Help getting XP to boot with new motherboard


G

Guest

My power supply fried last week and took my motherboard with. Since it was an
older motherboard I could not get an exact replacement so I get a board with
the closest chipset that I could. When I tried to boot the existing hard
drive build to the new motherboard, the system freezes after all the drivers
load but before the login screen is shown ( the Windows startup display is
up). Is there a way to fix this short of a full reinstall. Here are the specs:

Old Motherboard:
ASROCK K7VM2 (Specs page: http://www.amptron.com/html/ASrock_K7VM2spec.html)
Main Chipset VIA KT266 (Northbridge) and VIA8235 (Southbridge)
Supports AMD Duron, Athlon, AthlonXP CPUs
Supports 266MHz Front-Side Bus speeds
Socket 462 motherboard
* Do not try to install a Socket 370/423 processor in the Socket-462. A
Socket 370 processor such as the Pentium III, or Celeron, does not fit in the
Socket 462.
Memory Support
2 DDR DIMM sockets and 2 DIMM sockets support (CAN NOT be used at the same
time)
Two 184-pin 2.5V DDR* (Double Date Rate) SDRAM DDR266 (PC2100) or
Two 168-pin 3.3V SDRAM (PC133/PC100)
Maximum installed memory is 2GB
* DDR SDRAM provides 800MBps or 1 GBps data transfer depending on whether
the bus is 100MHz or 133MHz. It doubles the rate to 1.6 GBps and 2.1 GBps by
transferring data on both the rising and falling edges of the clock. DDR
SDRAM uses additional power and ground lines and requires 184-pin 2.5V
unbuffered DIMM module rather than the 168-pin 3.3V unbuffered DIMMs used by
SDRAM. * DDR DIMM Manufacture List
Onboard VGA & AGP 4X slot
Integrated ProSavage8 Gfx graphic system, with 32MB memory shared as frame
buffer
4X Accelerated Graphic Port, with Latch to securely fasten AGP Graphic Card
Compliant most AGP 2.0 and PCI 2.2 specification
USB 2.0
Compliant with Universal Serial Bus Specification Revision 2.0
Compliant with Intel's Enhanced Host Controller Interface Specification
Revision 0.95
Compliant with Universal Host Controller Interface Specification Revision
1.1
PCI multi-function device consists of two UHCI HOST Controller cores for
full-/low-speed signaling and one EHCI Host Controller core for high-speed
signaling
Root hub consists 4 downstream facing ports with integrated physical layer
transceivers shared by UHCI and EHCI Host controller
Support PCI-Bus Power Management Interface Specification release 1.1
Legacy support for all downstream facing ports
Expansion Slots
One AGP 2.0 compliant 4X AGP slot
3 X 32-bit PCI slots for PCI 2.2 compliant bus interface
One AMR slot
Enhanced IDE Controller
Primary and Secondary IDE channels
Supports PIO (programmable input/output) modes 0 -4
Supports Multiword DMA modes
Supports UltraDMA 133/100/66/33 and BUS mastering
Power Supply and Power Management
ATX power supply connector
Meets ACPI 1.0b and APM 1.2 requirements, keyboard power/ and legacy PMU
support
Supports Suspend switch, keyboard power on/off
Supports Wake on LAN, Wake on Modem, and Wake on Alarm
Onboard Sound System
AC97 specification compliant
Three Audio Jacks - Line-Out, Line-In and Microphone-In
Onboard LAN s
Built-in 10 BaseT/100BaseTX Ethernet LAN
Supports Wake On LAN
In compliance with ACPI 1.0 and the Network Device Class Power Management
1.0
High Performance achieved by 100Mbps clock generator and data recovery
circuit for 100Mbps receiver
Onboard I/O Ports
One Parallel port
One Serial port
One MIDI/Game port
SIX USB 2.0 ports (FOUR back-panel ports, 1 USB headers providing four extra
ports)
Two PS/2 ports
One audio jack for Microphone, Line-in, and Line-out
One infrared port connector for the optional module
Onboard Flash ROM (BIOS)
AMI 2MB BIOS flash ROM
CPU parameters and memory timing

