Hard Drives Over 137 GB..........Help please.......

[Neil Humphrey]

Hello All.

I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG drive went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG drive. Now I am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in anyway. I could not get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to work after repeated attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope ) and went out and bought a new XP disk. I got the impression that in order to use all 250 GIGs I needed to have SP2, which it seems that I have, and then one can partition the drive into a 137 and the balance in another. It gave me the impression that one does this after XP is installed ( or how would it know you have SP2 ?) Now I can seem to find a way to do it.
Have I screwed up? Suggestions?

Thanks,

Neil

 

[Harry Ohrn]

First off does the BIOS recognize the full size of the drive? If not you will need a BIOS update from the manufacturer of your system's motherboard. HP should be able to help you out there.

Read here http://www.48bitlba.com/overview.htm and http://support.microsoft.com/?id=303013

--


Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


Hello All.

I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG drive went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG drive. Now I am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in anyway. I could not get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to work after repeated attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope ) and went out and bought a new XP disk. I got the impression that in order to use all 250 GIGs I needed to have SP2, which it seems that I have, and then one can partition the drive into a 137 and the balance in another. It gave me the impression that one does this after XP is installed ( or how would it know you have SP2 ?) Now I can seem to find a way to do it.
Have I screwed up? Suggestions?

Thanks,

Neil

 

[Guest]

Hi

Windows XP SP1 was unable to handle any disks larger than about 130GB. SP2
can handle larger disks. When you install Windows from scratch you can
specify during the installation process the size of any disk partitions that
you want. Alternatively you can use disk management to specify after
installation. On the Start Menu, right click on "My Computer." On the menu
that appears click on "Manage." Then click on "Disk Management" on the
Explorer screen that appears. From the Disk Management screen you can specify
a new partion.

Hope this helps.

Kev.

 

[Rock]

Hello All.

I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG drive
went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG drive. Now I
am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in anyway. I could not
get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to work after repeated
attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope ) and went out and bought a new
XP disk. I got the impression that in order to use all 250 GIGs I needed to
have SP2, which it seems that I have, and then one can partition the drive
into a 137 and the balance in another. It gave me the impression that one
does this after XP is installed ( or how would it know you have SP2 ?) Now I
can seem to find a way to do it.
Have I screwed up? Suggestions?

Two things are needed for a computer with Windows XP to recognize space on
drives in excess of 137GB.
1. The BIOS must support 48bit LBA
2. Windows XP must be at SP1 or above. (Someone told you SP2 was needed,
that is not correct).

If the above two conditions are met the drive does not have to be
partitioned at 137GB. It can be set up as one partition of 250GB. The
drive can be partitioned using the tools on the XP installation CD at the
time XP is installed.

If XP was not at SP1 or above during installation or if the BIOS does not
support 48bit LBA, then all you could see on the drive is 137 GB. If 48bit
LBA is supported, but Windows XP, is not at SP1 or above then during
installation it will create a partition of 137GB. If SP1 or SP2 are added,
then that additional space will now appear as unallocated, and it can be
partitioned.

Except for creating a partition out of unallocated space as above, XP does
not have the tools to repartition the drive where the OS is installed, after
the installation.

See this link for info on large drive support with Windows XP.
http://www.largeharddrivesupport.windowsreinstall.com/winxp.htm

 

[Rock]

Hi

Windows XP SP1 was unable to handle any disks larger than about 130GB. SP2
can handle larger disks. When you install Windows from scratch you can
specify during the installation process the size of any disk partitions
that
you want. Alternatively you can use disk management to specify after
installation. On the Start Menu, right click on "My Computer." On the menu
that appears click on "Manage." Then click on "Disk Management" on the
Explorer screen that appears. From the Disk Management screen you can
specify
a new partion.

And what you say here is not quite correct. Firstly it's 137GB.
Secondly, Windows XP with SP1 can handle drives bigger than 137GB. It's
Windows XP without any SP that can't.

 

[Alpha]

Hello All.

I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG drive
went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG drive. Now I
am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in anyway. I could
not get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to work after repeated
attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope ) and went out and bought a
new XP disk. I got the impression that in order to use all 250 GIGs I
needed to have SP2, which it seems that I have, and then one can partition
the drive into a 137 and the balance in another. It gave me the impression
that one does this after XP is installed ( or how would it know you have
SP2 ?) Now I can seem to find a way to do it.
Have I screwed up? Suggestions?

Two things are needed for a computer with Windows XP to recognize space on
drives in excess of 137GB.
1. The BIOS must support 48bit LBA
2. Windows XP must be at SP1 or above. (Someone told you SP2 was needed,
that is not correct).

If the above two conditions are met the drive does not have to be
partitioned at 137GB. It can be set up as one partition of 250GB. The
drive can be partitioned using the tools on the XP installation CD at the
time XP is installed.

If XP was not at SP1 or above during installation or if the BIOS does not
support 48bit LBA, then all you could see on the drive is 137 GB. If
48bit LBA is supported, but Windows XP, is not at SP1 or above then during
installation it will create a partition of 137GB. If SP1 or SP2 are
added, then that additional space will now appear as unallocated, and it
can be partitioned.

Except for creating a partition out of unallocated space as above, XP does
not have the tools to repartition the drive where the OS is installed,
after the installation.

See this link for info on large drive support with Windows XP.
http://www.largeharddrivesupport.windowsreinstall.com/winxp.htm

See also, for a tool to do what you want, Acronis Disk Manager.

