the powershell and I got a nice
error saying

Code:

PS C:\> bcdedit /set {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795} device
partition=c:
Bad numeric constant: 9dea862c.
At line:1 char:22
+ bcdedit /set {9dea862c <<<< -5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795} device
partition=c:

Don't really know why, but if you do this just run cmd as an administrator
as it worked fine there for me

In any case, you probably have a lot of system files on that other drive. In
my case I just copied them over to c:, which would include the hidden boot
folder and other fun system files on the root directory of the D: drive.

First off we want to take a nice look at the output of:

bcdedit /enum all /v

This will show us a bunch of fun info. What we are really trying to find out
are where different pieces are located.

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /enum all /v

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795}
device partition=D:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
default {f8f8326a-d299-11db-a0f0-ac102f5b5af1}
resumeobject {f8f8326b-d299-11db-a0f0-ac102f5b5af1}
displayorder {f8f8326a-d299-11db-a0f0-ac102f5b5af1}
toolsdisplayorder {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {f8f8326a-d299-11db-a0f0-ac102f5b5af1}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Microsoft Windows Vista
locale en-US
inherit {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {f8f8326b-d299-11db-a0f0-ac102f5b5af1}
nx OptIn

Resume from Hibernate
---------------------
identifier {f8f8326b-d299-11db-a0f0-ac102f5b5af1}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winresume.exe
description Windows Resume Application
locale en-US
inherit {1afa9c49-16ab-4a5c-901b-212802da9460}
filedevice partition=C:
filepath \hiberfil.sys
debugoptionenabled No

Windows Memory Tester
---------------------
identifier {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}
device partition=D:
path \boot\memtest.exe
description Windows Memory Diagnostic
locale en-US
inherit {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
badmemoryaccess Yes

EMS Settings
------------
identifier {0ce4991b-e6b3-4b16-b23c-5e0d9250e5d9}
bootems Yes

Debugger Settings
-----------------
identifier {4636856e-540f-4170-a130-a84776f4c654}
debugtype Serial
debugport 1
baudrate 115200

RAM Defects
-----------
identifier {5189b25c-5558-4bf2-bca4-289b11bd29e2}

Global Settings
---------------
identifier {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
inherit {4636856e-540f-4170-a130-a84776f4c654}
{0ce4991b-e6b3-4b16-b23c-5e0d9250e5d9}
{5189b25c-5558-4bf2-bca4-289b11bd29e2}

Boot Loader Settings
--------------------
identifier {6efb52bf-1766-41db-a6b3-0ee5eff72bd7}
inherit {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}

Resume Loader Settings
----------------------
identifier {1afa9c49-16ab-4a5c-901b-212802da9460}
inherit {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}

In my case, both the Windows Memory Diagnostic and the Windows Boot Manager
were configured for D:, so I want to change those.

Now following along with BCD.doc, we know now that the Boot Manager is
always reffered to as {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795} and so on, so we
use the following commands to make things right in my case.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /set {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795}
device partition=c:
The operation completed successfully.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /set {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}
device partition=c:
The operation completed successfully.

I also set C: as the active partition, makes me wonder if thats what caused
all this trouble during installation, as the D: drive was originally the
active partition

Now I reboot and hope for the best
.....
and it works!

Now if I go into Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management
D: no longer shows up with the System flag and its normal. Now I happily
delete it and grow the vista install partition