hello world program

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Neil Wallace

Hi,

Can anyone show me (or point me to a website) that will explain how to write
a "hello world" program for the pocket PC with the compact framework
installed?

I have visual studio.net 2003 standard edition which I now understand isn't
up to this - I don't wish to upgrade to the pro suite.

I have however been informed that it is possible to write and send such
application using the SDK alone.
Is this correct? If so, how is it done?

Is there an emulator in the SDK?

Neil.
 
C

Chris Tacke, eMVP

You must have Studio Pro or better. The SDK and emulator comes with Studio.
There's no supported mechanism for developing without it.
 
E

Ed Kaim

It shouldn't be misleading, and if it is then I'm sure Microsoft will want
to fix it. It says "applies to Microsoft Visual Studio® .NET 2003". All
versions of Visual Studio .NET 2003 (Pro, VSED, VSEA) support device
development.

However, Visual C# .NET 2003 Standard and Visual Basic .NET 2003 Standard
don't support device apps. If there is anywhere that Microsoft implies that
those products support device development, send feedback through the MSDN
links so it can be fixed.

Note that I'm not making an argument for or against having the device
features in the standard language SKUs or about the fact that standard
editions of the visual [language] products are branded in a consistent way
to the visual studio versions, which could result in confusion if not read
closely.
 
N

Neil Wallace

Thanks Ed.

it sure is misleading. By googling alone, I am staggered by the people who
appear to have had the same issues..... and that's only the ones who are
daft enough to shout about it... like myself.

It's the emperor's new clothes... you overlook something until your friends
point it out for you. Then you feel stupid.

In my defence, however, have a wee look at my startmenu.
http://www.invernessrowingclub.co.uk/neilswaffle/startup.jpg

does that look like visual studio to anyone else?

I don't think I am the first, nor will I be the last to misunderstand that
although installing and using VB.Net 2003 (which is part of Visual
Studio.net 2003... and appears as such in startmenus etc....) is a world
apart from being a bona-fide user of visual studio.net 2003.

I'm off to learn eMbedded C++ v4.0 whilst it is still free to do so, and
before microsoft designs an expensive development suite and makes it
obsolete.

Thanks one and all for responding, I'm glad to offload that one on someone.

Cheers

Neil.

Ed said:
It shouldn't be misleading, and if it is then I'm sure Microsoft will
want to fix it. It says "applies to Microsoft Visual Studio® .NET
2003". All versions of Visual Studio .NET 2003 (Pro, VSED, VSEA)
support device development.

However, Visual C# .NET 2003 Standard and Visual Basic .NET 2003
Standard don't support device apps. If there is anywhere that
Microsoft implies that those products support device development,
send feedback through the MSDN links so it can be fixed.

Note that I'm not making an argument for or against having the device
features in the standard language SKUs or about the fact that standard
editions of the visual [language] products are branded in a
consistent way to the visual studio versions, which could result in
confusion if not read closely.

Neil Wallace said:
Microsoft is seriously misleading customers on this issue.

Have a look at a page such as
http://msdn.microsoft.com/smartclie.../library/en-us/dnnetcomp/html/netcfgaming.asp

and tell me where it states "pro or better".

That is only one of a miriad of such resources.

Thanks for your time.

Neil.
 
E

Ed Kaim

Interesting--it probably shouldn't say Visual Studio. I didn't realize it
did that when you installed a Visual language product.

Neil Wallace said:
Thanks Ed.

it sure is misleading. By googling alone, I am staggered by the people who
appear to have had the same issues..... and that's only the ones who are
daft enough to shout about it... like myself.

It's the emperor's new clothes... you overlook something until your
friends point it out for you. Then you feel stupid.

In my defence, however, have a wee look at my startmenu.
http://www.invernessrowingclub.co.uk/neilswaffle/startup.jpg

does that look like visual studio to anyone else?

I don't think I am the first, nor will I be the last to misunderstand that
although installing and using VB.Net 2003 (which is part of Visual
Studio.net 2003... and appears as such in startmenus etc....) is a world
apart from being a bona-fide user of visual studio.net 2003.

I'm off to learn eMbedded C++ v4.0 whilst it is still free to do so, and
before microsoft designs an expensive development suite and makes it
obsolete.

Thanks one and all for responding, I'm glad to offload that one on
someone.

Cheers

Neil.

Ed said:
It shouldn't be misleading, and if it is then I'm sure Microsoft will
want to fix it. It says "applies to Microsoft Visual Studio® .NET
2003". All versions of Visual Studio .NET 2003 (Pro, VSED, VSEA)
support device development.

However, Visual C# .NET 2003 Standard and Visual Basic .NET 2003
Standard don't support device apps. If there is anywhere that
Microsoft implies that those products support device development,
send feedback through the MSDN links so it can be fixed.

Note that I'm not making an argument for or against having the device
features in the standard language SKUs or about the fact that standard
editions of the visual [language] products are branded in a
consistent way to the visual studio versions, which could result in
confusion if not read closely.

Neil Wallace said:
Microsoft is seriously misleading customers on this issue.

Have a look at a page such as
http://msdn.microsoft.com/smartclie.../library/en-us/dnnetcomp/html/netcfgaming.asp

and tell me where it states "pro or better".

That is only one of a miriad of such resources.

Thanks for your time.

Neil.



Chris Tacke, eMVP wrote:
You must have Studio Pro or better. The SDK and emulator comes with
Studio. There's no supported mechanism for developing without it.


Hi,

Can anyone show me (or point me to a website) that will explain how
to write a "hello world" program for the pocket PC with the compact
framework installed?

I have visual studio.net 2003 standard edition which I now
understand isn't up to this - I don't wish to upgrade to the pro
suite. I have however been informed that it is possible to write and
send
such application using the SDK alone.
Is this correct? If so, how is it done?

Is there an emulator in the SDK?

Neil.
 

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