Help: *Free* Apps that Work

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Darren Harris

I really need apps that will get rid of "adware" and "trackers", and
the programs I've tried have not worked.

It seems that the recommendations here are not for really "free" apps,
or I need to install or upgrade to something else in order to get any
real benefits.

For Anti-Virus and Firewall I've been using Stinger(As well as going
to the Trendmicro site), and Sygate, and would appreciate better
recommendations for *free* apps that work and don't tend to screw up
the systems they are installed on.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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dadiOH

Darren said:
I really need apps that will get rid of "adware" and "trackers", and
the programs I've tried have not worked.

It would help to know what you have tried.

AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy are both free, both work well.

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John Corliss

dadiOH said:
It would help to know what you have tried.
AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy are both free, both work well.

That's right. I just cleaned a friend's computer of 18 Trojans (his
roommate was surfing porn sites without a firewall or W98SE updates
via a default configured Internet Explorer ver. 5) using those two
programs plus "A Squared":

http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/download/

and AVG:

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

However, before running any of those I ran CWShredder:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4086.html

This removes the notorious CoolWebSearch Trojan for the most part. I
say that because you should note the reference on the bottom of that
page to the CoolWWWSearch.SmartKiller (v1/v2) varient and the tool for
removing it first.
 
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Dick Kistler

Darren Harris said:
I really need apps that will get rid of "adware" and "trackers", and
the programs I've tried have not worked.

It seems that the recommendations here are not for really "free" apps,
or I need to install or upgrade to something else in order to get any
real benefits.

For Anti-Virus and Firewall I've been using Stinger(As well as going
to the Trendmicro site), and Sygate, and would appreciate better
recommendations for *free* apps that work and don't tend to screw up
the systems they are installed on.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Free Apps that work, let me see.... How about:
http://www.pricelessware.org/thelist/index.htm

Particularly the Security and Internet Selections.

Dick Kistler
 
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dfrog

John Corliss said:
That's right. I just cleaned a friend's computer of 18 Trojans (his
roommate was surfing porn sites without a firewall or W98SE updates via a
default configured Internet Explorer ver. 5) using those two programs plus
"A Squared":

http://www.emsisoft.com/en/software/download/

and AVG:

http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.php/doc/2/

However, before running any of those I ran CWShredder:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4086.html

This removes the notorious CoolWebSearch Trojan for the most part. I say
that because you should note the reference on the bottom of that page to
the CoolWWWSearch.SmartKiller (v1/v2) varient and the tool for removing it
first.

--
Regards from John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.

john,

am I missing something?
having just read your post I have again downloaded v 1.59.1 CWShredder from
majorgeeks, and when I try to update it I get 'an unable to' from
merijn.com, and it just sits there at spywareinfo.com, does nothing. I was
under the impression that it should be updated before use, and so many
people recomend it's use I feel it's got to be me that's still got my dark
glasses on.

dfrog
 
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Mark Warner

dfrog said:
am I missing something?
having just read your post I have again downloaded v 1.59.1
CWShredder from majorgeeks, and when I try to update it I get 'an
unable to' from merijn.com, and it just sits there at
spywareinfo.com, does nothing. I was under the impression that it
should be updated before use, and so many people recomend it's use I
feel it's got to be me that's still got my dark glasses on.

Merjin suspended development of CWShredder about a month ago. Version
1.59.1 is the last you'll see, I'm afraid. Nevertheless, it's still a
good tool to have in your arsenal.

At this point in time, I believe the Lavasoft (Ad-aware) people are
doing their level best to take up where he left off. However, I doubt
they'll be as quick to respond to new variants as Merjin was.
 
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privacy.at Anonymous Remailer

I really need apps that will get rid of "adware" and "trackers", and
the programs I've tried have not worked.

It seems that the recommendations here are not for really "free" apps,
or I need to install or upgrade to something else in order to get any
real benefits.

For Anti-Virus and Firewall I've been using Stinger(As well as going
to the Trendmicro site), and Sygate, and would appreciate better
recommendations for *free* apps that work and don't tend to screw up
the systems they are installed on.

Thanks a lot.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.

Look in alt.privacy.spyware
 
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John Corliss

Mark said:
Merjin suspended development of CWShredder about a month ago. Version
1.59.1 is the last you'll see, I'm afraid. Nevertheless, it's still a
good tool to have in your arsenal.

At this point in time, I believe the Lavasoft (Ad-aware) people are
doing their level best to take up where he left off. However, I doubt
they'll be as quick to respond to new variants as Merjin was.

