font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

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I have just created a website using FrontPage's font Vrinda. We like the
look of the Vrinda font because it is a very spare, clean looking sans-serif
font.

The pages look great on my computer and on the other computer in our office.
Both of these computers are PC running Windows XP with IE 6.

I wanted to see what the pages would look like on another computer so I went
down the hall to another office and looked at our website with a Mac running
Netscape. I was dissapointed to see that the Vrinda font was showing up as
serif font looking like Times New Roman.

We want the look of a font like Vrinda or Helvettica. How can we make it so
that our web pages show up with a clean serif font on other computers?

Is there a way to lock the font on all computers and browsers?

Thank you,
John
Paia, Maui
 
Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the
computer that is viewing the page.

You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible
on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be
installed on their computer.

Microsoft has a tool for doing this:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics
for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any

non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
 
Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not many people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the computer that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be installed on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any
non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
 
You might be right, which is why I have only used the tool once when we
had a client that insisted on a certain non-standard font. IMO it's much
better to specify fonts that you know are on everyone's computer if you
want your site to look reasonably the same from one client to the next.
Also, it's a good idea to specify at least one secondary font that you
have tested as well, just in case.

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giordano (aka: Crash GordonR)
[mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:01 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not
many people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the
computer that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible
on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be
installed on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics
for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any

non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
 
Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeI don't let any fonts install on my machine...I keep getting pestered by Korean fonts in emails and junk - drives me nuts, like I can read Korean even it I let it install???.

One client insists on using Vivaldi which is pretty in print but really sucks in a web,,,no weight. I just tell them it won't work, and make gifs for small headlines.


You might be right, which is why I have only used the tool once when we had a client that insisted on a certain non-standard font. IMO it's much better to specify fonts that you know are on everyone's computer if you want your site to look reasonably the same from one client to the next. Also, it's a good idea to specify at least one secondary font that you have tested as well, just in case.
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®) [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:01 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not many people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the computer that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be installed on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any
non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
 
Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeIt's not
cross-browser/platform either, John. In other words, you gotta want it
really bad to even go to the trouble of using WEFT.

--
Murray

You might be right, which is why I have only used the tool once when we had
a client that insisted on a certain non-standard font. IMO it's much better
to specify fonts that you know are on everyone's computer if you want your
site to look reasonably the same from one client to the next. Also, it's a
good idea to specify at least one secondary font that you have tested as
well, just in case.
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giordano (aka: Crash Gordon®)
[mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:01 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not many
people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the computer
that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible on
all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be installed
on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any
non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
 
John,
How do I specify a secondary font?
Thanks,
John


John Kisha said:
You might be right, which is why I have only used the tool once when we
had a client that insisted on a certain non-standard font. IMO it's much
better to specify fonts that you know are on everyone's computer if you
want your site to look reasonably the same from one client to the next.
Also, it's a good idea to specify at least one secondary font that you
have tested as well, just in case.

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giordano (aka: Crash GordonR)
[mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:01 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not
many people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the
computer that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible
on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be
installed on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics
for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any

non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
--
Murray
john said:
I have just created a website using FrontPage's font Vrinda. We like the
look of the Vrinda font because it is a very spare, clean looking
sans-serif
font.

The pages look great on my computer and on the other computer in our
office.
Both of these computers are PC running Windows XP with IE 6.

I wanted to see what the pages would look like on another computer so I
went
down the hall to another office and looked at our website with a Mac
running
Netscape. I was dissapointed to see that the Vrinda font was showing up
as
serif font looking like Times New Roman.

We want the look of a font like Vrinda or Helvettica. How can we make it
so
that our web pages show up with a clean serif font on other computers?
Click to expand...
Is there a way to lock the font on all computers and browsers?

Thank you,
John
Paia, Maui
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Hi,
Start with your first choice font, then a second choice, then a mac
alternative, and finally serif (with twiddly bits) or sans serif (no twiddly
bits) eg
font-family: "Some Fancy Font", Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
or
font-family: "Some Fancy font", "Times New Roman", Times, serif;

--
Cheers,
Jon
Microsoft MVP


john said:
John,
How do I specify a secondary font?
Thanks,
John


John Kisha said:
You might be right, which is why I have only used the tool once when we
had a client that insisted on a certain non-standard font. IMO it's much
better to specify fonts that you know are on everyone's computer if you
want your site to look reasonably the same from one client to the next.
Also, it's a good idea to specify at least one secondary font that you
have tested as well, just in case.

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giordano (aka: Crash GordonR)
[mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:01 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not
many people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the
computer that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible
on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be
installed on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics
for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any

non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
--
Murray
john said:
I have just created a website using FrontPage's font Vrinda. We like the
look of the Vrinda font because it is a very spare, clean looking
sans-serif
font.

The pages look great on my computer and on the other computer in our
office.
Both of these computers are PC running Windows XP with IE 6.

