how do i boot in safe mode but net with msconfig

[mike]

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[Norm]

Press F8 during the boot process.

 

[S.Sengupta]

HiMike!

Reboot your computer while holding down the F8 Key will give you :-

2nd option safe mode with networking.
regards/
ssg/pronetworks.org

 

[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

Open MSCONFIG Go to the BOOT.INI tab. Once you select the /SAFEBOOT
option, the sub options will become available.

 

[S.Sengupta]

Hi!Mike!
you may do this:-
start > Run > type msconfig > ok > click Boot.ini > check mark "safe
boot" under boot options > apply/ok
regards,
ssg/pronetworks.org

 

[TCRonson]

This is somewhat off topic, but I would like your comments. Several months
ago, I was having trouble installing a program. Their help files suggested
installing it in Safe Mode, obtained through the MSCONFIG>BOOT.INI method.
When I tried to reboot, the computer refused to recognize my password (I am
set up on a domain, dial-up to our corporate computer). Nothing I tried
could get me in. I tried a password cracker, which showed that I was, in
fact using the correct password. I got my corporate administrator who set up
the computer initially to give me her admin password, which did not work
either. I notice that the domain option was not available in Safe Mode, so I
typed in my password@domain in the password box and this didn't work either.
I ended up having to send the computer back to corp for a re-image (they
will not allow us to set ours up in the field). Did Safe Mode cause this, or
was their some other, concurrent problem that I was not aware of? As you may
guess, I am quite paranoid of Safe Mode at this point.

TIA

TCR

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[Doug Knox MS-MVP]

TCR,

I haven't had the occassion to try Safe Mode in a domain environment, so
can't give you an answer. Your Sys Admins may want to look into allowing
local logon whether you're connected to the domain or not.

 

[TCRonson]

Thanks for resonding. My Sys Admins don't want to look into anything that
even might make their day difficult. I'm in a remote office, dialed in
approx 5% of my computer "on time", and yet they insist on locking it down
to the point that it's hard to get my work done. I am actively looking for
ways to overcome the Group Policies they have if anyone here is willing to
help (I can see all of you IS people grabbing your head with both hands).

TCR

TCR,

I haven't had the occassion to try Safe Mode in a domain environment, so
can't give you an answer. Your Sys Admins may want to look into allowing
local logon whether you're connected to the domain or not.



set so this,

SNIP

 

[Malke]

Thanks for resonding. My Sys Admins don't want to look into anything
that even might make their day difficult. I'm in a remote office,
dialed in approx 5% of my computer "on time", and yet they insist on
locking it down to the point that it's hard to get my work done. I am
actively looking for ways to overcome the Group Policies they have if
anyone here is willing to help (I can see all of you IS people
grabbing your head with both hands).

TCR

(much snippage)

Thanks for explaining what you're trying to do. Yes, all of us IT people
are grabbing our heads because having a user try to get around domain
group policy is stupid and dangerous. What you really need to do is
communicate with your IT people, either through the heads of your
respective depts. or through whatever constructive channels are
appropriate for your company. You need to clearly and calmly tell them
exactly what you do and how you need to work so arrangements can be
made. They need to tell you how to get your work done within the
confines of corporate security. Trying to circumvent corporate security
isn't the way to do it.

Good luck,

Malke

 

[TCRonson]

(much snippage)

Thanks for explaining what you're trying to do. Yes, all of us IT people
are grabbing our heads because having a user try to get around domain
group policy is stupid and dangerous. What you really need to do is
communicate with your IT people, either through the heads of your
respective depts. or through whatever constructive channels are
appropriate for your company. You need to clearly and calmly tell them
exactly what you do and how you need to work so arrangements can be
made. They need to tell you how to get your work done within the
confines of corporate security. Trying to circumvent corporate security
isn't the way to do it.

Good luck,

Malke

Thanks for responding. I know what you are saying, and I mostly agree. The
problem I'm having is that I am one of about 15 people in an orgainzation of
about 1200 computer users who work out of a home office. I am my own
secretary, receptionist and janitor. I am a field manager for 3 states. I've
had this discussion with IS before. The last lapop they sent me 4 years ago
was so bad that I sent it back and bought my own. This laptop is much
better, and they did agree to leave me as an administrator so I could load
software (they were going to refuse this, but I told them to keep the
computer), but a few restrictions are frustrating. For instance, they force
a screen saver and password reset after 15 minutes. As stated, I am in a
home office. I could live with this if it were not for trade shows. I have
our CADD software running on my laptop, and everytime I talk to someone and
try to demonstrate it, I had to retype my password. I have remedied that
problem through the registry. The item I am currently working on is that
they have removed the "Desktop" tab from "Display Properties". I would like
to display our corporate logo as my desktop. I cannot find a correstponding
registry entry for hiding this tab.
As you can see, the changes I would like to make are not really safety
related. Although I am not a guru, I have taught myself quite a bit, as I
must support myself most of the time. The IS people are quite knowledgable
about servers, but have very little experience with the things I need. When
I do call them, they have to research it and try to get back with me. Almots
always I can get an answer from the web before they get back (if they do).
If you are willing to help, I appreciate it. If not, I understand.

