Getting IP to change with router

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Dan

When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20
seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the
Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I
have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on
again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer
does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody
know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a
Westell by the way if you want to know.
 
When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20
seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the
Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I
have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on
again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer
does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody
know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a
Westell by the way if you want to know.
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Dan,

Getting a different IP address, with the Verizon Internet client, would be a
Verizon proprietary process. With a Westell or other router, running a standard
DHCP client, the IP address is probably assigned as a function of the MAC
address on the router. You COULD change the MAC address, and maybe get a
different IP address. But DO NOT do this blindly.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html
 
Dan,

Getting a different IP address, with the Verizon Internet client, would be a
Verizon proprietary process. With a Westell or other router, running a standard
DHCP client, the IP address is probably assigned as a function of the MAC
address on the router. You COULD change the MAC address, and maybe get a
different IP address. But DO NOT do this blindly.
<http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html>
http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/10/mac-addresses.html
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Thanks for your advice. I just found out how to connect and disconnect
with the Verizon icon even with the router though (meaning I can get a
new IP address). I do it with a "traffic shaping" utility called
Cfosspeed. It let's you use your browser, bittorrent program, Emule
and other related programs without slowing each other down. A big
problem I had before. It has a menu that says "Connect to Verizon
Online" and "Log off Verizon Online". Now, I tried it awhile ago but
it didn't work for changing the IP address, but since then I got a new
version and reinstalled it, and I just retried it so something went
right :)
 
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Dan said:
When I had a single modem I used to be able to turn it off like for 20
seconds and turn it back on again, and then press "connect" on the
Verizon icon in "Network Connections" and get a new IP number. Now I
have a router and things are different. Turning it off and back on
again doesn't work. Unplugging the router and rebooting the computer
does work however, but I don't want to have to do that. Does anybody
know how I can get a new IP while using a router? My router's a
Westell by the way if you want to know.
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Might I ask why you want to do this?
 
Thanks for your advice. I just found out how to connect and disconnect
with the Verizon icon even with the router though (meaning I can get a
new IP address). I do it with a "traffic shaping" utility called
Cfosspeed. It let's you use your browser, bittorrent program, Emule
and other related programs without slowing each other down. A big
problem I had before. It has a menu that says "Connect to Verizon
Online" and "Log off Verizon Online". Now, I tried it awhile ago but
it didn't work for changing the IP address, but since then I got a new
version and reinstalled it, and I just retried it so something went
right :)
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Well, that's fine. If you like doing that at will, then that's a selling point
for using the Vz proprietary connection software, which I wouldn't do. I'd be
using a NAT router.

And if you're changing the IP address to get away from some netblock or other
mistake that you made, remember that most any IP address that you'll get has
been used by somebody.
 
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Might I ask why you want to do this?
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Curious huh? Think I'm doing something illegal? Well you're
right! :) Ever hear of rapidshare? In case you don't know it's a
service that let's you download anything. People are using it all over
the place to share big files. If you have something to share, you
upload it to them and get your own link. Then you give everyone else
this link and they can download from it. Problem is if you want to
download from them freely there's a 50mb limit or something and then
you have to wait an hour to start downloading again. This is unless
you pay for a subscription and you can download to your heart's
content.
So me being so damn cheap, I wanted to know if there was anyway
around it and found out simply that getting your IP changed will allow
you to bypass the hour limit and you can keep on downloading :) Now, I
haven't downloaded rapidshare stuff in awhile (there's this site I go
to that uses them alot). I'm gonna go today and hopefully rapidshare
hasn't beaten this tactic. Pretty hard to do I think, unless they want
to ban for an hour everyone at the main domain of Verizon from my part
of New York (they'd have to do this for all systems across the
country, or even the world who do what I'm doing, they're a German
international site, so they're used all over the world I think). Don't
worry though, alot of people don't know this and just pay up,
rapidshare makes a lot of money. If you're interested in their site
it's rapidshare.de There's others who do the same thing but
rapidshare have become the most popular.
 
Well, that's fine. If you like doing that at will, then that's a selling point
for using the Vz proprietary connection software, which I wouldn't do. I'd be
using a NAT router.

And if you're changing the IP address to get away from some netblock or other
mistake that you made, remember that most any IP address that you'll get has
been used by somebody.
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Well whatever works right ;) I'll look into the Nat router.
 
Curious huh? Think I'm doing something illegal? Well you're
right! :) Ever hear of rapidshare? In case you don't know it's a
service that let's you download anything. People are using it all over
the place to share big files. If you have something to share, you
upload it to them and get your own link. Then you give everyone else
this link and they can download from it. Problem is if you want to
download from them freely there's a 50mb limit or something and then
you have to wait an hour to start downloading again. This is unless
you pay for a subscription and you can download to your heart's
content.
So me being so damn cheap, I wanted to know if there was anyway
around it and found out simply that getting your IP changed will allow
you to bypass the hour limit and you can keep on downloading :) Now, I
haven't downloaded rapidshare stuff in awhile (there's this site I go
to that uses them alot). I'm gonna go today and hopefully rapidshare
hasn't beaten this tactic. Pretty hard to do I think, unless they want
to ban for an hour everyone at the main domain of Verizon from my part
of New York (they'd have to do this for all systems across the
country, or even the world who do what I'm doing, they're a German
international site, so they're used all over the world I think). Don't
worry though, alot of people don't know this and just pay up,
rapidshare makes a lot of money. If you're interested in their site
it's rapidshare.de There's others who do the same thing but
rapidshare have become the most popular.
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Interesting.

I've played with RapidShare, back when they had a 10M limit / hour. And I found
that you can use each computer on your LAN, separately. So it sounds like a NAT
router will take care of you. Just make sure that Verizon broadband is NAT
router compatible.
 
Interesting.

I've played with RapidShare, back when they had a 10M limit / hour. And I found
that you can use each computer on your LAN, separately. So it sounds like a NAT
router will take care of you. Just make sure that Verizon broadband is NAT
router compatible.
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Well I don't need to do that, it would be very inconvenient to have to
use all the computers in my house. I can easily do it by just
connecting and disconnecting on my computer. You know Rapidshare now
let's you upload up to 300mb's! Very cool. And I think you only have
to wait 10 minutes if you've reached your limit (which I think is
still 50mb's). They must be doing very good business. Good thing
competition's also around with the other services.
 
Chuck said:
Interesting.

I've played with RapidShare, back when they had a 10M limit / hour. And I
found
that you can use each computer on your LAN, separately. So it sounds like
a NAT
router will take care of you. Just make sure that Verizon broadband is
NAT
router compatible.
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Well, If all addresses on LAN side of router are from real Internet
address-space that's most likely possible, but in my case
(LAN---NAT/FIREWALL/ROUTER---DSL_MODEM): even when I change a PC address to
whatever I want, on the Internet side of my DSL modem, everyone will see the
modem's IP address, no matter which PC on the LAN is using the Internet
link.

By the way, my ISP have a very strange policy... After each power failure
(happens one to several times per a day, usually for less than a second and
then power is restored, because my power suply provider do not do their
job), modem's IP address will most likely change, but if I disconnect it
from power manually, it will be given the same IP.

I chose to use the free DynDNS services instead of paying 168% of the
original Internet fee to the ISP - just to get a static IP.
 
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