File and Folder Permissions

[tom]

I am trying to set permissions on an NTFS volume so that
users are not able to delete any files or folders but
they are still able to right to these folders. I can
remove the modify permission and enable the write
permission but when doing so , when the user attempts to
save a file to the the volume it appears to do nothing
then after about 15 seconds there is a dialog box that
appears stating that the file already exists would you
like to overwrite it. When you look at the path where you
saved the file the file name is there but the File is
empty, meaning the data withing the file is not saved. I
have also worked with the special permissions to try and
deny deleting but only to the same results.

Is there a way to enable a user to be able to read, write
and execute but at the same time deny them the ability to
delete folders. Do to the incidental mistakes by some
users in deleting files and folders on the file server,
this as become a real need to do, so that I do not have
to save their butts with restoring the data all the time.

Any help would be appreatiated.

 

[Michael Bednarek]

I am trying to set permissions on an NTFS volume so that
users are not able to delete any files or folders but
they are still able to right to these folders. I can
remove the modify permission and enable the write
permission but when doing so , when the user attempts to
save a file to the the volume it appears to do nothing
then after about 15 seconds there is a dialog box that
appears stating that the file already exists would you
like to overwrite it. When you look at the path where you
saved the file the file name is there but the File is
empty, meaning the data withing the file is not saved. I
have also worked with the special permissions to try and
deny deleting but only to the same results.

Is there a way to enable a user to be able to read, write
and execute but at the same time deny them the ability to
delete folders. Do to the incidental mistakes by some
users in deleting files and folders on the file server,
this as become a real need to do, so that I do not have
to save their butts with restoring the data all the time.

Any help would be appreatiated.

Which application is trying to write? MS Office? If so, forget it.

I believe you can't achieve what you want with MS Office, due to the
way it creates a temporary file which gets renamed and/or deleted on
the Save action.

To verify this, try to create a file from Explorer/New text file.

 

[Tom]

Yes it is with Microsoft Office files. I did not try with
any other format. I will attempt this with some other
programs althought it is kind of worthless since
everything we run is Microsoft. Thank you for the
responce.

 

[Phillip]

-----Original Message-----


Which application is trying to write? MS Office? If so, forget it.

I believe you can't achieve what you want with MS Office, due to the
way it creates a temporary file which gets renamed and/or deleted on
the Save action.

To verify this, try to create a file from Explorer/New text file.

--
Michael Bednarek
http://home.swiftdsl.com.au/~mbednarek/ "POST NO BILLS"

.
This is a problem with any Microsoft product including

Explorer. We have ran into the same problem with W2K
servers as well, this was an NT problem as well looks like
it was overlooked, I would bet that the same problem
exists with 03. Where is the security of files now
because the only way around this is to allow them delete
permissions? The hidden file that is created when you
open up a file does not match the save as file therefore
creating the error because you do not have permissions to
delete this which is why the new file is blank. Even
though you have permission to create the hidden algorithm
that was used to create the hidden file does not match
your new name there for only allowing you to create the
new file.