hal.dll corrupt

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hi i tried to start my PC today but i couldnt do so because a message came up
saying "<windows root>\system32\hal.dll."

but the thing is i cant even access safe mode. I just wanted some help in
what to do and is there anyway that i can back up my files (e.g by entering
safe mode)

Any help will greatly be appreciated, Thanks
 
chawdretto said:
hi i tried to start my PC today but i couldnt do so because a message
came up saying "<windows root>\system32\hal.dll."

but the thing is i cant even access safe mode.
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Why don't you perform a repair installation. Note that all available system
updates have to be reinstalled afterwards.
 
hey thanks guys for the quick reply

i tried googling the error message but i get pages on how to fix it by
rebooting the computer. but ive got some very important files on there that i
need to back up. how can i access some sort of safe mode so i can backup my
files?

oh DD...im not into IT so i dont know what a repair intallation is
 
chawdretto said:
hey thanks guys for the quick reply

i tried googling the error message but i get pages on how to fix it by
rebooting the computer. but ive got some very important files on there that i
need to back up. how can i access some sort of safe mode so i can backup my
files?

oh DD...im not into IT so i dont know what a repair intallation is
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A. Fix the hal.dll missing error:

Set the BIOS to boot CD before Hard Disk. Boot the XP CD and, instead
of Setup, take the immediate R for Repair. Assume any password
requested is blank, and TAB over.

Use
Attrib -H -R -S C:\boot.ini
DEL C:\boot.ini
to delete the bad one
BootCfg /Rebuild

to search for Windows installations and make a new one.

Accessing the BIOS:
http://michaelstevenstech.com/bios_manufacturer.htm
http://www.uktsupport.co.uk/reference/biosp.htm
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000235.htm

B. To get into Safe Mode:

Repeatedly tap the F8 key as the computer is starting up. This will get
you to the right menu. Navigate using your Up arrow key; the mouse will
not work here.

C. Retrieve data that wasn't backed up when you can't get into Windows:

1. Pull the drive and slave it in a computer running a working install
of XP. Depending on the target drive's characteristics, you may need a
drive adapter; i.e., laptop-to-IDE or a SATA controller card, etc. A
usb/firewire external drive enclosure works very well, too. Use the
working Windows Explorer to copy the data to the rescue system's hard
drive and then burn the data to cd or dvd.

2. Often XP will not boot with a slaved drive that has a damaged file
system. In that case, boot the target computer with either a Bart's PE
or a Linux live cd such as Knoppix and retrieve the data that way. Here
is general information on using Knoppix for this:

You will need a computer with two cd drives, one of which is a cd/dvd-rw
OR a usb thumb drive with enough capacity to hold your data OR an
external usb/firewire hard drive formatted FAT32 (not NTFS). To get
Knoppix, you need a computer with a fast Internet connection and
third-party burning software. Download the Knoppix .iso and create your
bootable cd. Then boot with it and it will be able to see the Windows
files. If you are using the usb thumb drive or the external hard drive,
right-click on its icon (on the Desktop) to get its properties and
uncheck the box that says "Read Only". Then click on it to open it. Note
that the default mouse action in the window manager used by Knoppix
(KDE) is a single click to open instead of the traditional MS Windows'
double-click. Otherwise, use the K3b burning program to burn the files
to cd/dvd-r's.

http://www.knoppix.net
http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ - Bart's PE Builder

If all or any of the above is beyond what you can or want to do, there
is no shame in taking your machine to a professional computer repair
shop (not a BigComputerStore/GeekSquad type of place). I don't hesitate
to take my care to the mechanic.


Malke
 
cheers for the help again, but my comp didnt come with any windows xp cd when
i bought it. it was already installed on it...is this a problem or should it
have the cd?
 
Without the XP setup CD it is next to impossible to properly maintain a
Windows installation. That Microsoft permits manufacturers to ship
Windows computers without this essential CD speaks volumes of what
Microsoft thinks of its customers, not much!

