Ghost 9.0 Can't Find Drives

K

kgf

I have my first hard drive "issue". Main C-System drive, as well as
D-backup are SATA drives, connected directly to my motherboard. I
previously created a C-drive image, and saved it to my second hard
drive. Now I'm trying to restore from the image, booting up with the
Disaster Recovery CD as supplied by my Norton SystemWorks. All is fine
until I try to point to my secondary drive with the image on it. It
asks me to "insert a drive" when I try to select any of the indicated
drives. It shows a C,D, E, and F. I've got the two SATA hard drives,
a IDE DVD-RW (that the recover CD is running off of), as well as a
mulitmedia reader (USB - based).

I did do a total reinstall of Windows (XP-Media Center edition) to my
C-Drive, and installed Ghost. I could easily access my backup image,
but of course found out I can't restore my C-drive from the windows
environment.

What gives? These are SATA drives, they show up in the BIOS, I
shouldn't need to install any drivers, right?

I am going to take this opportunity to do a "clean" install of all my
software to my recently purchased Dell 9100 (already deleted their
hidden backup partition), but I need to backup some items from the
image before I do that.
 
J

John .

kgf said:
I have my first hard drive "issue". Main C-System drive, as well as
D-backup are SATA drives, connected directly to my motherboard. I
previously created a C-drive image, and saved it to my second hard
drive. Now I'm trying to restore from the image, booting up with the
Disaster Recovery CD as supplied by my Norton SystemWorks. All is fine
until I try to point to my secondary drive with the image on it. It
asks me to "insert a drive" when I try to select any of the indicated
drives. It shows a C,D, E, and F. I've got the two SATA hard drives,
a IDE DVD-RW (that the recover CD is running off of), as well as a
mulitmedia reader (USB - based).

I did do a total reinstall of Windows (XP-Media Center edition) to my
C-Drive, and installed Ghost. I could easily access my backup image,
but of course found out I can't restore my C-drive from the windows
environment.

What gives? These are SATA drives, they show up in the BIOS, I
shouldn't need to install any drivers, right?

The drivers/support for SATA come from the Disaster Recovery boot CD
of Ghost 9 (or Ghost 10). I suspect that Ghost 9 boot CD doesn't have
support for all of the newer SATA motherboards and chipsets.

For Ghost peer to peer supper, try the Radified Forums,which are
almost exclusively about Ghost:

http://radified.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi
 
R

Rod Speed

kgf said:
I have my first hard drive "issue". Main C-System drive, as well as
D-backup are SATA drives, connected directly to my motherboard.
I previously created a C-drive image, and saved it to my second
hard drive. Now I'm trying to restore from the image, booting
up with the Disaster Recovery CD as supplied by my Norton
SystemWorks. All is fine until I try to point to my secondary
drive with the image on it. It asks me to "insert a drive" when
I try to select any of the indicated drives. It shows a C,D, E, and F.
I've got the two SATA hard drives, a IDE DVD-RW (that the recover
CD is running off of), as well as a mulitmedia reader (USB - based).
I did do a total reinstall of Windows (XP-Media Center edition)
to my C-Drive, and installed Ghost. I could easily access my
backup image, but of course found out I can't restore my
C-drive from the windows environment.
What gives?

Ghost is a steaming turd, basically.
 
K

kgf

Downloaded the SATA driver's for my system, used them when booting from
the disaster recovery CD, and I'm currently restoring the drive image.
Had to "borrow" a floppy drive from my old system.
 
J

John .

kgf said:
Downloaded the SATA driver's for my system, used them when booting from
the disaster recovery CD, and I'm currently restoring the drive image.
Had to "borrow" a floppy drive from my old system.

Glad to hear it's working.

Unfortunately, there are no global Symantec newsgroups for support
anymore of their products. They used to have forums at Symantec and
you could search for similar posts, but it appears that Symantec
eliminated them in favor of email only support, or to quell the many
public postings of problems.

I found the Radified forums while searching Google for a Ghost
problem.
 