 

[Curt Christianson]

Hi Kev,

48-bit LBA support and support of drives larger than 137GB, *began* with
SP1. See:
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=303013

--
Curt

http://dundats.mvps.org/
http://www.aumha.org/


| Hi
|
| Windows XP SP1 was unable to handle any disks larger than about 130GB. SP2
| can handle larger disks. When you install Windows from scratch you can
| specify during the installation process the size of any disk partitions
that
| you want. Alternatively you can use disk management to specify after
| installation. On the Start Menu, right click on "My Computer." On the menu
| that appears click on "Manage." Then click on "Disk Management" on the
| Explorer screen that appears. From the Disk Management screen you can
specify
| a new partion.
|
| Hope this helps.
|
| Kev.
|
| "Neil Humphrey" wrote:
|
| > Hello All.
| >
| > I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG drive
went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG drive. Now I
am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in anyway. I could not
get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to work after repeated
attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope ) and went out and bought a new
XP disk. I got the impression that in order to use all 250 GIGs I needed to
have SP2, which it seems that I have, and then one can partition the drive
into a 137 and the balance in another. It gave me the impression that one
does this after XP is installed ( or how would it know you have SP2 ?) Now I
can seem to find a way to do it.
| > Have I screwed up? Suggestions?
| >
| > Thanks,
| >
| > Neil

 

[Neil Humphrey]

Fantastic Kev, exactly what I needed. I didn't notice the "Manage" option.
Couldn't find anywhere to do it! Worked great once I knew it was there.
Thanks very much.........

N

 

[Dave Cohen]

First off does the BIOS recognize the full size of the drive? If not you
will need a BIOS update from the manufacturer of your system's
motherboard. HP should be able to help you out there.

Read here http://www.48bitlba.com/overview.htm and
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=303013

--

Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp <http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp>



"Neil Humphrey" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote in message Hello All.

I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG
drive went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG
drive. Now I am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in
anyway. I could not get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to
work after repeated attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope )
and went out and bought a new XP disk. I got the impression that in
order to use all 250 GIGs I needed to have SP2, which it seems that
I have, and then one can partition the drive into a 137 and the
balance in another. It gave me the impression that one does this
after XP is installed ( or how would it know you have SP2 ?) Now I
can seem to find a way to do it.
Have I screwed up? Suggestions?

Thanks,

Neil

Why did he have to get a new winxp install. MS will send an sp2 update
cd for free.
As far as updating the bios, lol, I have same question for my emachine
and I can't get a bios update for that.
Dave Cohen

 

[Rock]

"Rock" <[email protected]> wrote

See also, for a tool to do what you want, Acronis Disk Manage.

I don't want a tool. Why are you posting this to me? I'm not the OP.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Why are you posting this to me? I'm not the OP.

On some news servers (such as the NewsHost server
for RoadRunner), the microsoft.public.* NGs don't have
more than one or two days' retention. Many times the
only remnant of a thread is one of the recent replies, and
people can only use that to append to a thread.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Ron Sommer]

Is your Bios recognizing the full size of the drive?
Did you partition the drive to 137 GB when you installed XP?
If the Bios does not recognize above 137 GB, I would not use the space above
137 GB even if XP lets you partition the space.
--
Ronald Sommer

: Fantastic Kev, exactly what I needed. I didn't notice the "Manage" option.
: Couldn't find anywhere to do it! Worked great once I knew it was there.
: Thanks very much.........
:
: N
:
:
: : > Hi
: >
: > Windows XP SP1 was unable to handle any disks larger than about 130GB.
SP2
: > can handle larger disks. When you install Windows from scratch you can
: > specify during the installation process the size of any disk partitions
: > that
: > you want. Alternatively you can use disk management to specify after
: > installation. On the Start Menu, right click on "My Computer." On the
menu
: > that appears click on "Manage." Then click on "Disk Management" on the
: > Explorer screen that appears. From the Disk Management screen you can
: > specify
: > a new partion.
: >
: > Hope this helps.
: >
: > Kev.
: >
: > "Neil Humphrey" wrote:
: >
: >> Hello All.
: >>
: >> I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG
drive
: >> went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG drive.
Now
: >> I am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in anyway. I
could
: >> not get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to work after repeated
: >> attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope ) and went out and bought a
: >> new XP disk. I got the impression that in order to use all 250 GIGs I
: >> needed to have SP2, which it seems that I have, and then one can
: >> partition the drive into a 137 and the balance in another. It gave me
the
: >> impression that one does this after XP is installed ( or how would it
: >> know you have SP2 ?) Now I can seem to find a way to do it.
: >> Have I screwed up? Suggestions?
: >>
: >> Thanks,
: >>
: >> Neil
:
:

 

[Jim]

This problem was fixed in SP1. I installed a 250 GB drive in my Dell Dimenstion 4600 while it was still at SP1. As SP2 includes all of SP!, the operating system is OK.
But you still may find that the BIOS cannot handle drives in excess of 137 GB. To fix this problem requires an update to the BIOS which you should be able to obtain from HP.
Jim
Hello All.

I have an HP machine that is about 3 or 4 years old. My WD 120 GIG drive went in the tank the other day and I have purchased a 250 GIG drive. Now I am somewhat computer literate but far from an expert in anyway. I could not get HP's recover tools or Windows XP back up to work after repeated attempts. So I did the smart thing ( I hope ) and went out and bought a new XP disk. I got the impression that in order to use all 250 GIGs I needed to have SP2, which it seems that I have, and then one can partition the drive into a 137 and the balance in another. It gave me the impression that one does this after XP is installed ( or how would it know you have SP2 ?) Now I can seem to find a way to do it.
Have I screwed up? Suggestions?

Thanks,

Neil