Hide XP partition to install Vista?

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Peter Geddes

I'd like to dual boot between XP & Vista but I'm not sure if I need to hide
partitions or not.

XP is on a Primary partition and I will create another Primary partition for
Vista (on the same disk). Do I need to make the Vista partition active and
hide the XP partition before the install? I don't want Vista seeing the XP
partition and vice versa.

Does the Vista boot manager hide other primary partitions whilst active?

Thanks
 
G

~~GC~~

No need to hide the xp partition,
install vista and after the final reboot you will be asked witch version,
xp or vista, you want to start up, easy .
Thats the way it workd on my pc.
succes
 
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Peter Geddes

Will the XP partition be visible in Vista, i.e. get it it's own drive
letter? That's what I don't want!

Thanks for the reply.

~~GC~~ said:
No need to hide the xp partition,
install vista and after the final reboot you will be asked witch version,
xp or vista, you want to start up, easy .
Thats the way it workd on my pc.
succes
 
J

John Inzer

Peter said:
Will the XP partition be visible in Vista, i.e. get it it's own drive
letter? That's what I don't want!

Thanks for the reply.
========================
Yes, the Vista partition can be
accessed from the XP partition.
On my system I can copy files from
one partition to the other.

As for drive letters...if you install
Vista by booting from the disk...
it will be installed on Drive C:.

I'm running a dual boot of Vista
Home Premium and XP Pro and
and each one is installed on Drive
C:.

The following links were useful to
me...maybe they will be worth a look:

You may need to reduce the size of
your Primary Active partition to create
some unallocated space.

I used Acronis Disk Director Suite 10
to accomplish this but there are other
options such as the app. mentioned
in the following article.

How to dual-boot Vista with XP -
step-by-step guide with screenshots
http://tinyurl.com/ysh8hy

Gnome Partition Editor
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

Once you have the unallocated space
available...you may need to enter your
BIOS and change the boot order so
you can boot from the Vista disk. From
that point just follow the onscreen
instructions.

The following links may be useful also:

Dual-Booting Vista and XP
http://www.windowstalk.org/dual_boot_vista.htm

Dual-Booting Vista and XP (Part 2)
http://www.windowstalk.org/dual_boot_part2.htm

VistaBootPRO
http://www.vistabootpro.org/index.php



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Digital Image MVP

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This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
 
J

John Inzer

BTW...when I boot to the Vista partition...
Vista is installed on Drive C:.

When I boot to the XP partition...Vista is
on Drive F:.

--
John Inzer
MS Picture It! -
Digital Image MVP

Digital Image
Highlights and FAQs
http://tinyurl.com/aczzp

Notice
This is not tech support
I am a volunteer

Solutions that work for
me may not work for you

Proceed at your own risk
==============================
 
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pete

Then you will need to buy another drive.....disconnect the XP drive and
install Vista onto the new drive.Each time you start the system you will
have to decide which drive to use as the boot drive.
This is not a dual boot......seperate drives....seperate boots.You can do
this by entering the BIOS each time you start.
My Mobo BIOS allows me to press F12 to show a boot screen where I can decide
which HD to boot from...can yours??
This is also easier to change to Vista only boot once you decide thats what
you wish..or vice versa.
peter
Peter Geddes said:
Will the XP partition be visible in Vista, i.e. get it it's own drive
letter? That's what I don't want!

Thanks for the reply.
 
P

Peter Geddes

Looks like I will have to change the drive letters in Vista.

Would a seperate Boot Manager do the trick?

Thanks for the replies.
 
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John Barnett MVP

I dual boot with Xp and Vista. All you need do is install XP first (which i
assume you already have this installed). Next create another partition on
the same drive (or another drive if you have one) and then install Vista.
After installation, when you reboot the machine, you will have a menu appear
giving you the option to boot into Vista or XP.

As has already been mentioned when you are using XP then XP takes the C:
drive letter and Vista becomes D: (or whatever letter it has assigned)
conversely when you boot into Vista, Vista takes the C: drive letter and XP
becomes D etc.

