HD about to quit??

T

Thomas Wendell

Or is it?
HDTune says on health page:

HD Tune: WDC WD2500JB-00GVC0 Health

ID Current Worst Threshold
Data Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 188 1 51 68
Failed
(03) Spin Up Time 130 124 21 6000
Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 40 53
Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 200 200 140 0
Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 200 200 51 0
Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 82 82 0 13723
Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 253 51 0
Ok
(0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 253 51 0
Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 40
Ok
(C2) Temperature 107 87 0
43 Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 200 200 0 0
Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 200 200 0 34
Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 200 200 0 21
Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0
Ok
(C8) Write Error Rate 200 191 51
24 Ok

Power On Time : 13723
Health Status : Failed


The drive is only a year and a half, but in the latest week or so has been
making a click noise (just one single click every ~10min)
It's been working OK, but that click had me look at SMART. Power is on
24/7, and unless I'm doing something, it runs BOINC


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C

Chris Hill

Or is it?
HDTune says on health page:

HD Tune: WDC WD2500JB-00GVC0 Health


Get wd's diagnostics to double-check. If it shows a problem, get
another drive. first thing's first, though, back up your data now!
 
T

Thomas Wendell

Chris said:
Get wd's diagnostics to double-check. If it shows a problem, get
another drive. first thing's first, though, back up your data now!

Oh, I do backup twice a week, full backup (image, Arconis TI) of 2 of the 4
partitions I have on that disk...
Will test with WD's diag..


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T

Thomas Wendell

Chris said:
Get wd's diagnostics to double-check. If it shows a problem, get
another drive. first thing's first, though, back up your data now!

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P

philo

Power On Time : 13723
Health Status : Failed


The drive is only a year and a half, but in the latest week or so has been
making a click noise (just one single click every ~10min)
It's been working OK, but that click had me look at SMART. Power is on
24/7, and unless I'm doing something, it runs BOINC


Back up your data *at once* then replace the drive!!!!
 
T

Thomas Wendell

Chris said:
Get wd's diagnostics to double-check. If it shows a problem, get
another drive. first thing's first, though, back up your data now!


WD lifeguard shows no anomalies...

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M

Michael Hawes

Thomas Wendell said:
Or is it?
HDTune says on health page:

HD Tune: WDC WD2500JB-00GVC0 Health

ID Current Worst Threshold
Data Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 188 1 51 68
Failed
(03) Spin Up Time 130 124 21
6000 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 40
53 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 200 200 140 0 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 200 200 51
0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 82 82 0 13723
Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 253 51
0 Ok
(0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 253 51 0
Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 40
Ok
(C2) Temperature 107 87 0 43
Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 200 200 0 0
Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 200 200 0 34
Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 200 200 0
21 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0 Ok
(C8) Write Error Rate 200 191 51 24
Ok

Power On Time : 13723
Health Status : Failed


The drive is only a year and a half, but in the latest week or so has been
making a click noise (just one single click every ~10min)
It's been working OK, but that click had me look at SMART. Power is on
24/7, and unless I'm doing something, it runs BOINC
Run WD diagnostic program! Keep your backups updated frequently.

Mike.
 
G

geoff

I've used WD's diagnostics and Segate but they are worthless.

It is pricey but SpinRite fixed any issues I had.

--g
 
T

Thomas Wendell

I did, and it reported no problems....

Michael said:
Run WD diagnostic program! Keep your backups updated frequently.

Mike.

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S

sdlomi2

Thomas Wendell said:
Or is it?
HDTune says on health page:

HD Tune: WDC WD2500JB-00GVC0 Health

ID Current Worst Threshold
Data Status
(01) Raw Read Error Rate 188 1 51 68
Failed
(03) Spin Up Time 130 124 21
6000 Ok
(04) Start/Stop Count 100 100 40
53 Ok
(05) Reallocated Sector Count 200 200 140 0 Ok
(07) Seek Error Rate 200 200 51
0 Ok
(09) Power On Hours Count 82 82 0 13723
Ok
(0A) Spin Retry Count 100 253 51
0 Ok
(0B) Calibration Retry Count 100 253 51 0
Ok
(0C) Power Cycle Count 100 100 0 40
Ok
(C2) Temperature 107 87 0 43
Ok
(C4) Reallocated Event Count 200 200 0 0
Ok
(C5) Current Pending Sector 200 200 0 34
Ok
(C6) Offline Uncorrectable 200 200 0
21 Ok
(C7) Ultra DMA CRC Error Count 200 253 0 0 Ok
(C8) Write Error Rate 200 191 51 24
Ok

Power On Time : 13723
Health Status : Failed


The drive is only a year and a half, but in the latest week or so has been
making a click noise (just one single click every ~10min)
It's been working OK, but that click had me look at SMART. Power is on
24/7, and unless I'm doing something, it runs BOINC

Might that click once/10 minutes be due to something like OE checking
mail every 10 minutes? or similar setting determined by you? s
 
K

kony

Might that click once/10 minutes be due to something like OE checking
mail every 10 minutes? or similar setting determined by you? s


I'd suspect power management turning it off, or that it's
the interval of temperature recalibration. A rapid clicking
or sometimes chirping or beeping noises are more cause for
alarm. Even so, better safe than sorry (back up data).
 
