Hard Drive

[Jeff Houston]

I have a hard drive that I set the jumpers to master and installed it in a
computer, booted it up and even installed XP on it. Then I rebooted it and
it failed to recognize the drive. I tried everything but nothing worked. I
took the drive out, hooked it up to another machine and it recognized it
just fine. Then I set the jumpers to slave and it recognized that as well.
So I put a different drive in the first machine and the bios recognized that
drive as master, then I hooked this drive back up to the same machine as
slave and it recognized it then. But then I set the jumpers back to master,
hooked that same drive back up as master and tried to boot it, and once
again it failed to recognize the drive. It originally did recognize it, I
even installed xp on it, but now for some reason it just will not recognize
it as master drive. I checked all bios settings everything seems to be fine.
Why would it not recognize this particular drive when at first it did but
now all of a sudden it wont? Any help would be appreciated.

 

[GHalleck]

I have a hard drive that I set the jumpers to master and installed it in a
computer, booted it up and even installed XP on it. Then I rebooted it and
it failed to recognize the drive. I tried everything but nothing worked. I
took the drive out, hooked it up to another machine and it recognized it
just fine. Then I set the jumpers to slave and it recognized that as well.
So I put a different drive in the first machine and the bios recognized that
drive as master, then I hooked this drive back up to the same machine as
slave and it recognized it then. But then I set the jumpers back to master,
hooked that same drive back up as master and tried to boot it, and once
again it failed to recognize the drive. It originally did recognize it, I
even installed xp on it, but now for some reason it just will not recognize
it as master drive. I checked all bios settings everything seems to be fine.
Why would it not recognize this particular drive when at first it did but
now all of a sudden it wont? Any help would be appreciated.

Check the cable. If one is going to use jumper settings to define
whether or not the drive is Master or Slave, then one must use the
proper IDE cable. That is, an IDE cable set up for Cable Select is
not capable of differentiating between the Master and Slave jumpering
in hard drives.

 

[Frank McCoy]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Jeff Houston"

I have a hard drive that I set the jumpers to master and installed it in a
computer, booted it up and even installed XP on it. Then I rebooted it and
it failed to recognize the drive. I tried everything but nothing worked. I
took the drive out, hooked it up to another machine and it recognized it
just fine. Then I set the jumpers to slave and it recognized that as well.
So I put a different drive in the first machine and the bios recognized that
drive as master, then I hooked this drive back up to the same machine as
slave and it recognized it then. But then I set the jumpers back to master,
hooked that same drive back up as master and tried to boot it, and once
again it failed to recognize the drive. It originally did recognize it, I
even installed xp on it, but now for some reason it just will not recognize
it as master drive. I checked all bios settings everything seems to be fine.
Why would it not recognize this particular drive when at first it did but
now all of a sudden it wont? Any help would be appreciated.

Try putting the drive in "Cable Select" configuration; putting the drive
at the end of the cable (MASTER) and then trying things.

Oh yeah: And reseat *all* the cables.

A bit of advice: Don't use MASTER/SLAVE unless you actually have two
drives; and always put the single drive in the MASTER or end-position of
the cable. Also use the proper cables for your motherboard.

 

[isaac4all]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Jeff Houston"







Try putting the drive in "Cable Select" configuration; putting the drive
at the end of the cable (MASTER) and then trying things.

Oh yeah: And reseat *all* the cables.

A bit of advice: Don't use MASTER/SLAVE unless you actually have two
drives; and always put the single drive in the MASTER or end-position of
the cable. Also use the proper cables for your motherboard.

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what to do are
1. check the IDE cable
2. fix the IDE cable properly into your hard disk and also into the
morther board
that what to do to solve your problem. have a nice day

isaac okoye
information rules the world
www.finditall100free.ds4a.com

 

[Jeff Houston]

This is not a cable problem. I tried two different cables, both with same
results. Both cables were correct cables. The only option that has been
suggested that I have not done is to try it on Cable Select. I will try
that. I had considered it but did not do it because I had read to never use
CS unless have to. I will post back to let you know if it worked or not.

 

[Frank McCoy]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Jeff Houston"

This is not a cable problem. I tried two different cables, both with same
results. Both cables were correct cables. The only option that has been
suggested that I have not done is to try it on Cable Select. I will try
that. I had considered it but did not do it because I had read to never use
CS unless have to. I will post back to let you know if it worked or not.

If using *two* drives on a cable, then MASTER/SLAVE works better,
sometimes; and is more reliable as to which gets selected.

When using *one* drive alone, then on some systems Cable Select works
better. It depends a lot on both the drive and the controller.

Yeah, I know: Dumb!

ALWAYS put the MASTER on the end of the cable though.

 

[Jeff Houston]

Well, I tried the CS option, and it worked. I don't know how or why but it
did. When I originally put that drive in this machine it was NOT on CS and
it worked and I even install XP on it but when I rebooted it after
installing XP it stopped recognizing the drive. Now after switching to CS
jumper settings it works again, XP still intact as if nothing had happened.
Wierd!!

 

[sbb78247]

Well, I tried the CS option, and it worked. I don't know how or why
but it did. When I originally put that drive in this machine it was
NOT on CS and it worked and I even install XP on it but when I
rebooted it after installing XP it stopped recognizing the drive. Now
after switching to CS jumper settings it works again, XP still intact
as if nothing had happened. Wierd!!

western digital drive? some of the ide drives from them were flakey about
the m/s/cs settings depending on the number of drives in the system

 

[Rebecca]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Jeff Houston"

Try putting the drive in "Cable Select" configuration; <snip the rest>

You are aware that not all cables support Cable Select, aren't you. ( <--
rhetorical question )

 

[Frank McCoy]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Rebecca"

You are aware that not all cables support Cable Select, aren't you. ( <--
rhetorical question )

Most of those that support MASTER/SLAVE do.
It's more a matter of whether the DRIVE supports the mode than the
cable.

In ATA, these days, unless you make the cable yourself, it's almost
impossible to get one without that option being how it was made.

That's why these days they come with BIG labels saying MASTER and SLAVE
on the cable itself. Older cables with half the wires were more
reliable without cable-select; but most would still work that way.

 

[DJT]

In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "Jeff Houston"

Try putting the drive in "Cable Select" configuration; putting the drive
at the end of the cable (MASTER) and then trying things.

Oh yeah: And reseat *all* the cables.

A bit of advice: Don't use MASTER/SLAVE unless you actually have two
drives; and always put the single drive in the MASTER or end-position of
the cable. Also use the proper cables for your motherboard.

The drive is not a Western Digital by any chance.
Those drives have doifferent settings for master only and with slave.
If you have them plugged as master with slave, it may not be
recognised if slave is not present

DJT

 

[Frank McCoy]

The drive is not a Western Digital by any chance.
Those drives have doifferent settings for master only and with slave.
If you have them plugged as master with slave, it may not be
recognised if slave is not present

I know that happens.
Only WD, you say?

 

[DJT]

I know that happens.
Only WD, you say?

As far as I know the other drives have the same jumper setting for
Master whether slave is present or not

DJT