The only major problem is XP's shadow copy facility. When you boot into XP
windows XP will immediately delete 'all' system restore points created in
Windows Vista ( i believe it also deletes shadow copy files for Complete PC
Backup if you are using a version of Vista that supports this, i.e,
Ultimate)

A third party boot manager should solve the problem of losing restore points
from Vista. Alternatively, if you are using Vista Ultimate or Business, you
could use Bitlocker encryption to prevent the restore points being lost.
Personally system restore is disabled on both my XP and Vista partition so
the thought of losing restore points ins't one that bothers me, but it may
bother you.

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Windows - Shell/User

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Peter Geddes

Yep, XP is my main OS and I installed Vista on a primary partition on the
same RAID disk. It made the XP partition D: as you said but this is a bit
inconvenient as this pushed my other partition drive letters up. I've got
used to the drive letters as they are with XP. That is why I want to hide
the XP partition in Vista so that they do stay the same. This might not be a
big deal but I can't change the XP partition drive letter (WIndows doesn't
allow it).

I don't use System Restore either - I use Ghost for backing up.

I haven't come across a Boot Manager compatible with Vista and allows
partition hiding yet!

Thanks for the reply.

John Barnett MVP said:
I dual boot with Xp and Vista. All you need do is install XP first (which i
assume you already have this installed). Next create another partition on
the same drive (or another drive if you have one) and then install Vista.
After installation, when you reboot the machine, you will have a menu
appear giving you the option to boot into Vista or XP.

As has already been mentioned when you are using XP then XP takes the C:
drive letter and Vista becomes D: (or whatever letter it has assigned)
conversely when you boot into Vista, Vista takes the C: drive letter and
XP becomes D etc.

The only major problem is XP's shadow copy facility. When you boot into XP
windows XP will immediately delete 'all' system restore points created in
Windows Vista ( i believe it also deletes shadow copy files for Complete
PC Backup if you are using a version of Vista that supports this, i.e,
Ultimate)

A third party boot manager should solve the problem of losing restore
points from Vista. Alternatively, if you are using Vista Ultimate or
Business, you could use Bitlocker encryption to prevent the restore points
being lost. Personally system restore is disabled on both my XP and Vista
partition so the thought of losing restore points ins't one that bothers
me, but it may bother you.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable
for any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out
of the use of, or inability to use, information or opinions expressed in
this mail/post..
 
J

John Barnett MVP

Ghost? If that's Norton Ghost i wouldn't touch it with a barge pole!

Hiding the partition was easy with TweakUI but it isn't Vista compatible
(well as far as i know). I've recently re-imaged my drives from a very
early backup and i haven't had time to re-install software to bring this
copy up to date ( i have a recent image but i wanted a copy without the
current software on - hence the 'old' copy), anyway take a look at totalidea
software and their tweakVI (www.totalidea.com). There is a review on my
website: http://vistasupport.mvps.org/tweakvi.htm There is a free version,
although i actually reviewed the Ultimate version. I'm sure there is an
option, similar to TweakUI, to hide partitions, but i'm not sure whether it
is available in the free version. If it is available in the free version,
you could install TweakVI onto Vista and then hide the XP partition. That
way you would not be able to access any files on the XP partition and you
also wouldn't be able to see the XP partition.

--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows - Shell/User

Web: http://xphelpandsupport.mvps.org
Web: http://vistasupport.mvps.org

The information in this mail/post is supplied "as is". No warranty of any
kind, either expressed or implied, is made in relation to the accuracy,
reliability or content of this mail/post. The Author shall not be liable for
any direct, indirect, incidental or consequential damages arising out of the
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Peter Geddes said:
Yep, XP is my main OS and I installed Vista on a primary partition on the
same RAID disk. It made the XP partition D: as you said but this is a bit
inconvenient as this pushed my other partition drive letters up. I've got
used to the drive letters as they are with XP. That is why I want to hide
the XP partition in Vista so that they do stay the same. This might not be
a big deal but I can't change the XP partition drive letter (WIndows
doesn't allow it).

I don't use System Restore either - I use Ghost for backing up.

I haven't come across a Boot Manager compatible with Vista and allows
partition hiding yet!

Thanks for the reply.
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

I don't think it's feasible to hide the XP partition from Vista
because Vista typically places some critical boot files on the
XP partition.

Incidentally, if you start a Vista install by opening the Vista DVD
from within XP, then no drive letters get swapped.

Gary VanderMolen
 

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