Hibernate or sleep

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Guest

Hi, I also have this problem. I have switched the hibernation feature off as
I was sick of having to turn my computer off at the power point. The on/off
button will not work when my computer goes into this mode and nor will
anything elso. I keep getting told about the amazing amount of power you can
save using this mode and would love to know how to get it to work correctly.
Any solutions would be great. Thanks
 
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Guest

helen and Don,
I'm having the same trouble. I walk away for 10 minutes, the machine goes
to s;eep and never wakes up. I've tried the mouse, the keyboard, nothing
works. I've even shut off the monitor and turned it back on but it says it's
not gettinga signal then it goes to sleep. I have to hold the power button
in to shut the computer off, then when i turn it back on I get the fatal
error message/blue screen of death. I've been trying to remember to shut
down the computer after every use but I'm used to leaving it on during the
day and I don't always remember. I need help too!
 
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Michael Walraven

If you have to hold the power button in for several seconds then the machine
has NOT finished going to sleep.

For first test turn off your screen saver (set to NONE) see if it goes into
sleep now.
Also will the machine go to sleep when told to manually? (start orb, the
'broken circle with line thru the top')

Michel
 
C

Chris Blunt

If your machine is in hibernation then almost all power is off, nothing your
do with a keyboard or mouse that is turned off is going to do anything. On a
tower only pressing the power button to turn the power back on will have any
effect.

What you say sounds logical, but that doesn't seem to be the way it
works on my system. After hibernating, my tower appears to completely
power off, the fans stop running and all the lights go out. However, I
can still wake up the system by using the keyboard or mouse. I can
only guess that the motherboard somehow keeps monitoring the USB ports
that these devices are connected to even when everything else is
powered down.

Chris
 
G

Guest

Hi All,

Recently i had run the disk clean up on Windows Vista Laptop.
After Clean i am not able to find the Hibernate Option.
What can i do to restore it.
 
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DevilsPGD

In message <[email protected]> Chris Blunt
What you say sounds logical, but that doesn't seem to be the way it
works on my system. After hibernating, my tower appears to completely
power off, the fans stop running and all the lights go out. However, I
can still wake up the system by using the keyboard or mouse. I can
only guess that the motherboard somehow keeps monitoring the USB ports
that these devices are connected to even when everything else is
powered down.

Does the same apply after shutting down?

Even if not, hibernation may not be 100% identical to powered off at the
hardware level, my laptop will resume from hibernation when it's opened,
but not from powered-off.

However, power can be safety disconnected (including battery) from
hibernate, and the power light is off, not showing the standby colour.
 
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Max

Run Command Prompt as Administrator.
Type:
powercfg -h on
Press enter. Close Command Prompt window.
In the future, when running disk cleanup, uncheck Hibernation in the options
to prevent this from happening.
 
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Michael Walraven

Chris,

Are you sure that you are actually hibernating? Default for Vista is sleep
mode with hybrid hibernate.
I just confirmed that on my system (Dell XPS410, Vista Home premium)
hibernate will not wake from mouse or keyboard. (connection is PS2 rather
than USB on your machine however).

When resuming from hibernate I see the BIOS startup screen then a windows
screen with 'resuming' bar running along bottom of screen. Waking from sleep
just puts me back to where I was without the BIOS and 'resuming screens.

There seem to be several people reporting having problems getting their
systems to wake, none of them are getting back to report if they are getting
their problem fixed or if more help is needed so cannot say if any of my
advise on the subject is way off or helping.

I will have to check my bios and see if I can borrow a USB keyboard and see
if there is a wake machine option on my Dell for keyboard that way.

Michael
 
C

Chris Blunt

Chris,

Are you sure that you are actually hibernating? Default for Vista is sleep
mode with hybrid hibernate.
I just confirmed that on my system (Dell XPS410, Vista Home premium)
hibernate will not wake from mouse or keyboard. (connection is PS2 rather
than USB on your machine however).