New Motherboard:
PC Chips M811 (Spec page:
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Pr...LanID=2&DetailID=235&DetailName=Specification)
CPU Socket A for AMD K7 CPU
FSB 266/200MHz
Chipset KT266A/8235
Memory 2 x 184-pin DIMM sockets support two 2.5V DDR SDRAMs (DDR266/200)
Maximum: 2GB
Expansion Slots 1 x AGP 4X
5 x PCI
1 x CNR slot
LAN VIA VT6103 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY
Audio VIA VT1612A 2-channel audio Codec
Compliant with AC97 2.2 specification
IDE 2 x UltraDMA 133/100
Back Panel I/O Ports 1 x PS/2 keyboard
1 x PS/2 mouse
1 x Parallel Port
1 x Serial Port
4 x USB 2.0 Ports
1 x RJ 45 Port
1 x Audio I/O (Line-in, Line-out and Mic-in)
Internal I/O Connectors & Headers 20-pin ATX power supply connector
1 x Floppy connector-support 360K~2.88M Byte, 3 Mode FDDs or LS120
1 x Speaker header
1 x USB card reader header
1 x USB header support additional 2 USB2.0 ports
1 x Front panel switch/LED header
1 x CD in header
CPU / CAS FAN headers
1 x Front panel audio header
System BIOS AMI 2Mb Flash EEPROM
Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI
Full support for ACPI revision 1.0 specification
Form Factor ATX Form Factor, 305*190mm
 
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J

Jim Macklin

Do a repair install, remove printers and other attached
devices. Make sure the BIOS is set to boot the CD and start
the computer with the CD in the drive. Select to install
Windows and select to install in the same drive/partition.
It will retain your settings but load the correct drivers
for the new mobo/CPU. You will then have to reactivate
which will work on-line. Then run Windows [Microsoft ]
Update and then install your printer and other devices.


"Zathras" <ZathrasOne2001(AT)Yahoo(DOT)com> wrote in message
| My power supply fried last week and took my motherboard
with. Since it was an
| older motherboard I could not get an exact replacement so
I get a board with
| the closest chipset that I could. When I tried to boot the
existing hard
| drive build to the new motherboard, the system freezes
after all the drivers
| load but before the login screen is shown ( the Windows
startup display is
| up). Is there a way to fix this short of a full reinstall.
Here are the specs:
|
| Old Motherboard:
| ASROCK K7VM2 (Specs page:
http://www.amptron.com/html/ASrock_K7VM2spec.html)
| Main Chipset VIA KT266 (Northbridge) and VIA8235
(Southbridge)
| Supports AMD Duron, Athlon, AthlonXP CPUs
| Supports 266MHz Front-Side Bus speeds
| Socket 462 motherboard
| * Do not try to install a Socket 370/423 processor in the
Socket-462. A
| Socket 370 processor such as the Pentium III, or Celeron,
does not fit in the
| Socket 462.
| Memory Support
| 2 DDR DIMM sockets and 2 DIMM sockets support (CAN NOT be
used at the same
| time)
| Two 184-pin 2.5V DDR* (Double Date Rate) SDRAM DDR266
(PC2100) or
| Two 168-pin 3.3V SDRAM (PC133/PC100)
| Maximum installed memory is 2GB
| * DDR SDRAM provides 800MBps or 1 GBps data transfer
depending on whether
| the bus is 100MHz or 133MHz. It doubles the rate to 1.6
GBps and 2.1 GBps by
| transferring data on both the rising and falling edges of
the clock. DDR
| SDRAM uses additional power and ground lines and requires
184-pin 2.5V
| unbuffered DIMM module rather than the 168-pin 3.3V
unbuffered DIMMs used by
| SDRAM. * DDR DIMM Manufacture List
| Onboard VGA & AGP 4X slot
| Integrated ProSavage8 Gfx graphic system, with 32MB memory
shared as frame
| buffer
| 4X Accelerated Graphic Port, with Latch to securely fasten
AGP Graphic Card
| Compliant most AGP 2.0 and PCI 2.2 specification
| USB 2.0
| Compliant with Universal Serial Bus Specification Revision
2.0
| Compliant with Intel's Enhanced Host Controller Interface
Specification
| Revision 0.95
| Compliant with Universal Host Controller Interface
Specification Revision
| 1.1
| PCI multi-function device consists of two UHCI HOST
Controller cores for
| full-/low-speed signaling and one EHCI Host Controller
core for high-speed
| signaling
| Root hub consists 4 downstream facing ports with
integrated physical layer
| transceivers shared by UHCI and EHCI Host controller
| Support PCI-Bus Power Management Interface Specification
release 1.1
| Legacy support for all downstream facing ports
| Expansion Slots
| One AGP 2.0 compliant 4X AGP slot
| 3 X 32-bit PCI slots for PCI 2.2 compliant bus interface
| One AMR slot
| Enhanced IDE Controller
| Primary and Secondary IDE channels
| Supports PIO (programmable input/output) modes 0 -4
| Supports Multiword DMA modes
| Supports UltraDMA 133/100/66/33 and BUS mastering
| Power Supply and Power Management
| ATX power supply connector
| Meets ACPI 1.0b and APM 1.2 requirements, keyboard power/
and legacy PMU
| support
| Supports Suspend switch, keyboard power on/off
| Supports Wake on LAN, Wake on Modem, and Wake on Alarm
| Onboard Sound System
| AC97 specification compliant
| Three Audio Jacks - Line-Out, Line-In and Microphone-In
| Onboard LAN s
| Built-in 10 BaseT/100BaseTX Ethernet LAN
| Supports Wake On LAN
| In compliance with ACPI 1.0 and the Network Device Class
Power Management
| 1.0
| High Performance achieved by 100Mbps clock generator and
data recovery
| circuit for 100Mbps receiver
| Onboard I/O Ports
| One Parallel port
| One Serial port
| One MIDI/Game port
| SIX USB 2.0 ports (FOUR back-panel ports, 1 USB headers
providing four extra
| ports)
| Two PS/2 ports
| One audio jack for Microphone, Line-in, and Line-out
| One infrared port connector for the optional module
| Onboard Flash ROM (BIOS)
| AMI 2MB BIOS flash ROM
| CPU parameters and memory timing
|
| New Motherboard:
| PC Chips M811 (Spec page:
|
http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWeb/Pr...LanID=2&DetailID=235&DetailName=Specification)
| CPU Socket A for AMD K7 CPU
| FSB 266/200MHz
| Chipset KT266A/8235
| Memory 2 x 184-pin DIMM sockets support two 2.5V DDR
SDRAMs (DDR266/200)
| Maximum: 2GB
| Expansion Slots 1 x AGP 4X
| 5 x PCI
| 1 x CNR slot
| LAN VIA VT6103 10/100Mbps Fast Ethernet PHY
| Audio VIA VT1612A 2-channel audio Codec
| Compliant with AC97 2.2 specification
| IDE 2 x UltraDMA 133/100
| Back Panel I/O Ports 1 x PS/2 keyboard
| 1 x PS/2 mouse
| 1 x Parallel Port
| 1 x Serial Port
| 4 x USB 2.0 Ports
| 1 x RJ 45 Port
| 1 x Audio I/O (Line-in, Line-out and Mic-in)
| Internal I/O Connectors & Headers 20-pin ATX power
supply connector
| 1 x Floppy connector-support 360K~2.88M Byte, 3 Mode FDDs
or LS120
| 1 x Speaker header
| 1 x USB card reader header
| 1 x USB header support additional 2 USB2.0 ports
| 1 x Front panel switch/LED header
| 1 x CD in header
| CPU / CAS FAN headers
| 1 x Front panel audio header
| System BIOS AMI 2Mb Flash EEPROM
| Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, APM 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI
| Full support for ACPI revision 1.0 specification
| Form Factor ATX Form Factor, 305*190mm
|
 
