Help!!!! Buying Visual studio .net

[Guest]

I am new to .net.
I'm looking into buying visual studio.net but not sure if I need to buy
whole package or I can buy individual visual basic.net, C#.net, J#.net...
The only difference I could find was, visual studio.net has SQL 2000 and
windows server 2003. I don't need these 'cause I already have it.
So my question is what's the advantage in buying Visual studio.net instead
of individual .net?
Thanks.

 

[Scott M.]

Visual Studio .NET does NOT come with SQL Server or Windows Server 2003.

You can buy the individual .NET languages separately or all together in
Visual Studio .NET. Just like you can by MS Word, Excel, PowerPoint and
Outlook separately or together as part of MS Office.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Scott.
If buying individual .net is same as buying visual studio.net then why so
much is in price difference? There should be something extra. Individual .net
is 109 and visual studio.net is 799 (professional special edition). Not sure
which one should I get.
I'm basically going to use it to build asp.net application. So does that
make any difference in buying the visual studio.net?

--Dishu

 

[Guest]

yes visual studio.net special edition does come with 2003 server and sql server
2000 and both are limited for development.
What you really need to do is this. If you are running iis server then all
you need is frontpage 2003 and you will find you can run all your scripts
against the iis server.
I did this for years with the old asp and coded some great internet apps.
if you want sql server then get the 2000 developer edition its cheap as
chips for
development. You don't need some of these giant killing tools, its like
using a sledge hammer to crack a nut

cheers

 

[Greg Burns]

Visual Studio .NET does NOT come with SQL Server or Windows Server 2003.

It does now (developer edition of SQL). Check out the Special Edition...

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/

Greg

 

[Guest]

Oh yeah nearly forgot, check out the new vis studio.net 2005 beta version for
down loading.they have several versions and one for web development. They are
stable but just check out the known issues and print them off just in case
you need em for the install

cheers

 

[Guest]

Yeah, I'm going to try VS.net 2005 beta version (since its free ) before I
decide on buying the software.

Thanks.

 

[John Timney \(ASP.NET MVP\)]

Remember too that the SDK is free, and there are some good tools that are
free out there for .net development.

VS.NET is a great tool if you can afford it - but if your trying to learn
then the beta will be enough if you have something to run it on, and you can
always develop against mySQL which is also free, or SQL Server express whihc
is in community preview http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/sql/. The new
tools allow you to be more tailored with the express series and visual web
developer and vb express, so you may not need a full blown vs.net
environment.

--
Regards

John Timney
ASP.NET MVP
Microsoft Regional Director

 

[Jim Hubbard]

If you are just trying to build an ASP.Net application, check out
Microsoft's FREE compiler for ASP.Net at
http://www.asp.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=1.

No trials.....no timeouts.....no $$$$.....just FREE.

Jim Hubbard

 

[Dino Chiesa [Microsoft]]

There's a free graphical development environment (tool) called WebMatrix
that allows you to build ASP.NET web apps .

The ASP.NET compiler is part of the ASP.NET runtime, which itself is
included in the .NET Framework .
All of those things are free too. You don't need WebMatrix to build .NET
apps. You can use a text editor, if you are handy with that. But Visual
Studio or another IDE like WebMatrix makes things much easier. Much much
easier.

-D

 

[Guest]

A side comment from Jim in Montana to "Dishu" and all other discussion
participants:

Dishu asked to very same question I have been researching for weeks, as all
I really need is the Visual Basic language. Microsoft seems to want to sell
their stuff, but they aren't too good at telling what you get (or don't get)
once you drop the $$$ down.

Hey, Microsoft! If you're listening, you might consider cutting back on the
hoky sales hype and giving your customers usable product comparisons and
detailed listings of what comes with a product. It would save everybody hours
and make us say nice things about you.

But, does Microsoft really think that holding back on good VisualStudio .NET
content data might lure more customer's into buying the full VS.NET
package--just to make sure they've got everything they need?

 

[Scott M.]

A simple search on Microsoft.com for "visual studio .net product comparison"
yields this as the first page returned:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/overview/academic/features/comparison.aspx

and at the bottom of that page there is this:
Feature comparison charts are also available for the stand-alone products
listed below. Explore how these stand-alone client tools compare with Visual
Studio .NET Professional.

a.. Microsoft Visual Basic .NET Standard vs. Visual Studio .NET
Professional
b.. Microsoft Visual C# .NET Standard vs. Visual Studio .NET Professional
c.. Microsoft Visual C++ .NET Standard vs. Visual Studio .NET Professional

It's easy to bash MS, but how about exercising a bit of personal initiative?