Good starters laser printer suggestions please

[tiktak]

I almost took a deal for a used hp laserjet 1000 today, for a small $50CAN,
no toner inside. to me this is a good deal, for a good printer that meets my
needs (I only need text printing)... plus toners are relatively cheap and
last long.

that deal did not work in the end, so I'm looking for other suggestions in
similar price range. this is for roughly 50-100 pages a month. and we're
basically talking prints of stamp album pages, meaning pages with maybe
10-20 little squares on them, and a few words inbetween.

anyone please? thank you.

please remove obvious before emailing me.

 

[Warren Block]

I almost took a deal for a used hp laserjet 1000 today, for a small $50CAN,
no toner inside. to me this is a good deal, for a good printer that meets my
needs (I only need text printing)... plus toners are relatively cheap and
last long.

that deal did not work in the end, so I'm looking for other suggestions in
similar price range. this is for roughly 50-100 pages a month. and we're
basically talking prints of stamp album pages, meaning pages with maybe
10-20 little squares on them, and a few words inbetween.

Any laser ought to be able to handle such a light job.

Ones to avoid: poor paper feeds (HP LaserJet 5L, 6L, the LJ1000 also).

The other kind to avoid are Winprinters. These are printers that are so
cost-reduced they have almost no onboard brains, and the rendering is
done on the host computer. These can often be identified by a model
number ending in a "W".

Having said that, even a top-feeding Winprinter is probably up to the
job you've described.

 

[l e o]

Any laser ought to be able to handle such a light job.

Ones to avoid: poor paper feeds (HP LaserJet 5L, 6L, the LJ1000 also).

The other kind to avoid are Winprinters. These are printers that are so
cost-reduced they have almost no onboard brains, and the rendering is
done on the host computer. These can often be identified by a model
number ending in a "W".

Having said that, even a top-feeding Winprinter is probably up to the
job you've described.

< The other kind to avoid are Winprinters. These are printers that are
so cost-reduced they have almost no onboard brains, and the rendering is
done on the host computer. >

Why do laser printers have different (higher) standard than inkjets?

 

[Warren Block]

Warren Block wrote:

< The other kind to avoid are Winprinters. These are printers that are
so cost-reduced they have almost no onboard brains, and the rendering is
done on the host computer. >

Why do laser printers have different (higher) standard than inkjets?

Because lasers are seen as a serious thing, but inkjets are mostly for
printing pictures of pets and ugly relatives? Or relatives and ugly
pets, I always get those mixed up.

 

[tiktak]

Because lasers are seen as a serious thing, but inkjets are mostly for
printing pictures of pets and ugly relatives? Or relatives and ugly
pets, I always get those mixed up.

.... its pets and ugly relatives, you had it right first time.

thank you for answering my initial query.

maybe I'll come back to this thread with a specific model before buying,
just to make sure I get it right.

regards.

 

[tiktak]

Any laser ought to be able to handle such a light job.

Ones to avoid: poor paper feeds (HP LaserJet 5L, 6L, the LJ1000 also).

The other kind to avoid are Winprinters. These are printers that are so
cost-reduced they have almost no onboard brains, and the rendering is
done on the host computer. These can often be identified by a model
number ending in a "W".

Having said that, even a top-feeding Winprinter is probably up to the
job you've described.

Is there anything terribly wrong with the Samsung ML-2010 printer. I
desperately need a printer asap, and a deal just came along... I think the
lady wants 110$CAN (90US or so) for a brand new never used printer with
starter toner inside (good for 1000 pages not the 3000 you get on regular
toner for this printer).

I think I'll give it a go until I hear something bad from the experts here.

thank you.

 

[Warren Block]

Is there anything terribly wrong with the Samsung ML-2010 printer. I
desperately need a printer asap, and a deal just came along... I think the
lady wants 110$CAN (90US or so) for a brand new never used printer with
starter toner inside (good for 1000 pages not the 3000 you get on regular
toner for this printer).

Price might be a little high. J&R Music World says they have it for $99
new. It's a Winprinter. But it'll probably serve.

 

[zakezuke]

Why do laser printers have different (higher) standard than inkjets?

maybe I'll come back to this thread with a specific model before buying,
just to make sure I get it right

Also lasers by their very nature are more workhorses than inkjets. A
low yield laser is, with some exceptions, going to be able to print
2000 copies a cart and be able to print hundrads of pages a session
without blinking an eye. Because getting the image onto a page is
primarly done using light, i.e. nothing really all that mechanical,
throwing charged power around that is of an opposite charge that gets
attracted to the drum, which then in turn is is rolled onto paper, or
rather starts rolling and the paper just comes along for the ride, gets
heated at the end and comes out.

