FP2000 to FP2003 upgrade: how do I create a new page?

[Trish]

I've been struggling to create a 'new page' to my existing
FP2000 web site ever since upgrading to FP2003. What do
I have to do to generate a new page with the 'shared
borders' and theme that I was using in FP2000?
My url is www.regischurch.com.
Do I need to learn html to learn how to get each new page
using the same navigation structure as that used in
FP2000? All I'm trying to do is for each 'new page' request
to default to the shared borders and navigation structure
as the existing page. I want uniformity throughout my
web.
I'm willing to change every page in the web, if I can just
know how or what I have to do to make this work?
I know I've done something stupid, but I don't know
what process to follow to fix it.
Current FP2003:
I have WinXP Pro, FP2003, and am running on a server
that has FP2002 extensions. I have the authoring compo-
nents. I have the shared borders authoring components
on and had the pinpoint blue theme applied to my web
that was generated under FP2000.
Problem FP2003:
I open my site in FP2003, I select navigation view, I
highlight the page I want to generate a new page from,
and then select New from the menu File options. This
brings up a page I selected as an existing page with
a 'new_page_1' tab highlighted on the top of the existing
page and with the shared border on the left with text
that says 'Add this to the existing navigation structure'.
I don't know what this means or how I get my
navigation buttons showing in the left hand border.
Solution:
Can anyone tell me what I need to do to get this to
work in FP2003. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to
get this resolved.
I don't know how much it would cost to get someone
to help me offline if this is something that can't be
resolved with my lack of knowledge, but this is some-
thing I can't resolve by myself. I've been trying for
3 weeks with a lot of good help from this newsgroup.
I feel really stupid.
I've saved and printed each response I've received
from my original question posted on 8/9, but nothing
seems to work.
Please help me if you can.

 

[Ronx]

".... with the shared border on the left with text
that says 'Add this to the existing navigation structure'.
I don't know what this means or how I get my
navigation buttons showing in the left hand border. "

This means that the page has to be added to the Navigation View (FP2003 does
not do this automatically, as previous versions may have done [it has been
years since I last created a new page in Navigation view]):

Save the page, giving it its proper filename and Title. (The new_page_1.htm
tab will change to reflect the new filename.)

Click on the Web Site tab at the top of the page (next to the tab that said
new_page_1.htm)

At the bottom of the screen click the Navigation tab (if navigation view is
not showing).

Drag the new page from the file list into the Navigation view, and drop in
the appropriate place.

Click the tab near top of window to bring up the page for editing.

If the message changes to
[Edit the properties for this link bar to display hyperlinks here]
then the link bar properties being used cannot display any links from the
page (example: the link bar may be set to display Child Pages, and the page
has no child pages.)

Ron

 

[Trish]

LOL:
Thanks Ronx.
After over 1 month I managed to create a new-page in FP2003.
I loved this release while cleaning up the web on my Server and
the disk web on my PC. There are a lot of things I really like about
this release. The creation of a new-page is NOT one of them. At
this point I am eternally grateful to you for getting me around the
impasse I was at.
The handling of my web for routine updating is very time consuming
compared to routine updating for FP2000. In FP2000, all I had to do
was: In Navigation view select the page I wanted my new page under,
go to the menu File list and select New page, FP2000 created a page
block in the Navigation view that was highlighted with the new-page-1
file name, I renamed to the new page name I wanted, and then
selected the page to get to page-view. I put my update info in the
new page, and used the file menu option to Save. It worked like a
charm.
Is there any way to get FP2003 to provide this type of straight
forward creation of a new page in my existing web? Maybe it's just
me but this is confusing as all getout in FP2003. Maybe my theme
is not working (pinpoint-blue) that was on my existing FP2003 web?
I at least can get caught up in back updates now. Though it's going
to take days instead of hours to get my backlog of updates done.
THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST GETTING ME A WORKAROUND TO
RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
One last question, do you know what URL I would go to to get any
FP2003 knowledgebase problem reports?

 

[Ronx]

Actually, I just found that FP2003 will place a new page in Navigation
automatically, but the procedure has changed slightly from that you
describe:

In Navigation view, right click the page you want the new page under.
Choose New, then Page from the context menu
FP will create the new page, and the Navigation box.
Change the Title information in the Nav. box - this will change the Page
Title and the page filename.
Double click the box to edit the page.

As for finding Knowledge Base articles - In my opinion this is an arcane art
requiring a combination of good luck and magic. Many articles pertaining to
FP2003 were written for other versions of FrontPage, so searching for FP2003
can miss the one you are looking for.
But start here:
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
Note: This page is impossible to get to if you are using Firefox as your
browser.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

LOL:
Thanks Ronx.
After over 1 month I managed to create a new-page in FP2003.
I loved this release while cleaning up the web on my Server and
the disk web on my PC. There are a lot of things I really like about
this release. The creation of a new-page is NOT one of them. At
this point I am eternally grateful to you for getting me around the
impasse I was at.
The handling of my web for routine updating is very time consuming
compared to routine updating for FP2000. In FP2000, all I had to do
was: In Navigation view select the page I wanted my new page under,
go to the menu File list and select New page, FP2000 created a page
block in the Navigation view that was highlighted with the new-page-1
file name, I renamed to the new page name I wanted, and then
selected the page to get to page-view. I put my update info in the
new page, and used the file menu option to Save. It worked like a
charm.
Is there any way to get FP2003 to provide this type of straight
forward creation of a new page in my existing web? Maybe it's just
me but this is confusing as all getout in FP2003. Maybe my theme
is not working (pinpoint-blue) that was on my existing FP2003 web?
I at least can get caught up in back updates now. Though it's going
to take days instead of hours to get my backlog of updates done.
THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST GETTING ME A WORKAROUND TO
RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
One last question, do you know what URL I would go to to get any
FP2003 knowledgebase problem reports?
-----------------------------------------------------

".... with the shared border on the left with text
that says 'Add this to the existing navigation structure'.
I don't know what this means or how I get my
navigation buttons showing in the left hand border. "

This means that the page has to be added to the Navigation View (FP2003 does
not do this automatically, as previous versions may have done [it has been
years since I last created a new page in Navigation view]):

Save the page, giving it its proper filename and Title. (The new_page_1.htm
tab will change to reflect the new filename.)

