Ghost 9.0's Copy Drive, Cloning & SP2

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JP

Plus Linux and OS2 versions in the same package :)

Downloadable version is FULL function, no crippleware.
Regsitration required for non-evaluation use only.

Regards, JvW

Thanks Jan
 
J

JP

Have a look at Casper XP. By far the best cloning package I have ever
used - basically a couple of clicks, copies 8GB in about 5 minutes.
Swap drives around, boots straight away.

I've just finished BETA testing this - it knocks the spots off the
competition.


Odie

I found Casper XP. If this lives up to its claims, it would be the best
cloning program yet and exactly what I need. Also, in the PC Magazine
review of this (a link to it is on the Casper site) it states: "The
Create Drive wizard is the equivalent of using Windows' built-in drive-
management console." Is this referring to Control Panel, Administrative
Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management or something else? Anyway,
I'm going to look into this. Thanks Odie.
 
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Odie Ferrous

JP said:
I found Casper XP. If this lives up to its claims, it would be the best
cloning program yet and exactly what I need. Also, in the PC Magazine
review of this (a link to it is on the Casper site) it states: "The
Create Drive wizard is the equivalent of using Windows' built-in drive-
management console." Is this referring to Control Panel, Administrative
Tools, Computer Management, Disk Management or something else? Anyway,
I'm going to look into this. Thanks Odie.

I do know they are still looking for beta testers.

Do a google groups search for CasperXP (or "casper XP") for details.


Odie
 
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David Chien

Rather than the silly and sometimes unreliable method of software
duping, why not consider spending the money you've put into these into a
nice RAID card that supports mirroring?

This simple card would automatically mirror the drives live (ie. 100% of
the time), so that anytime one drive fails, you can swap directly to the
2nd working backup immediately w/o any downtime at all.

These cards sell for <$40 everywhere from companies like Adaptec, etc.
 
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Timothy Daniels

David Chien said:
Rather than the silly and sometimes unreliable method
of software duping, why not consider spending the
money you've put into these into a nice RAID card that
supports mirroring?

This simple card would automatically mirror the drives
live (ie. 100% of the time), so that anytime one drive fails,
you can swap directly to the 2nd working backup
immediately w/o any downtime at all.


And if the OS should get hosed by some bad software
or by user error, the mirror OS gets hosed, too, and both
drives are useless. IOW, "mirroring" duplicates good and
bad without any time delay to allow you to say "Ooops!"
and then to back track.

*TimDaniels*
 
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Mike Redrobe

Timothy said:
And if the OS should get hosed by some bad software
or by user error, the mirror OS gets hosed, too, and both
drives are useless. IOW, "mirroring" duplicates good and
bad without any time delay to allow you to say "Ooops!"
and then to back track.

If you want that with mirroring, just break the mirror (remove one drive)
at the time you want the "backup" to be frozen at.

This will work the same as any other drive cloning method.

Ghost et al are really just "offline raid 1" or "one-time raid 1 mirrors"

<disclaimer>
I myself use ghost 2003 to image backup the system to a bootable DVD -
I keep the system partition at 4Gb
 
J

JP

If you want that with mirroring, just break the mirror (remove one drive)
at the time you want the "backup" to be frozen at.

This will work the same as any other drive cloning method.

Ghost et al are really just "offline raid 1" or "one-time raid 1 mirrors"

<disclaimer>
I myself use ghost 2003 to image backup the system to a bootable DVD -
I keep the system partition at 4Gb

I've thought about RAID, but I see it Tim's way. I clone once every few
days or once a week, depending on activity. But routinely removing one
drive then putting it back and duplicating the entire first drive to the
second then taking it off again, etc. would seem to be more trouble than
cloning for my purposes. But thanks for the suggestion.
 
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David Chien

I've thought about RAID, but I see it Tim's way. I clone once every few
days or once a week, depending on activity. But routinely removing one
drive then putting it back and duplicating the entire first drive to the
second then taking it off again, etc. would seem to be more trouble than
cloning for my purposes. But thanks for the suggestion.

5 1/2" 3.5" HD ejectable drive bays for ~$20 anywhere online!

You simply have the drive(s) docked into these ejectable bays, so
anytime you want to on-line a drive, simply insert before startup.
Then, make the backup, power down, and put the backup drive somewhere
safe (ie. not in the same office/room/house!).

