Hard Drive Full Error Message

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Guest

Thanks for all of the time all of you put in answering all of the questions
people have. I have used these forums for help for quite a while. But I am
having a problem that none of my searches are bring me an answer to. I have a
Dell Desktop with XP SP2, 640 MB Ram, 40GB HD and I have never made any
changes to the hard drive. I am getting an error message everytime I try to
install any programs or upload music, etc., stating my disk is full to remove
some data to make space and retry. My hard drive is showing used space 19.8
GB and free space 18.3 with a NTFS file system. Is it possible that it came
partitioned?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Donna
 
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Guest

The simplest things that you can try are:

Running a Scan on your drive by going to My Computer - right click on your
partition then choose Properties - Tools - Check Now. If this doesn't solve
the problem then problem you must check your PC for virus and spy-ware.
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Hi,

1. Have you tried defragging?
2. Do you have any Norton system tools running?

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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PopS

OP:
Could that "free" space be unpartitioned space? What does the
Properties for each of your disk drive letters show for
used/unused space?

Pop
 
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Guest

Thanks to all who replied!

Checking the disk came out all good. I don't have any Malware or viruses
that Norton. Microsoft or AVG can locate.

Yes I have defragged, disk cleaned too.I still show about 1/2 of the drive
is free and 1/2 used but I am not being allowed to use it, actually
defragging and disk clean did free up 192 MB.

I don't really think it is partitioned unless it would have been done at the
factory and the drive letter would have been left off.

I do have Norton Systemworks and Ghost running.

Pops, regarding my hard drive I only show 1 drive letter, the standard C. C:
shows 18.3GB free and 19.8 GB used.

I guess I'll call Dell or Maxtor, if no one else is familiar with the problem.

I will keep watching out and if & when I find out the problem I will post it.
Thanks again!
Donna
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Hi,

Disable the Norton protected disk, reboot and see what happens.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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John Mathew

humblebeez said:
Thanks for all of the time all of you put in answering all of th
questions
people have. I have used these forums for help for quite a while. But
am
having a problem that none of my searches are bring me an answer to.
have a
Dell Desktop with XP SP2, 640 MB Ram, 40GB HD and I have never mad
any
changes to the hard drive. I am getting an error message everytime
try to
install any programs or upload music, etc., stating my disk is full t
remove
some data to make space and retry. My hard drive is showing used spac
19.8
GB and free space 18.3 with a NTFS file system. Is it possible that i
came
partitioned?
Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you,
Donna

Hi,

Also check is there any hidden files siting in your hard drive ,whic
cause this problem.Don't delete the system files.

John Mathe
 
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Guest

Rick,

Thank you so much! It worked. Do you know why? Should I always turn off the
auto protect to install software? I know some programs have said to do this
before installing, this one didn't.

Thank you again, I was getting "nutty" trying to figure it out.

Donna
 
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Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Hi,

Yes, you should always do that. An installation makes changes to several
system files, something that program is designed to protect against.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
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PopS

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Thanks to all who replied!
....

I do have Norton Systemworks and Ghost running.

Pops, regarding my hard drive I only show 1 drive letter, the
standard C. C:
shows 18.3GB free and 19.8 GB used.

Are those the numbers you see if you right click on C in Explorer
and click on Properties? Which method are you using to get those
numbers?

Just sort of thinking out loud here:

Apparently you have a 40 Gig drive, too. If you have Norton's
GoBack installed, then by default it's reserving 10% disk space
for itself, which would be about 4 Gig made unavailable.

If Hibernate is enabled in the OS, that could explain a few
more Gig unavailable. See if you have a large hibernate file in
the root directory.

Also, Restore can reserve a pretty fair amount of room for
itself, too.

And then you have the ever-necessary Pagefile, which can be
yet another few Gig of space reserved if something has glitched
or someone set it unreasonably large and it's not being recovered
properly. I think windows normally figures about 1.5 to 2 times
the amount of RAM for the max pagefile size.

If it's an OEM installed system, there may be a hidden
partition on drive C that is actually your recovery data; do you
know if you have that? It would use up a few Gig, also.

Other programs can sometimes require large disk space
reserves, too, so they might be worth checking on.

Some of the various "reserved" disk spaces may or may not show up
in system calculations; that's why I asked how you were getting
the numbers for free space vs. used space.
For example:
If I right on C and click Properties, it shows me 39 Gig used and
18 Gig free.
But, if instead I select all the files on C, a different way of
doing it, the used space shows as 32 Gig and 25 Gig free.
That's a 7 Gig difference in the used space on the same disk.
I won't bore you with details, but that 7 Gig works out
about right when I consider the various "reserved" spaces
programs keep for themselves.

There are ways to test to see what's up and whether everything's
really normal, but they would involve losing history as in
Restore Points, GoBack restore points if you have them, pagefile
fiddling and things like that, probably not really something you
should get into as a neophyte, especially since you plan to call
Dell/Maxtor. I would recommend Dell first, BTW.
BTW, should someone try to get into explaining the differences
between how a "k" might be 1,000 or 1024 depending, and so on,
that is not what is causing your confusion.
Your question won't resolve around "slack space" either,
unless you're using something unknown to me to measure drive
space used/free. Slack space -could- be an issue if you use
something other than XP or standard programs to measure space
with, but I doubt very much that's the issue.
I guess I'll call Dell or Maxtor, if no one else is familiar
with the problem.

I will keep watching out and if & when I find out the problem I
will post it.
Thanks again!
Donna

Dunno about others, but I'd appreciate hearing back if/when you
get it figured out; good idea, thanks.

Regards,

Pop
 
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PopS

Good call, Rick! Never occurred to me.

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Rick "Nutcase" Rogers said:
Hi,

Yes, you should always do that. An installation makes changes
to several system files, something that program is designed to
protect against.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

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