Hard Disk Cooler for Temps above 55C?

[eli]

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard Disk:
IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature ranges
from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up gradually at
times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default HD
Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case it's
recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What would
be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

 

[David B.]

http://www.google.com/search?q=hard...t:*&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

 

[Ian D]

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard
Disk: IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature
ranges from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up
gradually at times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default
HD Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case
it's recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard
disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What
would be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

If you go here, you will get a good idea of what's available:

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=577&name=Hard-Drive-Cooling

 

[eli]

Thanks. If I'm not mistaken, it seems that a "hard disk cooler" is
essentially a fan which is placed into the pc tower [excuse my computer
naivetee].
I had a new fan installed last summer. Do these elevated temp readings
suggest I simply need a better fan?

Or am I misunderstanding something here...?

TIA
-eli

========================

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard
Disk: IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature
ranges from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up
gradually at times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default
HD Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case
it's recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard
disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What
would be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

If you go here, you will get a good idea of what's available:

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=577&name=Hard-Drive-Cooling

 

[Big Al]

Thanks. If I'm not mistaken, it seems that a "hard disk cooler" is
essentially a fan which is placed into the pc tower [excuse my computer
naivetee].
I had a new fan installed last summer. Do these elevated temp readings
suggest I simply need a better fan?

Or am I misunderstanding something here...?

TIA
-eli

========================

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard
Disk: IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature
ranges from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up
gradually at times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default
HD Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case
it's recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard
disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What
would be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

If you go here, you will get a good idea of what's available:

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=577&name=Hard-Drive-Cooling

Everything in your cabinet produces heat. Things like the drives and
the CPU are the worst. So the more cool air you can get in the cabinet
and thus the more heat you can get out the better. This is assuming
you are not running the PC in a overly hot area, beside the furnace? !!!
So how do you do it? Make sure you not only pull air out, but push air
in. There are fans that go in a spare bay too that blows air in there
and of course it should be the slot right beside your drive. The
manufacturer will tell you above or below.

I've bought 2 more fans for my cabinet above the 1 in the back of the
case and put one more in the back and one more in front. I don't
measure the heat, I just know air is a good friend. $3-4 fans or 100+
for chip/drive. Seems brainless.

There are even water coolers for cpu chips.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118015

 

[Jerry]

It is a fan that is attached to the drive itself.

Thanks. If I'm not mistaken, it seems that a "hard disk cooler" is
essentially a fan which is placed into the pc tower [excuse my computer
naivetee].
I had a new fan installed last summer. Do these elevated temp readings
suggest I simply need a better fan?

Or am I misunderstanding something here...?

TIA
-eli

========================

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard
Disk: IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature
ranges from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up
gradually at times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By
default HD Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In
this case it's recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life
of the hard disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What
would be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

If you go here, you will get a good idea of what's available:

http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=577&name=Hard-Drive-Cooling

 

[Ian D]

Thanks. If I'm not mistaken, it seems that a "hard disk cooler" is
essentially a fan which is placed into the pc tower [excuse my computer
naivetee].
I had a new fan installed last summer. Do these elevated temp readings
suggest I simply need a better fan?

Or am I misunderstanding something here...?

TIA
-eli

If your HD is not in the airflow, a case fan won't do much good.
How much free space is there above and below the disk. There
are two types of HD coolers; fans that blow air through the
disk bay, and coolers that attach onto the HD. A disk that
is mounted by itself in the mid position of a disk bay with
open room above and belot it shouldn't reach the temps you're
showing, even without direct airflow, as convection should
provide some cooling.

 

[Paul]

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard Disk:
IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature ranges
from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up gradually at
times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default HD
Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case it's
recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What would
be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

A temperature extracted by S.M.A.R.T interface, may not be accurate.
Remove the side of the computer and touch your finger to the drive metal.
My drive is lukewarm, and the measurement in Speedfan says "31C".
(My room temp sensor on the computer, reads 22C, and the computer
case air is 27C. The CPU is currently at 40C.)