C

chrisv

kgf said:
Downloaded the SATA driver's for my system, used them when booting from
the disaster recovery CD, and I'm currently restoring the drive image.
Had to "borrow" a floppy drive from my old system.

For the $7 it costs, I always build a floppy drive into my systems.
 
M

Michael Kimmer

kgf said:
Downloaded the SATA driver's for my system, used them when booting
from the disaster recovery CD, and I'm currently restoring the drive
image. Had to "borrow" a floppy drive from my old system.

You can ask for a modified ISO image that represents the Ghost 9.0 Recovery
CD that contains the proper XP based storage drivers for your RAID
controller.
Please, contact Symantec Tech Support and send along the required XP storage
drivers and a System Information file to them and they will build a new ISO
for you WITH these drivers integrated. I'm not quite sure what the
procedure/possibilities are for the embedded Ghost 9 version along with
NSW....but just ask...

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"
 
M

Michael Kimmer

Michael said:
You can ask for a modified ISO image that represents the Ghost 9.0
Recovery CD that contains the proper XP based storage drivers for
your RAID controller.
Please, contact Symantec Tech Support and send along the required XP
storage drivers and a System Information file to them and they will
build a new ISO for you WITH these drivers integrated. I'm not quite
sure what the procedure/possibilities are for the embedded Ghost 9
version along with NSW....but just ask...

Correction: RAID controller should be in your case SATA controller...

--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"
 
R

Rod Speed

Michael Kimmer said:
kgf wrote
You can ask for a modified ISO image that represents the Ghost 9.0 Recovery CD
that contains the proper XP based storage drivers for your RAID controller.
Please, contact Symantec Tech Support and send along the required XP storage
drivers and a System Information file to them and they will build a new ISO
for you WITH these drivers integrated.

Shouldnt be that hard to make one yourself using Bart PE.
 
M

Michael Kimmer

Rod said:
Shouldnt be that hard to make one yourself using Bart PE.
That's true but not everyone is not technically skilled or can find the time
to do it his or herself ;-)


--
M.f.G.
Michael Kimmer

"Ein Tag an dem Du nicht lächelst ist ein verlorener Tag"
"Eine Nacht in der Du nicht schläfst ist eine verschlafene Nacht"
 
J

John .

Rod Speed said:
Ghost is a steaming turd, basically.
Using Ghost 10 I take a full independent image/back up my c: drive and
d: to an external USB2 drive.

c: (18gb actual used)
d: (10gb actual used)

The Ghost image backup takes about 12 minutes. So that's
28gb/12minutes or 2.3 gb/min for the speed (default compression
level).

That seems fast enough for me. Before I get back from coffee, it's
done.
 
P

Peter

Using Ghost 10 I take a full independent image/back up my c: drive and
d: to an external USB2 drive.

c: (18gb actual used)
d: (10gb actual used)

The Ghost image backup takes about 12 minutes. So that's
28gb/12minutes or 2.3 gb/min for the speed (default compression
level).

That seems fast enough for me. Before I get back from coffee, it's
done.

How big is your image file(s) on USB drive?
 
R

Rod Speed

Using Ghost 10 I take a full independent image/
back up my c: drive and d: to an external USB2 drive.
c: (18gb actual used)
d: (10gb actual used)
The Ghost image backup takes about 12 minutes. So that's 28gb/
12minutes or 2.3 gb/min for the speed (default compression level).
That seems fast enough for me.

Slow enough that many wouldnt do a
safety image before changing anything.
Before I get back from coffee, it's done.

And you cant create the image from the booted CD
with a system you want to do a safety image of before
you do anything to it, you have to install Ghost first.

And try cloning the hard drive when upgrading it to
something bigger. Since you cant do that from the
booted CD either, it a complete and utter obscenity.

And its still got the .Net Framework obscenity too.

And Symantec no longer has decent support using a forum too.
 
J

John .

Rod Speed said:
And you cant create the image from the booted CD
with a system you want to do a safety image of before
you do anything to it, you have to install Ghost first.

And try cloning the hard drive when upgrading it to
something bigger. Since you cant do that from the
booted CD either, it a complete and utter obscenity.