L

LVTravel

You will need to do a repair install of the OS. Boot to the Windows XP CD
and follow the instructions on screen to perform a repair install. Here's a
web site to help you through a repair install
http://michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Hope that your original CD is not bios locked to the old motherboard and
that you have a regular XP (retail or OEM) CD and not a rebuild CD. If you
have a rebuild CD you will probably have to purchase XP again since the
rebuild CD has the original motherboard drivers on it and can't be used for
a repair install.
 
A

Al Dykes

Do a repair install, remove printers and other attached
devices. Make sure the BIOS is set to boot the CD and start
the computer with the CD in the drive. Select to install
Windows and select to install in the same drive/partition.
It will retain your settings but load the correct drivers
for the new mobo/CPU. You will then have to reactivate
which will work on-line. Then run Windows [Microsoft ]
Update and then install your printer and other devices.

So assume I've got a PC that only has a recovery disk.

Can I use any genuine Microsoft CD or slipstreamed CD that is the same
SP level?
 
B

Bruce Chambers

Zathras said:
My power supply fried last week and took my motherboard with. Since it was an
older motherboard I could not get an exact replacement so I get a board with
the closest chipset that I could. When I tried to boot the existing hard
drive build to the new motherboard, the system freezes after all the drivers
load but before the login screen is shown ( the Windows startup display is
up). Is there a way to fix this short of a full reinstall. Here are the specs:


Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific chipset and therefore *not*
transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless
the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE
controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP
installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair
(a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.


--

Bruce Chambers

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B

Bruce Chambers

Al said:
So assume I've got a PC that only has a recovery disk.


Then you'll have to perform a clean installation; Recovery CDs cannot
be used to perform repair installations. And it may not work at all, if
the Recovery CD is BIOS-locked to the old motherboard.

Can I use any genuine Microsoft CD or slipstreamed CD that is the same
SP level?

Not any CD, but you should be able to use a generic, unbranded OEM CD
along with your original Product Key. Product Keys are bound to license
types, not specific CDs.



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Bruce Chambers

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