I place the drives next to the intake vents in the front of the
computer. I have a single large exhaust fan in the back of the
computer, blowing out. The majority of the intake air, comes into
the computer via the front intake vent. By doing so, the hard
drives do not get any recirculated case air. They only get
room air flowing over the drive surfaces. Cooling is front to
back in the computer, with no additional side fans to confuse
the airflow.

On another computer, I use an external intake fan, to blow room
air over the hard drives. That computer case is much older, and
has inadequate fans in the back.

On computers where the drive temperature is as high as yours,
usually the drives are sitting in a "dead spot", where no air
circulates.

To make my computer case work better, I removed the lower plastic
bezel from the front of the computer case. I also removed the
internal filters (a screen that slides out). That helps the
air flow.

You don't necessarily need to buy anything to fix this. And
if the drive is lukewarm to the touch, it could be that the
SMART temperature value is just plain wrong.

Paul

 

[eli]

Thanks again:

I think the fan which was replaced last summer was not specifically attached to the HD , but was simply placed inside the tower. The technician said that Dell often requires their own proprietary fans or something..He also said the tower was rather narrow [thickness?] limiting the fan choices...

The PC is a Dell Optiplex GX 260

and the HD is: IC35L080AVVA07-0

Seems those temperature readings are lower today: ~49C, so a lot depends on what I'm doing at the PC.

I'd like to speak to the technician about this, since I wouldn't know how to put anything into the tower myself.

What would you suggest I ask the technician to do?

What is it that needs to be put in so as to keep that temperature reading within a lower range? I'd buy the needed part(s) myself if I knew waht they were and have him put them in....

Thanks for bearing with me:

-Eli

*********************************************************

Thanks. If I'm not mistaken, it seems that a "hard disk cooler" is
essentially a fan which is placed into the pc tower [excuse my computer
naivetee].
I had a new fan installed last summer. Do these elevated temp readings
suggest I simply need a better fan?

Or am I misunderstanding something here...?

TIA
-eli

If your HD is not in the airflow, a case fan won't do much good.
How much free space is there above and below the disk. There
are two types of HD coolers; fans that blow air through the
disk bay, and coolers that attach onto the HD. A disk that
is mounted by itself in the mid position of a disk bay with
open room above and belot it shouldn't reach the temps you're
showing, even without direct airflow, as convection should
provide some cooling.

 

[Farad'n]

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard Disk:
IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature ranges
from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up gradually at
times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default HD
Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case it's
recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What would
be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

Why ask HERE? This has absoutely NOTHING to do with the XP OS and as
such is out of place in this group.

Ask elsewhere

 

[eli]

Thanks Paul:

I did install Speedfan 4.34, and its temperature does line up with what HD
Tune reports.

Charts-->Fan Speeds-->Fan 2 is marked as Red.

Does this mean that that fan is defective or is not running at optimal
speed?

Thanks:

-eli

*************************************

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard
Disk: IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature
ranges from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up
gradually at times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default
HD Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case
it's recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard
disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What
would be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

A temperature extracted by S.M.A.R.T interface, may not be accurate.
Remove the side of the computer and touch your finger to the drive metal.
My drive is lukewarm, and the measurement in Speedfan says "31C".
(My room temp sensor on the computer, reads 22C, and the computer
case air is 27C. The CPU is currently at 40C.)

I place the drives next to the intake vents in the front of the
computer. I have a single large exhaust fan in the back of the
computer, blowing out. The majority of the intake air, comes into
the computer via the front intake vent. By doing so, the hard
drives do not get any recirculated case air. They only get
room air flowing over the drive surfaces. Cooling is front to
back in the computer, with no additional side fans to confuse
the airflow.

On another computer, I use an external intake fan, to blow room
air over the hard drives. That computer case is much older, and
has inadequate fans in the back.

On computers where the drive temperature is as high as yours,
usually the drives are sitting in a "dead spot", where no air
circulates.

To make my computer case work better, I removed the lower plastic
bezel from the front of the computer case. I also removed the
internal filters (a screen that slides out). That helps the
air flow.

You don't necessarily need to buy anything to fix this. And
if the drive is lukewarm to the touch, it could be that the
SMART temperature value is just plain wrong.