And its still got the .Net Framework obscenity too.

And Symantec no longer has decent support using a forum too.

You would probably be happier with Acronis TrueImage. Here's a review
that just came out from PC World:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,123202,00.asp

The only capability I can't find in TI is the ability to create
backups DIRECTLY to DVD, which Ghost will do. I think with TI you
create chunks and then
 
J

John .

Rod Speed said:
And you cant create the image from the booted CD
with a system you want to do a safety image of before
you do anything to it, you have to install Ghost first.

And try cloning the hard drive when upgrading it to
something bigger. Since you cant do that from the
booted CD either, it a complete and utter obscenity.

And its still got the .Net Framework obscenity too.

And Symantec no longer has decent support using a forum too.

You would probably be happier with Acronis TrueImage. Here's a review
that just came out from PC World:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,123202,00.asp

The only capability I can't find in TI is the ability to create
backups DIRECTLY to DVD, which Ghost will do. I think with TI you
create chunks and then use a different software application to do the
burns to DVD.

Backups to external hard drives are fine, but I like to take DVD
backups offsite.
 
P

Peter

The only capability I can't find in TI is the ability to create
backups DIRECTLY to DVD, which Ghost will do. I think with TI you
create chunks and then use a different software application to do the
burns to DVD.

Backups to external hard drives are fine, but I like to take DVD
backups offsite.

Do you like feeding DVDs during backup? I don't!
 
R

Rod Speed

You would probably be happier with Acronis TrueImage.

I am indeed, been using it for a long time now.
Longer than Ghost 9 has been out for in fact.
Here's a review that just came out from PC World:
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/article/0,aid,123202,00.asp
The only capability I can't find in TI is the
ability to create backups DIRECTLY to DVD,

Corse you can. Tho I dont normally want to.
which Ghost will do. I think with TI you create chunks and then
use a different software application to do the burns to DVD.
Nope.

Backups to external hard drives are fine,
but I like to take DVD backups offsite.

Sure, I do too, but I prefer to do it indirectly, basically
because I dont have a DVD burner on every PC currently.
 
J

John .

Rod Speed said:
Corse you can. Tho I dont normally want to.


Nope.

http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/products/trueimage/faq.html

How can I use Acronis True Image 9.0 to write images directly to DVD
discs?

Acronis True Image 9.0 is capable of writing to a DVD disc in Windows
if UDF packet DVD-writing software is installed and the DVD disc is
formatted. If a DVD disc is not formatted, Acronis True Image 9.0 will
ask you to format it.

You need a Drive Letter Access (DLA) UDF packet writing driver so that
you can format the DVD and the computer can see the disc. Acronis True
Image 9.0 currently supports the following DVD-writing software:

Roxio Drag-To-Disc — a part of Roxio Easy Media Creator

Ahead InCD — available for free on the Nero site for Ahead Nero users
(and usually is shipped with Nero)

In general, Acronis True Image 9.0 also supports other UDF packet
DVD-writing software, but the two above are the most popular and they
have been tested and approved by Acronis.

To make the DVD disc writeable in Acronis True Image 9.0, you should
do the following:

Install UDF packet DVD-writing software.
Format the DVD discs.
Start Acronis True Image 9.0, insert the formatted DVD disc into the
DVD burner and create an image.

The images from the DVD disc can be restored both in Windows and by
means of the standalone version of Acronis True Image 9.0.

There is also a two-step method for writing to DVDs. Acronis True
Image 9.0 can create an image of a hard disk/partition as a single
file on the hard disk itself, and then you can copy the file using
your own DVD-writing software to the DVD disc. We recommend you to set
the image archive splitting size to 2,000 MBytes (2 GBytes) on the
"Image Archive Splitting" screen, as generally the maximum size of a
file stored on a DVD disc is 2 GBytes.
 
R

Rod Speed

John said:
How can I use Acronis True Image 9.0 to write images directly to DVD discs?

Thats nothing like what you said. The practical reality is that you
just select the DVD drive to write to just like you do with Ghost.
 

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