Thanks Mark, you took the words right out of my mouth. And the fact
that CWShredder isn't being updated (Merjin was subjected to
"sustained DOS attacks" from what I understand) is why I recommended
running the CoolWWWSearch.SmartKiller varient remover first, *then*
CWShredder and *then* the other programs (including Ad-Aware).

More info about why Merjin suspended development of the tool is here:

http://www.theregister.com/2004/06/29/cws_shredder/
 
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dfrog

Mark Warner said:
Merjin suspended development of CWShredder about a month ago. Version
1.59.1 is the last you'll see, I'm afraid. Nevertheless, it's still a
good tool to have in your arsenal.

At this point in time, I believe the Lavasoft (Ad-aware) people are
doing their level best to take up where he left off. However, I doubt
they'll be as quick to respond to new variants as Merjin was.


Thanks for that Mark
dfrog
 
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dfrog

John Corliss said:
Thanks Mark, you took the words right out of my mouth. And the fact that
CWShredder isn't being updated (Merjin was subjected to "sustained DOS
attacks" from what I understand) is why I recommended running the
CoolWWWSearch.SmartKiller varient remover first, *then* CWShredder and
*then* the other programs (including Ad-Aware).

More info about why Merjin suspended development of the tool is here:

http://www.theregister.com/2004/06/29/cws_shredder/

--
Regards from John Corliss
No adware, cdware, commercial software, crippleware, demoware, nagware,
shareware, spyware, time-limited software, trialware, viruses or warez
please.

Thanks for repeating your advice for me John, I'll take it this time.
dfrog
 
J

John Corliss

dfrog said:
Thanks for repeating your advice for me John, I'll take it this time.
dfrog

I hope you get things cleared up. Trojans are a real pain in the a**.
 
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Darren Harris

My system has "Windows ME", but all this has become academic, because
for the second consecutive time my system has turned into a giant
paperweight because I couldn't get it fixed in time.

Now I have two systems with important info on them that I cannot
access.

The most recent one this thread concerns has "Windows ME", and
exhibits control problems. The mouse cursor might move several inches
after I first boot up, but then it freezes, and the keyboard also
refuses to respond, so I have to re-boot again, but the same thing
happens.I was actually using the system to research how to get my
first one back up and running.(And I put a couple hundred man-hours
into that problem alone).

So now I'm typing this from the public library, and will have to get a
third system so I can get back on-line and attempt to do some research
on why my latest problem. :-(

Though I'm sure it probably is all that tracking software and adware
that I've been having difficulty getting rid of.

P.S: "Spybot Search & Destroy" was useless(but I have to get my system
back up and on the net to give any details.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 
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Dick Kistler

Darren said:
My system has "Windows ME", but all this has become academic, because
for the second consecutive time my system has turned into a giant
paperweight because I couldn't get it fixed in time.

I don't understand this statement. Why is "time" a factor. If you are
getting spyware it is "behavior" that is causing it.
Now I have two systems with important info on them that I cannot
access.

To recover your data, follow the recommendations here:
http://cquirke.mvps.org/pccrisis.htm
Don't rule out that it may be a hardware problem.

Consider using a Maintenance Operating System to scan and clean your Hard
Drives
http://cquirke.mvps.org/whatmos.htm.
The most recent one this thread concerns has "Windows ME", and
exhibits control problems. The mouse cursor might move several inches
after I first boot up, but then it freezes, and the keyboard also
refuses to respond, so I have to re-boot again, but the same thing
happens.I was actually using the system to research how to get my
first one back up and running.(And I put a couple hundred man-hours
into that problem alone).

So now I'm typing this from the public library, and will have to get a
third system so I can get back on-line and attempt to do some research
on why my latest problem. :-(

This sounds risky to me. If you don't know why you have a problem, what
will keep you from doing the same thing again in the name of "research?"

Before risking another system, make sure you have Antivirus, Firewall,
Antispyware software. Use a Hosts file, IE Restricted sites(IE Spyad).

And stay away from sites that distribute spyware.
Though I'm sure it probably is all that tracking software and adware
that I've been having difficulty getting rid of.

How do you know this? What have you done?
P.S: "Spybot Search & Destroy" was useless(but I have to get my system
back up and on the net to give any details.

Why was it useless? Did it run? Did it find anything? Did it remove
anything?
Did it say that it found something and couldn't remove it?

There are tools that can be used in cases where Spybot and Adaware don't
help.
Hijack This! is one. However, the best option may be to rebuild your system
after recovering what data you can.


Hope this helps.

Dick Kistler
 
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BillR

dadiOH said:
It would help to know what you have tried.

AdAware and Spybot Search & Destroy are both free, both work well.