Paul

 

[Paul]

Thanks Paul:

I did install Speedfan 4.34, and its temperature does line up with what HD
Tune reports.

Charts-->Fan Speeds-->Fan 2 is marked as Red.

Does this mean that that fan is defective or is not running at optimal
speed?

Thanks:

-eli

Those are the color selections for the lines plotted in the chart
I have a fan which is operating just fine, and the color chosen is Red.
So that is not a problem.

My three fans read.

Fan1 0 RPM (unused fan header)
Fan2 2616 RPM (CPU fan)
Fan3 1623 RPM (fan monitor cable from ATX PSU to motherboard fan header)

My rear exhaust fan, is not equipped with an RPM sensor. So it would not
register, even if connected to a fan header. My rear exhaust fan has only
two wires, one for +12V and one for ground. The fan draws close to 1 amp.
It is 120mm x 120mm x 38mm. I bought this from my local electronics
(not Radio Shack) store. And yes, it is loud. (The version depicted here,
has a third wire added.)

http://www.circuittest.com/English/Content/Items/CFA1212038MS.asp

Paul

 

[eli]

Mine read:

Fan 1 0 RPM
Fan 2 0 RPM
Fan 3 0 RPM


So perhaps their activity had somehow been disabled? The temperature of the
HD is now showing at 51C

If thats the case, can they be enabled from the Speedfan software?

-eli

*****************************************

 

[Ian D]

Mine read:

Fan 1 0 RPM
Fan 2 0 RPM
Fan 3 0 RPM


So perhaps their activity had somehow been disabled? The temperature of
the HD is now showing at 51C

If thats the case, can they be enabled from the Speedfan software?

-eli

As a matter of interest, what are your CPU and chipset (motherboard)
temperatures? Also, what happens to the HD temp if you run it with
the case open?

 

[Paul]

Mine read:

Fan 1 0 RPM
Fan 2 0 RPM
Fan 3 0 RPM


So perhaps their activity had somehow been disabled? The temperature of the
HD is now showing at 51C

If thats the case, can they be enabled from the Speedfan software?

-eli

If you had no fans at all, your case would be "cooking". There must
still be fans working in the system.

Don't rely on software for the job. Use your eyes and ears. Take the
side panel off the computer and have a look. Look at the back of the computer.
There should be an exhaust fan on the power supply, and perhaps one additional
exhaust fan, blowing warm air out of the computer.

If Speedfan cannot locate the hardware monitor chip (read the detection log
that is generated when the program starts), then there will not be any fans
shown. If the fans don't have an RPM signal, then there is nothing to
measure. That typically happens with "case" type fans - many have only two
wires and lack RPM output. The CPU fan will usually have an RPM fan, and
if it is hooked to the normal CPU fan header, then Speedfan should be
able to see it. But that only works, if Speedfan can locate the
hardware monitor.

Speedfan scans the bus, for known hardware monitor devices. There
have been some boards, where access to the SMBUS was made more difficult
by the motherboard manufacturer (used two of them, and the regular one
was not used).

If Speedfan doesn't work, then look to the manufacturer of the computer,
as they may have a utility to read out that stuff.

But above all, use common sense. This is why I recommend using eyes,
ears, and fingers, to bring some realism to measured values. If you
can see a fan spinning, then it cannot be 0 RPM. If the case of the
hard drive is only luke warm, then the temperature is not 55C. If the room
is filled with the sound of fans spinning, then something must be
working.

In the upper left corner, I think I see an SMSC hardware monitor chip.
http://auctionmechanics.com/photos/txcess/aw2k/LotImg9789.jpg

But someone here, tried out Speedfan, and things aren't hooked up the
way that the program expects. Chip appears to be LPC47M534 (and so far,
I haven't found any info on it).

http://www.bugtrack.almico.com/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=620

Paul

 

[Paul]

Thanks again Paul and Ian:

I kept the cover open for about an hour and the temp dropped to
39C---From 51C

Inside, the main fan is working just fine. But there's a *smaller fan*
on the side which is* silent and I feel no air flow near it*. It's much
closer to the HD than the one which is whirrring and is encased in the
rear part of a long gray rectangular solid to the right side of the
HD..Not sure i can locate it precisely in that photo u sent. Maybe it
shut off when the temp fell some..Dont know..When I first felt what
I believe to be the HD , it wasnt lukewarm, but bordering on hot.
Though I cant say just how hot it was.