All the mechanics in lasers are geard tward moving paper from one place
to another... one direction. They are actually rather simple
mechanicly. Big arse rollers and rears and a heater.

Inkjets are actually a little more complex mechanicaly. They have to
have rollers to suck paper, but have a head that hangs out above the
paper not exactly touching it... and must use a stepper motor to move
the paper a little bit, then the head does a side to side motion. This
side to side motion must be in sync with the last side to side motion
or else you information, text or otherwise, gets shifted in large 2cm
or so bands. Go, stop, side to side, go, stop, side to side.

The laser on the other hand uses a drum of a diamater that is larger
than your average inkjet head width, and doesn't move at all... so
unless you are printing on a train or in an earth quake this is not an
issue. There is no go stop side to side just a continual rolling.
Pick up a piece of paper, roll at a consistent speed, and rest when the
whole job is done whether it be one page or several hundrad pages. So
much easier on the motors.

 

[drc023]

The initial cost is often misleading. Be sure to factor in replacement
consumables. I don't know about the Samsung printer you describe, but it
would be a good idea to check out the cost of replacement toner cartridges.
The purchase price sounds reasonable.

 

[tiktak]

The initial cost is often misleading. Be sure to factor in replacement
consumables. I don't know about the Samsung printer you describe, but it
would be a good idea to check out the cost of replacement toner
cartridges. The purchase price sounds reasonable.

thank you.
I think the fact alone that samsung put in a starter toner that prints 1/3
of what you get on regular toners afterwards (so 1000 pages vs 3000 pages or
so) is already a bad sign. thats being cheap I think. I don't know if
samsung does it for other models they sell, possibly for the lower priced
ones yes, but in any case, I think replacement toners for this printer
around 80-100$US as far as I saw recently.

 

[Hecate]

thank you.
I think the fact alone that samsung put in a starter toner that prints 1/3
of what you get on regular toners afterwards (so 1000 pages vs 3000 pages or
so) is already a bad sign. thats being cheap I think. I don't know if
samsung does it for other models they sell, possibly for the lower priced
ones yes, but in any case, I think replacement toners for this printer
around 80-100$US as far as I saw recently.

If it's any help, we've used Samsung lasers and they've always been
reliable.

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Fashion: Buying things you don't need, with money
you don't have, to impress people you don't like...

 

[tiktak]

Any laser ought to be able to handle such a light job.

Ones to avoid: poor paper feeds (HP LaserJet 5L, 6L, the LJ1000 also).

The other kind to avoid are Winprinters. These are printers that are so
cost-reduced they have almost no onboard brains, and the rendering is
done on the host computer. These can often be identified by a model
number ending in a "W".

Having said that, even a top-feeding Winprinter is probably up to the
job you've described.

Hello Sir, folks...

suppose someone is selling an old but fully functional (I have seen it
function) HP IIp laser printer...at 4ppm I think... which is enough for me..
and toners at decent price too, good for 3000-5000 pages or so (Drum on
toner, which I assume is also not very common but very useful and saves
money in long run)... all this for a give away $20US. no toner included.

I mean regardless of the price, though my budget is limited... is this
thing even worth bothering with or am I just gonna pile up junk in my house
with it?

kind regards.

 

[Warren Block]

suppose someone is selling an old but fully functional (I have seen it
function) HP IIp laser printer...at 4ppm I think... which is enough for me..
and toners at decent price too, good for 3000-5000 pages or so (Drum on
toner, which I assume is also not very common but very useful and saves
money in long run)... all this for a give away $20US. no toner included.

I mean regardless of the price, though my budget is limited... is this
thing even worth bothering with or am I just gonna pile up junk in my house
with it?

That brings back memories. Putting it kindly, it's not a fast printer.
AFAIR, It didn't come with enough memory to print a full-page bitmap,
which is a problem with newer operating systems that want to render the
whole page themselves.

$20 with toner and extra memory might not be a bad deal. Without...

A $50 Winprinter is likely to be more functional.

 

[Burt]

Also - no straight paper path which means that envelopes get "munched" and
heavier stock won't feed as well. I had one and it was a really good
printer in its day. I now have an HP laserjet5p which prints a little bit
faster, prints fonts with much finer lines and detail, and has two ways for
the paper to exit after printing, one of which is a straight paper path from
the fold-down top feed tray. It has worked flawlessly for around 8 years.
I'd rather have this one than the IIP if one is available.