You should be able to carry out Malke's instruction by using the setup
floppy boot disks.

How to obtain Windows XP Setup boot disks
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994/

Somehow I think that I already know what your next post is going to be...

John
 
Why blame Microsoft? How about the manufacturers? Get the facts of each case
first. Example: One manufacturer provides instructions on recoveries and
gives instructions on creating recovery CD's.
It is not Microsoft's responsibility nor do they have authority to dictate
the shipment of the CD's.
 
Of course Microsoft can dictate that real cd's be included with the sale
of new computers. They now dictate that the manufacturers must include
a method of reinstalling Windows, all they need to do is tell the
manufacturers that they must ship a real Windows cd with the computer.

John
 
Sorry, they CANNOT do that. Illegal.
John John said:
Of course Microsoft can dictate that real cd's be included with the sale
of new computers. They now dictate that the manufacturers must include a
method of reinstalling Windows, all they need to do is tell the
manufacturers that they must ship a real Windows cd with the computer.

John
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Microsoft has censored three of my posts in this thread so obviously
this is a pretty touchy subject for them, they don't want their
customers to know what is going on with this. To engage in an open and
frank discussion on the subject the discussion will have to be taken to
an .alt group.

This is part of what I said in my last censored post:

"Of course they can! There is nothing illegal about it and that is how
they did it in the past. If you want to sell computers with Windows
installed on them you have to enter into an agreement with Microsoft.
Small system builders don't bother too much with this, they sell too few
machines or do not have the resources to comply with complicated
agreements so they just purchase generic (Microsoft) OEM disks and
accept the terms of the Small System Builders agreement, part of which
stipulates that they *must* include the generic OEM cd with the sale of
the computer. http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

The large OEM's have different agreements with Microsoft and part of
their agreement stipulates that they *must* include a method of
reinstalling Windows with the sale of the computer. The present rules
state that the reinstall method can be a real Windows CD (or a real
copy, that the manufacturer can stamp out itself), a manufacturer's
restoration/image CD or a service partition that contains the
installation files or an image. If the manufacturers don't comply with
the rules they cannot sell Windows software licenses. To put an end to
the problems Microsoft can simply state in its rules that the
manufacturers must supply a real cd."

But then maybe this post might also be in vain, it too may be censored...

John
 
Reread 'present rules'. I agree a restoration method is required but
shipping a CD is not.
 
Well, isn't that what this part of discussion was all about? Why are
real Windows cd's not shipped with new Windows computers? Manufacturers
must supply a (one) reinstallation method, Microsoft tells them which
methods are acceptable and leaves it to them to chose which
reinstallation method they will supply. If manufacturers wanted to
include a real windows cd they could and if Microsoft wanted
manufacturers to include "real" Windows cd with the sale of new Windows
computers it could simply make it a mandatory condition of the
distribution agreement. The plain and simple fact is that there are
ulterior motives involved in the equation but I can't mention them
because if I do my posts are censored.

John
 
Suit yourself but what you say is not true. The manufacturers are
selling licenses and Microsoft need only say that the CD is part of the
license and that it must be included with the sale, as it now does for
small OEMs and generic CDs. It really is that simple, Microsoft can
force small manufacturers to do it and they could force the big guys to
do it if they wanted to.

John
 
They (the manufacturer's) are being forced to include a method of
reinstalling Windows as it is now, so why aren't they suing about that?
It's a non issue, being told to include a real Windows cd with the
sale of a Windows license would not be a trade restriction, they could
still ship their restoration cd along with the real McCoy if they wanted
to. The manufacturers say nothing because they too do not have the
better interests of the consumers in mind, they have other motives in
mind, which I might add is why companies are in business. But we all
know what is going on with this and why none of the players say anything
or do anything about it. We know all too well who the losers are in
this game, we know who it is that pays the price. Surprising that you
could mention A-G in your post and not be censored, must be because the
wrong party was at the receiving end in my earlier posts ;-)

John
 

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