Might it be advisable to keep the cover slightly open until this is
looked into by a technicain? Or is there more risk of too much dust
getting in?

Yes, leave it open. Your first priority is to keep the hard drive
cool.

Paul

 

[M.I.5¾]

Hello:

I recently installed HardDisk Tune 2.55 [HD Tune]to monitor my Hard
Disk:
IC35L080AVVA07-0. I believe this HD was made by IBM

The status readings for that disk are all OK, except for temperature
ranges
from 48C---59C. It's generally at about 51C but does go up gradually at
times to 59.

In Farenheit reading this would be: ~120--138 F

The FAQ for HD Tune reads:

"
The temperature of the hard disk should not exceed 55°C/131°F. By default
HD
Tune warns you if the hard disk reaches this temperature. In this case
it's
recommended to use a hard disk cooler to extend the life of the hard disk"

What exactly is meant by hard disk cooler, and how is this
applied/installed? Can you give me some links for such products? What
would
be the simplest way to address this?

Thanks in advance:

-eli
==============================

Windows XP Professional Edition
Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0.740.000
HD: IC35L080AVVA07-0

Why ask HERE? This has absoutely NOTHING to do with the XP OS and as
such is out of place in this group.

Ask elsewhere

Every newsgroup has it's resident ****wit. Farad'n happens to be ours. He
is mentally ill as demonstrated with his continued single obsession with
critisising posts about hardware posted in a hardware newsgroup,
particularly after several contributors have provided advice.

His entire useful contribution to any newsgroup can be written on the back
of any postage stamp. In fact the stamps are actually supplied that way by
default.

 

[Ian D]

Thanks again Paul and Ian:

I kept the cover open for about an hour and the temp dropped to 39C---From
51C

Inside, the main fan is working just fine. But there's a smaller fan on the
side which is silent and I feel no air flow near it. It's much closer to
the HD than the one which is whirrring and is encased in the rear part of
a long gray rectangular solid to the right side of the HD..Not sure i can
locate it precisely in that photo u sent. Maybe it shut off when the temp
fell some..Dont know..When I first felt what I believe to be the HD , it
wasnt lukewarm, but bordering on hot. Though I cant say just how hot it was.

Might it be advisable to keep the cover slightly open until this is looked
into by a technicain? Or is there more risk of too much dust getting in?

================

A good way to determine if a fan is operating is to hold
a sheet of toilet tissue outside the fan grille. If the
tissue is drawn toward the grill and is held against it when
you let go, the fan is working. The fact that the HD cools
to a normal when the case is open proves that there is
something wrong with the case's air circulation.

 

[Farad'n]

Every newsgroup has it's resident ****wit. Farad'n happens to be ours. He
is mentally ill as demonstrated with his continued single obsession with
critisising posts about hardware posted in a hardware newsgroup,
particularly after several contributors have provided advice.

His entire useful contribution to any newsgroup can be written on the back
of any postage stamp. In fact the stamps are actually supplied that way by
default.

You have never ONCE denied the point that NONE of the posts I complain
about have ANYTHING to do with WindowsXP, which is CLEARLY in the
group title. Of course that assumes you know how to read, which I am
beginning to doubt.

Then you complain that I should stop posting and acting as groupCop,
yet that is exactly what YOU are doing by telling ME to stop. This
not only makes you a dumbass and dip, but a world class HYPOCRITE.

Congratulations!

 

[M.I.5¾]

You have never ONCE denied the point that NONE of the posts I complain
about have ANYTHING to do with WindowsXP, which is CLEARLY in the
group title. Of course that assumes you know how to read, which I am
beginning to doubt.

Correct. Because as you have singularly failed to comprehend: I don't care.
And going by others who have responded to you dillusional rantings: neither
does anybody else.

We are all quite happy to answer questions about hardware in this hardware
newsgroup - whether you like it or not.

Now **** off.