FrontPage Table of Contents problem

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I have inherited a Frontpage website which has used the Table of Contents feature in Frontpage. I added an html page with links to 3 pdf files to the site and created a link to it from the home page. That all worked fine. Consistent with the existing site design I placed these pages in a folder called Info. The default.htm page in that folder has a Table of Contents which now also shows my new pages. This is great except that the titles for the pdf files show up as filenames rather than descriptive titles. How can I change this? (I also don't see the pdf files in the navigation view, although I do see the html file in the correct position. That doesn't bother me, but I wonder if it is related.)
 
You will not see the PDF document title in the TOC or navigation view as FP can not open PDF files.

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sachew said:
I have inherited a Frontpage website which has used the Table of Contents feature in Frontpage. I
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added an html page with links to 3 pdf files to the site and created a link to it from the home
page. That all worked fine. Consistent with the existing site design I placed these pages in a
folder called Info. The default.htm page in that folder has a Table of Contents which now also
shows my new pages. This is great except that the titles for the pdf files show up as filenames
rather than descriptive titles. How can I change this? (I also don't see the pdf files in the
navigation view, although I do see the html file in the correct position. That doesn't bother me,
but I wonder if it is related.)
 
Have you tried right-clicking one of the PDF files in
FrontPage, choosing Properties, and entering a Title?

I'm not sure if that'll work, but I'm pretty sure it's
your only chance. A Navigation View name seems even less
likely to affect a Table of Contents component.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
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|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
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|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
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-----Original Message-----
I have inherited a Frontpage website which has used the
Click to expand...
Table of Contents feature in Frontpage. I added an html
page with links to 3 pdf files to the site and created a
link to it from the home page. That all worked fine.
Consistent with the existing site design I placed these
pages in a folder called Info. The default.htm page in
that folder has a Table of Contents which now also shows
my new pages. This is great except that the titles for
the pdf files show up as filenames rather than descriptive
titles. How can I change this? (I also don't see the
pdf files in the navigation view, although I do see the
html file in the correct position. That doesn't bother
me, but I wonder if it is related.)
 
No, as you can view the TOC in your browser, then save a HTML and import back into FP and then
rename the links.

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================


sachew said:
I tried that but the title did not seem to be editable. Does this mean that pdf (or other
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non-html) files shouldn't be used in sites that have this TOC feature? Seems somewhat limiting to
me.
 
It should be editable, unless the creator of the PDF document has put some
kind of security on it. Another way to change the title is to go to Reports
View and View all files. View | Reports | Files | All Files. Click once in
the Title field for the PDF document and type in your own title.
 
A PDF is just like an image file
- it has no html title or attribute, so only the file name is used in the TOC
(you can't add a title to it - you just happen to use text as a URL display for the URL in your page)

If you don't want the PDFs to show up, rename the folder to a _hidden folder as: _Info

If you want the PDF to use a "title" instead of a file name in the TOC, add it to your nav view (under the page it links to) and
rename it in nav view to the text you want to display
(it will also show up in the nav bars and open in the same browser window)

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| I tried that but the title did not seem to be editable. Does this mean that pdf (or other non-html) files shouldn't be used in
sites that have this TOC feature? Seems somewhat limiting to me.
|
| "Jim Buyens" wrote:
|
| > Have you tried right-clicking one of the PDF files in
| > FrontPage, choosing Properties, and entering a Title?
| >
| > I'm not sure if that'll work, but I'm pretty sure it's
| > your only chance. A Navigation View name seems even less
| > likely to affect a Table of Contents component.
| >
| > Jim Buyens
| > Microsoft FrontPage MVP
| > http://www.interlacken.com
| > Author of:
| > *----------------------------------------------------
| > |\---------------------------------------------------
| > || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
| > ||---------------------------------------------------
| > || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
| > || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
| > || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
| > || (All from Microsoft Press)
| > |/---------------------------------------------------
| > *----------------------------------------------------
| >
| >
| >
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > >I have inherited a Frontpage website which has used the
| > Table of Contents feature in Frontpage. I added an html
| > page with links to 3 pdf files to the site and created a
| > link to it from the home page. That all worked fine.
| > Consistent with the existing site design I placed these
| > pages in a folder called Info. The default.htm page in
| > that folder has a Table of Contents which now also shows
| > my new pages. This is great except that the titles for
| > the pdf files show up as filenames rather than descriptive
| > titles. How can I change this? (I also don't see the
| > pdf files in the navigation view, although I do see the
| > html file in the correct position. That doesn't bother
| > me, but I wonder if it is related.)
| > >.
| > >
| >
 
Stefan B Rusynko said:
A PDF is just like an image file
- it has no html title or attribute, so only the file name is used in
the TOC (you can't add a title to it - you just happen to use text as
a URL display for the URL in your page)
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Not true, Stefan. Using the procedure that I posted last night, I change the
titles on PDF documents all the time - see the TOC on this page:
http://www.cthealthpolicy.org/action/sitemap.htm
 
Correct
- but the text used can be anything, and will not be a "title" from w/i the PDF, or even the title that may have been used in the
page for the hyperlink to the PDF

Doing it in Report View is the same as doing it in Nav View in FP
Both add an entry in the "filename.pdf" file in the appropriate _vti_cnf folder
(which contains the FP META data for each file)
The entry added is:
vti_title:SR|Your New Title Here

PS
You can do it to any media file in any view by just selecting the File and right clicking it for properties
- the name you add becomes a FP only "title" for use in FP webbots
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| > A PDF is just like an image file
| > - it has no html title or attribute, so only the file name is used in
| > the TOC (you can't add a title to it - you just happen to use text as
| > a URL display for the URL in your page)
|
| Not true, Stefan. Using the procedure that I posted last night, I change the
| titles on PDF documents all the time - see the TOC on this page:
| http://www.cthealthpolicy.org/action/sitemap.htm
|
|
| --
| ~ Kathleen Anderson
| Microsoft MVP - FrontPage
| Spider Web Woman Designs
| http://www.spiderwebwoman.com/resources/
|
 
Kathleen,

However when you open the document, the page title in the browser is the document filename, not the
name shown in the TOC for the document.

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
I just tried this in both FP2002 and FP2003, and it worked fine in
both. Here's the procedure.

1. Use File, Open Web (or in FP2003, File, Open Site) to open the Web
site.
2. Find the PDF file in the FrontPage Folder List.
3. Right-click the entry in the Folder List, then choose Properties.
4. When the Properties dialog box appears, on the General tab, type
the
title you want in the Title field.
5. Click OK.
6. Open the page that contains your table of contents component,
then save it.
7. Use Preview In Browser to view the page that contains the table of
contents component.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
Author of:
*----------------------------------------------------
|\---------------------------------------------------
|| Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
||---------------------------------------------------
|| Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
|| Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
|| Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
|| (All from Microsoft Press)
|/---------------------------------------------------
*----------------------------------------------------
 

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