I wanted to see what the pages would look like on another computer so I
went
down the hall to another office and looked at our website with a Mac
running
Netscape. I was dissapointed to see that the Vrinda font was showing up
as
serif font looking like Times New Roman.

We want the look of a font like Vrinda or Helvettica. How can we make it
so
that our web pages show up with a clean serif font on other computers?
Click to expand...
Is there a way to lock the font on all computers and browsers?

Thank you,
John
Paia, Maui
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Jon,
How do I specify thes first, second, etc. choices. Where do I input these
choices.
John

Jon Spivey said:
Hi,
Start with your first choice font, then a second choice, then a mac
alternative, and finally serif (with twiddly bits) or sans serif (no twiddly
bits) eg
font-family: "Some Fancy Font", Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
or
font-family: "Some Fancy font", "Times New Roman", Times, serif;

--
Cheers,
Jon
Microsoft MVP


john said:
John,
How do I specify a secondary font?
Thanks,
John


John Kisha said:
You might be right, which is why I have only used the tool once when we
had a client that insisted on a certain non-standard font. IMO it's much
better to specify fonts that you know are on everyone's computer if you
want your site to look reasonably the same from one client to the next.
Also, it's a good idea to specify at least one secondary font that you
have tested as well, just in case.

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giordano (aka: Crash GordonR)
[mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:01 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not
many people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the
computer that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible
on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be
installed on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics
for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any

non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
--
Murray
I have just created a website using FrontPage's font Vrinda. We like
the
look of the Vrinda font because it is a very spare, clean looking
sans-serif
font.

The pages look great on my computer and on the other computer in our
office.
Both of these computers are PC running Windows XP with IE 6.

I wanted to see what the pages would look like on another computer so
I
went
down the hall to another office and looked at our website with a Mac
running
Netscape. I was dissapointed to see that the Vrinda font was showing
up
as
serif font looking like Times New Roman.

We want the look of a font like Vrinda or Helvettica. How can we make
it
so
that our web pages show up with a clean serif font on other computers?


Is there a way to lock the font on all computers and browsers?

Thank you,
John
Paia, Maui
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
There are several ways, probably the easiest is to use the style
function in FP. Go to FORMAT | STYLES then select BODY and click on
MODIFY then click on FORMAT then FONT then choose the first font you
want to use. Close out of that menu and then go to CODE VIEW and you
will see a style entry in the head of your page. It will look similar to
the code Jon showed you in the previous post. Simply add the other fonts
you want the document to degrade to using Jon's example.

Good luck!

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: john [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 3:37 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

Jon,
How do I specify thes first, second, etc. choices. Where do I input
these
choices.
John

Jon Spivey said:
Hi,
Start with your first choice font, then a second choice, then a mac
alternative, and finally serif (with twiddly bits) or sans serif (no twiddly
bits) eg
font-family: "Some Fancy Font", Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
or
font-family: "Some Fancy font", "Times New Roman", Times, serif;

--
Cheers,
Jon
Microsoft MVP


john said:
John,
How do I specify a secondary font?
Thanks,
John


John Kisha said:
You might be right, which is why I have only used the tool once when we
had a client that insisted on a certain non-standard font. IMO it's much
better to specify fonts that you know are on everyone's computer if you
want your site to look reasonably the same from one client to the next.
Also, it's a good idea to specify at least one secondary font that you
have tested as well, just in case.

John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Giordano (aka: Crash GordonR)
[mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 2:01 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape

Re: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on NetscapeHowever not
many people are gonna let them be installed on their computers.


Fonts will only be visible on a site if they are installed on the
computer that is viewing the page.
You can "imbed" your fonts into the pages which will make them visible
on all computers by basically providing the fonts to the viewer to be
installed on their computer.
Microsoft has a tool for doing this:
http://www.microsoft.com/typography/web/embedding/weft/
John Kisha
Inland Pacific Consulting
http://www.VisitUsAt.com
323-463-8300
-----Original Message-----
From: Murray [mailto:[email protected]]
Posted At: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:31 PM
Posted To: microsoft.public.frontpage.client
Conversation: font: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Subject: Re: Vrinda showing up as Times New Roman on Netscape
Short of using something like sIFR
(http://www.mikeindustries.com/blog/archive/2004/08/sifr), or graphics
for
your cosmetically important stuff, there is no way to guarantee that any

non-websafe font face will appear on any given computer.
--
Murray
I have just created a website using FrontPage's font Vrinda. We like
the
look of the Vrinda font because it is a very spare, clean looking
sans-serif
font.

The pages look great on my computer and on the other computer in our
office.
Both of these computers are PC running Windows XP with IE 6.

I wanted to see what the pages would look like on another computer so
I
went
down the hall to another office and looked at our website with a Mac
running
Netscape. I was dissapointed to see that the Vrinda font was showing
up
as
serif font looking like Times New Roman.

We want the look of a font like Vrinda or Helvettica. How can we make
it
so
that our web pages show up with a clean serif font on other computers?


Is there a way to lock the font on all computers and browsers?

Thank you,
John
Paia, Maui
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