Click on the Web Site tab at the top of the page (next to the tab that said
new_page_1.htm)

At the bottom of the screen click the Navigation tab (if navigation view is
not showing).

Drag the new page from the file list into the Navigation view, and drop in
the appropriate place.

Click the tab near top of window to bring up the page for editing.

If the message changes to
[Edit the properties for this link bar to display hyperlinks here]
then the link bar properties being used cannot display any links from the
page (example: the link bar may be set to display Child Pages, and the page
has no child pages.)

Ron

 

[Ronx]

Further to this, when you right click the Navigation Box, there is an option
to create a new page based on an existing page. This will open a copy of
the page just clicked with a filename of new_page_1.htm, but will not create
the navigation entry.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

Actually, I just found that FP2003 will place a new page in Navigation
automatically, but the procedure has changed slightly from that you
describe:

In Navigation view, right click the page you want the new page under.
Choose New, then Page from the context menu
FP will create the new page, and the Navigation box.
Change the Title information in the Nav. box - this will change the Page
Title and the page filename.
Double click the box to edit the page.

As for finding Knowledge Base articles - In my opinion this is an arcane art
requiring a combination of good luck and magic. Many articles pertaining to
FP2003 were written for other versions of FrontPage, so searching for FP2003
can miss the one you are looking for.
But start here:
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=fh;[ln];kbhowto
Note: This page is impossible to get to if you are using Firefox as your
browser.

Ron
--
Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.

LOL:
Thanks Ronx.
After over 1 month I managed to create a new-page in FP2003.
I loved this release while cleaning up the web on my Server and
the disk web on my PC. There are a lot of things I really like about
this release. The creation of a new-page is NOT one of them. At
this point I am eternally grateful to you for getting me around the
impasse I was at.
The handling of my web for routine updating is very time consuming
compared to routine updating for FP2000. In FP2000, all I had to do
was: In Navigation view select the page I wanted my new page under,
go to the menu File list and select New page, FP2000 created a page
block in the Navigation view that was highlighted with the new-page-1
file name, I renamed to the new page name I wanted, and then
selected the page to get to page-view. I put my update info in the
new page, and used the file menu option to Save. It worked like a
charm.
Is there any way to get FP2003 to provide this type of straight
forward creation of a new page in my existing web? Maybe it's just
me but this is confusing as all getout in FP2003. Maybe my theme
is not working (pinpoint-blue) that was on my existing FP2003 web?
I at least can get caught up in back updates now. Though it's going
to take days instead of hours to get my backlog of updates done.
THANK YOU FOR AT LEAST GETTING ME A WORKAROUND TO
RESOLVE THE PROBLEM.
One last question, do you know what URL I would go to to get any
FP2003 knowledgebase problem reports?
-----------------------------------------------------

".... with the shared border on the left with text
that says 'Add this to the existing navigation structure'.
I don't know what this means or how I get my
navigation buttons showing in the left hand border. "

This means that the page has to be added to the Navigation View (FP2003 does
not do this automatically, as previous versions may have done [it has been
years since I last created a new page in Navigation view]):

Save the page, giving it its proper filename and Title. (The new_page_1.htm
tab will change to reflect the new filename.)

Click on the Web Site tab at the top of the page (next to the tab that said
new_page_1.htm)

At the bottom of the screen click the Navigation tab (if navigation

view

is

not showing).

Drag the new page from the file list into the Navigation view, and drop in
the appropriate place.

Click the tab near top of window to bring up the page for editing.

If the message changes to
[Edit the properties for this link bar to display hyperlinks here]
then the link bar properties being used cannot display any links from the
page (example: the link bar may be set to display Child Pages, and the page
has no child pages.)

Ron

 

[Trish]

Hi Ronx,
This finally makes sense to me. I knew I was doing something dumb.
You made this really simple.... and it works just fine. I'm sorry I
was such a pest. I've generated 4 new pages to hold the backlogged
updates, edited about 30 pages, and cleaned up about 280 old ob-
solete files on the Server web. FP2003 seems to provide me with a
lot more information as to what the code underneath commands is
accomplishing. However, without help from you folks who know HTML
and can interpret from the code what's happening to help us dumbies
I would not be able to support a web at all.
Thank you.
I know it took time to figure out what I was asking relative to a
release that you had not run. I will probably never be able to repay
you for this time, but I am very grateful.
....
Respect and gratitude, my friend. The solution you outlined worked
perfectly.
---------------------Trish--------------------------------------------------------------

 

[Ronx]

Glad you have things sorted now.

As for being a "pest": I learned a lot about FrontPage over the years from
"pests" such as yourself - all those questions, and the help from the
regulars in these forums - and I am still learning from other people's
problems.

Ron