If you do get on-line, you can _also_ try

* www.trojanscan.com <http://www.trojanscan.com> (which has moved but is
still GFI),

* www.pestscan.com <http://www.pestscan.com> (scan only; very fast;
sometimes overly aggressive; links to manual removal instructions that
appear to be deliberately obfuscated by combining specific removal
instructions for several pests so that instructions are unnecessarily
complex), and

* Yahoo toolbar with spyware scanner (which does remove spyware but is also
somewhat prone to false positives -- I have at least two and am
investigating several more that I suspect are false positives).

In addition to

* firewall and

* real-time antivirus (avast!, AVG, and Antivir) and

* ad hoc backup antivirus (previous or F-prot, BitDefender, or Antidote) and

* possibly an on-line scan (Panda, Symantec Norton, etc..), be sure to
include

* a registry monitor (WinPatrol, WinSonar, Spybot's TeaTimer, etc.).

www.Pricelessware.org <http://www.Pricelessware.org> or
www.PricelesswareHome.org <http://www.PricelesswareHome.org> have links to
most of the products mentioned. Security recommendations are likely to be of
special interest to you.

Without intending any offense, if you've spent hundreds of hours trying to
get your PCs back on-line, I suspect you are going about it the wrong way.
Perhaps you could check to see if there is a local computer club in your
area that holds regular meetings. They can be a great resource for ideas and
even help. If nothing else, someone is likely to be willing to create a CD
or two with the core freeware security programs that you need to install
before you connect to the net again. Some ISPs, especially those supplying
broadband services, include a free antivirus, firewall, or other security /
privacy programs. For example, Verizon DSL provides McAfee VirusScan and
firewall for free; Earthlink provides a free spyware scanner; Microsoft
provides a link to a commercial antivirus and firewall package available for
free for one year..

With or without help, instead of compromising another system, perhaps you
should start over with a clean install on a new primary drive (boot drive)
and install a few core programs of known provenance from CDs, floppies,
zips, or LAN -- i.e., not by logging on to the Internet. If your library
supports it, you can use floppies for smaller programs and perhaps even CDs.
(My local libraries only allow writing downloads directly to floppies so I'm
limited to 720 mb. I can't even use a splitter on a larger program. One
librarian was kind enough to download a disk recovery program to a zip disk
once.)

After you have installed the appropriate SECURITY software (firewall,
registry monitor, hopefully antivirus), you can go on-line and obtain what
ever else you need from reliable sources. Start with the most recent updates
to your OS and the security software you already have installed.

Once you have a new working system, back up the new working system on
CD/DVD. I assume you have some kind of burner or tape backup. Copy
everything from your original drive to backup. TEST your backup!

Then salvage your files (your docs, your addressbook, your databases, your
email, etc.) from your old drive(s). If you need something right away,
salvage just that sooner but leave the rest until now. Once you have
recovered your important data and backed up the new pristine configuration,
the recovered data, and the original disk, you can overwrite your old
(presumably larger / faster) disk and make that your new boot drive.

A "new primary drive" does not necessarily mean a newly purchased harddrive.
Perhaps you have one on an old machine that you are not using or that you ca
n temporarily free (e.g., you have a known good backup). Perhaps you have a
friend who will lend you one for a few days (but don't promise to return it
that soon). This does not need to be a huge drive. Two gigabits will do (6
for DVD), although 10 - 20 would be handy.

As mentioned elsewhere, try HijackThis once you have a system that you can
at least marginally use. The forum where you post results has an excellent
reputation for helping people with spyware problems. You are more likely to
get specific help if you have already done as much as possible. Try the
on-line virus, spyware, and trojan scanners. They won't remove the pest, but
once you identify the problem, you can usually find a solution for it.
McAfee, Symantec (Norton), BitDefender, Trend, and several other vendors
have various specialized tools that are free to download and use. McAfee's
Stinger may be the best known. It is revised frequently to remove the dozen
or so most common virus infections.

Good luck. I find these problems frustrating.

BillR
 
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Darren Harris

Why was it useless? Did it run? Did it find anything? Did it remove
anything?
Did it say that it found something and couldn't remove it?

There are tools that can be used in cases where Spybot and Adaware don't
help.
Hijack This! is one. However, the best option may be to rebuild your system
after recovering what data you can.


Yeah, rebuilding is exactly what I intend to do.

I finally got the apps working, as far as following all the steps, but
the end result was no change. I was still getting the pop-ups, as well
as other associated problems with tracking software.(Ad-Aware didn't
help either).

Then last week a new @#$%! toolbar appeared out of the blue, and it
couldn't be removed.

Darren Harris
Staten Island, New York.
 

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