You can have the best of both worlds with such an easy setup.

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http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchproducts.asp?dept=pcc1&search=1pc06&child=1sc20-1

http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?T1=168+0537
 
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Timothy Daniels

David Chien said:
5 1/2" 3.5" HD ejectable drive bays for ~$20 anywhere online!

You simply have the drive(s) docked into these ejectable bays, so
anytime you want to on-line a drive, simply insert before startup.
Then, make the backup, power down, and put the backup drive somewhere
safe (ie. not in the same office/room/house!).

You can have the best of both worlds with such an easy setup.


I agree. the removable trays/drawers/caddies are the best of
both worlds. I use the one made by Kingwin that has the fan
built into the bottom of the tray, and it keeps the HD quite cool.
Here's a description:
http://kingwin.com/pdut_detail.asp?LineID=&CateID=25&ID=136

You can find them retailing for a "street" price of around
$24 with extra trays (each of which contains a fan) for about
$12 to $14.

I go even further: I put the fixed internal HDs on switched power.
That is, the power cable to each HD goes through a DPST toggle
switch that is mounted on the front of the metal chassis under
the plastic bezel. With the machine off, I can reach in there with
a hooked paperclick and throw the toggle switch and thereby
isolate or connect the HD with the original OS. That way, I can
start up the clone for the 1st time in isolation from the original
without having to open up the PC to disconnect the original drive.
Once that is done, I power down, and throw the toggle switch
again to re-connect the original HD and either boot up the system
with both HDs running or remove the clone in its caddy and
then re-boot. The convenience is pure luxury.

*TimDaniels*
 
J

JP

At Future Systems Solutions' website
http://www.fssdev.com/

Review in PCWorld (June 3, 2004):
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1606870,00.asp

*TimDaniels*

I finally got around to buying Casper XP. After weeks of torture with the
"support" folks for Symantec's Ghost 2005, I'm shocked that Casper is so
tight and works so well, the first time, with no rigamarole. And in the
background while you continue working too! Somehow just getting my money
back from Symantec doesn't seem fair enough.

Regards to all,
JP
 
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fumata_faka

Just used XXCOPY v.2858 tonight to disk to disk copy and it worked
wonderfully. Saved me the 50 bucks from going out and buying a newer
version of ghost. Should check it out if you haven't
 
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AMartin777

I was having the exact same: Error E7C3000F when attempting a backup of my
c:\ partition. I DO NOT have any bad sectors on the drive. I removed
Ghost 9.0 completely, did a full install and update to .NET Framework V1.1
and then a full re-install of Ghost. It's been working perfectly ever
since so it seems that having the .NET Framework installed FIRST and then
installing Ghost 9.0 is all important.
 
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Firewire

JP, I am having the same type of issue with Ghost 9 from System Works
Premier 2005. I also have SP2 applied to XP home. My exact error was
"...did not complete successfully Error E7C3000F: Device\\.\ PQV2i
snapshot () Cannot read 4,096 Sectors starting at LBA 6281,856 Error
00000057: The Parameter is incorrect (0xE7C3000F)" This error followed
an attempt to image drives C, D, E to a Maxtor One Touch 120 hard drive
with verification turned off.

Before that attempt I received this error constantly "Error EA39070A
Internal structure of the PQI file is invalid or unsupported
(0xEA39070A)" with verification enabled.

I hope someone finds a solution. I bought the Norton Sys Works Prem 05
just to get Ghost 9. At a hefty price of about $90. I hope others
will post their displeasure with Norton for having no solution.


I'm looking for a reliable "cloning" program. What I want to do is simply
clone (not image) my C: drive to my D: drive, so that in the event of a C:
drive failure I could just unplug the data cable from C:, plug it into D:,
adjust the BIOS, boot and go with a hard drive that would be identical to
where I last backed up by making the clone and without doing anything else.
(This is a cable-select configuration.) I had PowerQuest's DirveImage
which had a utility called DriveCopy that did this very well, but when I
installed Service Pack 2 to my Win XP, it no longer worked. So I bought
Norton SystemWorks Premier 2005 which includes Ghost 9.0. Ghost's Copy
Drive feature appears to be terribly flawed with SP2, yielding error
message E7C3000F among other problems. Symantec's technical support
acknowledged that it is a known issue with no solution (but no word of this
on their Web site). Even worse, they gave me time-consuming possible
 

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