Good quality 2tb SATA hard drives

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Daniel Prince

Does any company currently make good quality two terabyte SATA hard
drives? I have read that both Seagate and Western Digital now have
severe quality problems and that Hitachi and Samsung have been
bought up by Seagate and Western Digital.

Are there any reasonably priced drives that will last several years
and keep my data safe? Thank you in advance for all replies.
 
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Rod Speed

Daniel Prince said:
Does any company currently make good
quality two terabyte SATA hard drives?

Samsung does, but they have just had their hard
drive operation bought by Seagate, so it remains
to be seen what will happen with those drives now.
I have read that both Seagate and Western Digital now
have severe quality problems and that Hitachi and Samsung
have been bought up by Seagate and Western Digital.

And that's all there is.
Are there any reasonably priced drives that
will last several years and keep my data safe?

Yes, Samsung drives. There are still some around, but you'd better be quick.
 
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Grant

Does any company currently make good quality two terabyte SATA hard
drives? I have read that both Seagate and Western Digital now have
severe quality problems and that Hitachi and Samsung have been
bought up by Seagate and Western Digital.

Samsung had a problem with their 2TB drives, I returned mine for
refund, bought a couple of Seagate 5900rpm drives which perform
well, one in a Linux box, other in a Win7 box.
Are there any reasonably priced drives that will last several years
and keep my data safe? Thank you in advance for all replies.

Never any guarantee for keeping data safe, keep multiple copies or
buy/build a NAS store with RAID6 might help.

Grant.
 
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larry moe 'n curly

Daniel said:
Does any company currently make good quality two terabyte SATA hard
drives? I have read that both Seagate and Western Digital now have
severe quality problems and that Hitachi and Samsung have been
bought up by Seagate and Western Digital.

Are there any reasonably priced drives that will last several years
and keep my data safe?

Seagate, Western Digital, Hitachi, Samsung -- not one I've bought has
failed (but I back up like crazy anyway).

If you're using a version of Windows older than Vista, like XP,
Seagates make the only hard drives wtih 4KB sectors that don't need
their partitions to be aligned to prevent slow writes. OTOH it's not
hard to create 4KB aligned partitons.

One Russian data recovery firm liked Hitachi best, but a French data
recovery firm said they were the worst. You may want to search the
forums at HDDguru.com because many of the people there are in the HD
repair and data recovery business, but all I noticed was that Samsungs
were the easiest to reassemble, WDs the hardest (might affect the cost
of data recovery, but I don't know). Otherwise they don't seem to
consider any brands or current models inferior.

I won't miss Samsung USA tech support, which seemed clueless and
incapable of doing anything but giving out RMA numbers. They didn't
know the difference between hard disks and optical disks ("I have
excellent training."), nor were they aware of bugs in their EStools
diagnostic (fixed) or the firmware of early HD204UI 2TB drives
(sometimes caused data loss with queued commands) and newer SATA III
drives (bug prevented recognition by some controllers).
 
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Tom Del Rosso

Rod said:
Samsung does, but they have just had their hard
drive operation bought by Seagate, so it remains
to be seen what will happen with those drives now.


And that's all there is.

What happened to Fujitsu?
 
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Tom Del Rosso

Daniel said:
Does any company currently make good quality two terabyte SATA hard
drives? I have read that both Seagate and Western Digital now have
severe quality problems and that Hitachi and Samsung have been
bought up by Seagate and Western Digital.

Are there any reasonably priced drives that will last several years
and keep my data safe?

There has never been one that would keep it safe, as you always need backups
no matter what you get.

So do as others do and get 3 different brands and use 2 for backup.
 
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Tom Del Rosso

Daniel said:
Does any company currently make good quality two terabyte SATA hard
drives? I have read that both Seagate and Western Digital now have
severe quality problems and that Hitachi and Samsung have been
bought up by Seagate and Western Digital.

And does it really matter if they have the same parent company? It's still
a different production line.
 
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Rod Speed

Tom Del Rosso said:
Daniel Prince wrote
And does it really matter if they have the same parent company?
It's still a different production line.

It remains to be seen how long they continue to
develop new products for each production line tho.

Cant see that continuing forever, even with Seagate that does
tend to keep the old operation going for a long time sometimes.
 
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Yousuf Khan

They got out of 3.5" drives a very long time ago now.

I think we're left with just Western Digital and Seagate now? If this
isn't a sign that we should be moving to SSD's very soon, I don't know
what is.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Rod Speed

Tom Del Rosso said:
Rod Speed wrote
Do they have suicidally short sleep time-outs like WD?

Nope, only WD has ever been that stupid.

That and their other terminal stupiditys and the very
high failure rate a mate of mine saw with WDs is the
reason that I now avoid them. I did use them at one
time, but that was back in the x0GB era.
 
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Yousuf Khan

But SSD sizes are still problematic. We want HUGE sizes! Also, longevity
with data with the limited writes.

Yeah, but those prices are coming down much faster than they are with
hard disks, it shouldn't be more than 5 years before these two are close
to price parity in terms of capacity. The SSD is already well beyond
price parity in terms of performance.

There is a distinct air of a buggy-whip industry floating around the
hard disk industry.

Yousuf Khan
 
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Tom Del Rosso

Yousuf said:
Yeah, but those prices are coming down much faster than they are with
hard disks, it shouldn't be more than 5 years before these two are
close to price parity in terms of capacity. The SSD is already well
beyond price parity in terms of performance.

There is a distinct air of a buggy-whip industry floating around the
hard disk industry.

Aside from the number of writes, what about long term stability for files
written to SSD 5 or 10 years ago?
 
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Percival P. Cassidy

Nope, only WD has ever been that stupid.
That and their other terminal stupiditys and the very
high failure rate a mate of mine saw with WDs is the
reason that I now avoid them. I did use them at one
time, but that was back in the x0GB era.

Except for one Seagate IDE drive that died after the 5-year warranty
period had expired and after having sat unused for many months, all my
dead hard drives are Western Digital.

Perce
 
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Rod Speed

Yousuf Khan said:
Ant wrote
Yeah, but those prices are coming down much faster than they are with hard
disks,

Only because they are much newer products, much less mature pricing wise.
it shouldn't be more than 5 years before these two are close to price
parity in terms of capacity.

Don’t believe it with say the 5TB or 10TB drives which
should be the best $/TB with hard drives by then.
The SSD is already well beyond price parity in terms of performance.

Not when you just want a drive for your PVR where the performance
of even the green hard drives is all you need performance wise.
There is a distinct air of a buggy-whip industry floating around the hard
disk industry.

Fantasy with multiple TB hard drives.
 
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Rod Speed

Percival P. Cassidy said:
Rod Speed wrote
Except for one Seagate IDE drive that died after the 5-year warranty
period had expired and after having sat unused for many months, all my
dead hard drives are Western Digital.

Yeah, mate of mine bought 20 or so and the ALL failed, some quicker than
others.

And that was in the TB era too.
 

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