T

Thomas Wendell

kony said:
I'd suspect power management turning it off, or that it's
the interval of temperature recalibration. A rapid clicking
or sometimes chirping or beeping noises are more cause for
alarm. Even so, better safe than sorry (back up data).

Power management is set to not turn off HD, temp is usually around 45C.

And I image the HD to a second internal HD (scheduled) twice a week...


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V

Vittorio Janus

Power management is set to not turn off HD, temp is usually around 45C.

And I image the HD to a second internal HD (scheduled) twice a week...

Do it daily...

Regards,
vj
 
T

Thomas Wendell

Well, as it turned out, I didn't have ANY recent backups, as I forgot to
copy them from secondary HD to external HD....
as it was the secondary HD (a 4year old 120GB Samsung SV1203N) that was bad

Found out when I bought a new 500GB Samsung SATA (HD501LJ) and attemted to
connect it. When connected, the system booted normally, recognized the new
disk etc...

When trying to boot with Acronis resacue CD, the system didn't boot, just
"locked" up at "detecting primary master...."
It did find it though, but no PriSec HD....??

Trying both old IDE HDs individually (jumpered as masters), the old
secondary HD didn't spin up....
It hadn't given any errors before, now it just stopped
(except for that clicking noise, I now surmise came from that and not the
250GB WD)

But as it is, I have 500GB SATA HD as boot disk, and the 1.5year old
WD2500JB as Primaster Master, used as backup disk

(And yes, I'm going to be more diligent in making backups ,to an external
disk 200GB I have, more frequently)



Vittorio said:
Do it daily...

Regards,
vj

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V

Vittorio Janus

Well, as it turned out, I didn't have ANY recent backups, as I forgot to
copy them from secondary HD to external HD....
as it was the secondary HD (a 4year old 120GB Samsung SV1203N) that was bad

Found out when I bought a new 500GB Samsung SATA (HD501LJ) and attemted to
connect it. When connected, the system booted normally, recognized the new
disk etc...

When trying to boot with Acronis resacue CD, the system didn't boot, just
"locked" up at "detecting primary master...."
It did find it though, but no PriSec HD....??

Trying both old IDE HDs individually (jumpered as masters), the old
secondary HD didn't spin up....
It hadn't given any errors before, now it just stopped
(except for that clicking noise, I now surmise came from that and not the
250GB WD)

But as it is, I have 500GB SATA HD as boot disk, and the 1.5year old
WD2500JB as Primaster Master, used as backup disk

(And yes, I'm going to be more diligent in making backups ,to an external
disk 200GB I have, more frequently)
In one of life's ironys, one of pair of 200GB Maxtor HDDs started
clicking the day after my previous reply. So, taking my own advice, I
started a daily (rather than weekly) backup regime whilst waiting for
a 400GB Samsung replacement. Fortunately for me, only one file was
unrecoverable, although several took a long time but ultimately got
copied.

After the replacement arrived and everything was copied to the right
place, I put the failed disk into one of those USB/SATA external HD
enclosures (by mistake - I'd intended to put the other 200GB HD in for
additional backup space but mixed them up). I managed to get the
unrecoverable file back with little or no problems. My guess is that
the HD was getting too hot. I re-formatted the failed HD (the sloooow
way), copied 200GB of data onto it and then off it with no problems.

Might be worth your while trying something like that.

Regards,
vj
 
T

Thomas Wendell

Vittorio said:
In one of life's ironys, one of pair of 200GB Maxtor HDDs started
clicking the day after my previous reply. So, taking my own advice, I
started a daily (rather than weekly) backup regime whilst waiting for
a 400GB Samsung replacement. Fortunately for me, only one file was
unrecoverable, although several took a long time but ultimately got
copied.

After the replacement arrived and everything was copied to the right
place, I put the failed disk into one of those USB/SATA external HD
enclosures (by mistake - I'd intended to put the other 200GB HD in for
additional backup space but mixed them up). I managed to get the
unrecoverable file back with little or no problems. My guess is that
the HD was getting too hot. I re-formatted the failed HD (the sloooow
way), copied 200GB of data onto it and then off it with no problems.

Might be worth your while trying something like that.

Regards,
vj

I did try it in an external case, no help. And as said, it's not recognized
by any machine (I tried it in my both brother's machines too)

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