I'm fairly sure it really is hibernating. Under the "Power Options"
settings "Allow hybrid sleep" is set to "Off". Also, after telling the
system to hibernate there are a few minutes of continuous disk
activity before the fans stop and the LEDs finally go out, so it
certainly looks as if its writing the system out to disk, as you would
expect in a true hibernation.

If just tried changing the "Allow hybrid sleep" setting to "On", and
in that case the "Hibernate" option disappears completely from the
shutdown menu options.

When resuming from hibernate I see the BIOS startup screen then a windows
screen with 'resuming' bar running along bottom of screen. Waking from sleep
just puts me back to where I was without the BIOS and 'resuming screens.

That's exactly what I see on this system after resuming from hibernate
and sleep. I've checked once again, and can confirm I can definitely
resume from hibernation by hitting a key on the keyboard.
 
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Michael Walraven

Chris,
Thanks very much for your information. I looked in my BIOS and can only find
startup options for the NIC (on motherboard).

The power operations of Vista are vastly improved over what I had in XP. I
am not sure how much that is from improved software and how much from
improved hardware/BIOS on the newer machines that have the Vista.

I currently have the 'Allow hybrid sleep' ON in my machine so that if the
machine is sleeping, and power fails, and my UPS runs out of power, (I AM
NOT paranoid) then I don't lose anything.

Michael
 
G

Guest

Ya, I tried that last night. I clicked on the sleep button, it powered down,
the power light turned orange on both the computer and monitor (I just bought
this HP a6203w a few weeks ago) and I waited about a minute before moving the
mouse. The power light on both turned blue again but the monitor said it
wasn't getting a signal and went back to sleep. That's when I have to hold
in the power button to get the computer to shut off because pushing the
keyboard and mouse buttons does nothing. When it starts back up it says
"restarting wiindows" but then the blue error screen comes up and I shut it
off. I've tried letting it sit to see if it boots up, but it never does so I
shut it off by the power button again. If I let it sit a couple hours it
restarts fine after that.
 
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Michael Walraven

Whoops, I missed the part about moving the mouse starts things going again,
so it does appear to be the waking that is the problem rather than the going
to sleep. Sorry about that.

I can only offer some generic advice...

Check with HP site for BIOS upgrades. My Dell is fairly new but have had two
upgrades to the BIOS, one said it improved 'power management'.

Check with the Vista update site for a couple of optional reliability
enhancement updates, they are not 'security' updates so are not
automatically installed. I believe there was some 'power' issues resolved by
those updates.

Disable all startup programs, close all running programs and see if you can
sleep/wake with them off.

Check with HP/vender for updates to your video card, some people reported
power problems that were cured that way.

Check the 'Event Viewer' sometimes it actually has enough information in the
'error' section to be helpful.

In the Device Manager for your network card, make sure that under the power
management tab that Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power
is checked.

Michael
Vista Home Premium Dell XPS410
 
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Guest

There is a (lesser known) hotfix KB941600 which is helpful in foll cases:
When the computer resumes from a suspend state or from a hibernation state,
the computer stops responding; or The computer takes a long time to resume
from a suspend state or from a hibernation state, etc. This update is not
available through WindowsUpdates. Download for 32bit :
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...5A-EB6B-40E3-AE83-5200B7EF497B&displaylang=en

More at http://www.winvistaclub.com/t27.html

Try it and see if it helps resolve 'coming back from' issues.

http://www.WinVistaClub.com
 
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Guest

I am wondering this about the power options in Vista. It seemed on my XP
laptop that standby would "seat" the harddrive arm and turn off everything,
just giving juice to the RAM, but in Vista Sleep seems to be just a more
intense screensaver, none of my LED lights go off or flash, and the disk
drive light is constantly flashing indicating hard drive access, which would
not be good if I tried to move it. Just wondering if my only option is to
Hibernate everytime I want to move the laptop, because before in XP I would
do standby and be fine moving it from room to room.
 

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