TIA

TCR

 

[David Candy]

While an admin can change the registry, Group Policy will just change it back. So you can probably have changes stick for an hour or so, but no more than next logon..

a.. Client computers request policy from a domain controller when any of the following events occur:
a.. A computer starts up.
b.. A user logs on.
c.. An application requests a refresh through the RefreshPolicy() application programming interface (API).
d.. The user requests an immediate refresh.
e.. One of the Group Policy refresh interval policies is enabled, and the interval has transpired.
Policy is not imposed by the domain controller; it is requested by the client computer.

a.. The minimum setting for the Group Policy refresh interval (zero minutes) actually takes about seven seconds between requests for a refresh. Very short refresh interval settings should not be used in a production environment, except briefly for testing.

What type of Group Policy. If you're not on a domain and you are an admin then you can change it.

 

[Malke]

Thanks for responding. I know what you are saying, and I mostly agree.
The problem I'm having is that I am one of about 15 people in an
orgainzation of about 1200 computer users who work out of a home
office. I am my own secretary, receptionist and janitor. I am a field
manager for 3 states. I've had this discussion with IS before. The
last lapop they sent me 4 years ago was so bad that I sent it back and
bought my own. This laptop is much better, and they did agree to leave
me as an administrator so I could load software (they were going to
refuse this, but I told them to keep the computer), but a few
restrictions are frustrating. For instance, they force a screen saver
and password reset after 15 minutes. As stated, I am in a home office.
I could live with this if it were not for trade shows. I have our CADD
software running on my laptop, and everytime I talk to someone and try
to demonstrate it, I had to retype my password. I have remedied that
problem through the registry. The item I am currently working on is
that they have removed the "Desktop" tab from "Display Properties". I
would like to display our corporate logo as my desktop. I cannot find
a correstponding registry entry for hiding this tab. As you can see,
the changes I would like to make are not really safety related.
Although I am not a guru, I have taught myself quite a bit, as I must
support myself most of the time. The IS people are quite knowledgable
about servers, but have very little experience with the things I need.
When I do call them, they have to research it and try to get back with
me. Almots always I can get an answer from the web before they get
back (if they do). If you are willing to help, I appreciate it. If
not, I understand.

See, you've just written a very eloquent explanation of what you do and
why you need to do it. This is exactly the sort of thing you need to do
with your boss and the IT boss. If I were in IT and got this
information, it would seem completely reasonable to me, but the only
way you're going to get this resolved is by working with the
individuals in your company. You can't change domain policy from a
workstation. This is by design and is a Good Thing.

Good luck,

Malke

 

[TCRonson]

While an admin can change the registry, Group Policy will just change it
back. So you can probably have changes stick for an hour or so, but no more
than next logon..

a.. Client computers request policy from a domain controller when any of the
following events occur:
a.. A computer starts up.
b.. A user logs on.
c.. An application requests a refresh through the RefreshPolicy()
application programming interface (API).
d.. The user requests an immediate refresh.
e.. One of the Group Policy refresh interval policies is enabled, and the
interval has transpired.
Policy is not imposed by the domain controller; it is requested by the
client computer.

a.. The minimum setting for the Group Policy refresh interval (zero minutes)
actually takes about seven seconds between requests for a refresh. Very
short refresh interval settings should not be used in a production
environment, except briefly for testing.

What type of Group Policy. If you're not on a domain and you are an admin
then you can change it.

==========================

I am on a domain. I have seen that the group policy refreshes at certain
intervals (I'm not sure how often), but that doesn't seem to change the
registry settings I have changed. It seems if I play around long enough
(with System Restore set points and ERUNT backups) I can find a setting that
gives me what I want. I dial back into the server, and my settings hold.
They will probably catch up with me some day, but for now it works much
better than when they sent it to me.
Thanks for your response.

TCR

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[TCRonson]

See, you've just written a very eloquent explanation of what you do and
why you need to do it. This is exactly the sort of thing you need to do
with your boss and the IT boss. If I were in IT and got this
information, it would seem completely reasonable to me, but the only
way you're going to get this resolved is by working with the
individuals in your company. You can't change domain policy from a
workstation. This is by design and is a Good Thing.

Good luck,

Malke

Thanks again for responding. Once again, I agree with you mostly <g>. I've
been this route before. The only thing that keeps them giving me admin
privelidges is my threat to send their computer back and buy my own. I've
discussed this with my boss, but he is of the opinion that, as we are such a
small group (small fish in a big pond) and there are other, more important
battles to fight in corporate America today, this one is not worth fighting.
He bought his own laptop rather than deal with them. I guess that I'm a
little too stubborn to give up now <g>. As long as I can get it to do what I
need it to do, I'll continue on as is. For the most part, I'm finding way
around the restrictions (once again, being careful not to compromise
security). Actually, a month ago, the corporate computers got infected by
the worm, my laptop did not.
Again, I appreciate your responses, and your position on the matter.

TCR

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