Extremely slow screen refresh in new Powerpoint 2007 version 12.0.4518.1014

[emeritus]

Running a presentation with 60 slides in an old computer with an old
Matrox Millennium P650 and in a brand new Core 2 Duo 6600 system with
4Gigs memory with nVidia 7300 results to the SAME 3 second time lag
when changing from presentation state to editing state with ESC.

Turning off hardware acceleration and write combining do NOT have ANY
measurable effect to this.

Old Powerpoint 2003 switches states so instantaneously it cannot be
measured at all.

When editing tens of slides hundreds of times, this 3 second lag
multiplied by hundreds of times is intolerable. It has coerced me to
return back to Powerpoint 2003.

Nothing to be done?

 

[emeritus]

Running a presentation with 60 slides in an old computer with an old
Matrox Millennium P650 and in a brand new Core 2 Duo 6600 system with
4Gigs memory with nVidia 7300 results to the SAME 3 second time lag
when changing from presentation state to editing state with ESC.

Turning off hardware acceleration and write combining do NOT have ANY
measurable effect to this.

Old Powerpoint 2003 switches states so instantaneously it cannot be
measured at all.

When editing tens of slides hundreds of times, this 3 second lag
multiplied by hundreds of times is intolerable. It has coerced me to
return back to Powerpoint 2003.

Nothing to be done?

....forgot to say that in Powerpoint 2007 starting the presentation
takes the same 3 seconds time as stopping it. This means that for
every small editing change takes about 6 seconds to wait wait wait...
This phenomena seems to be independent of computer speeds and graphics
cards. But Powerpoint 2007 cannot be tied to some real time clock
either??? Otherwise The screen SHOULD refresh faster in a faster
computer???

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

I see the same lag here. Do you have a particular need to switch between
both states constantly while editing?

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[emeritus]

Yes, I have a need to switch between both states while editing,
because my nature is an impatient perfectionist, who wants the layout
of all the objects and the different movements & other effects to be
accurately what I want. In develompment phase this really means
constant rapid cycling honing of every detail hundreds of times per
presentation. For this kind of work the 2003 version seems to be the
only alternative. Only the finishing touches could be perhaps done in
2007 without losing nerves.

I see the same lag here. Do you have a particular need to switch between
both states constantly while editing?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
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Running a presentation with 60 slides in an old computer with an old
Matrox Millennium P650 and in a brand new Core 2 Duo 6600 system with
4Gigs memory with nVidia 7300 results to the SAME 3 second time lag
when changing from presentation state to editing state with ESC.

Turning off hardware acceleration and write combining do NOT have ANY
measurable effect to this.

Old Powerpoint 2003 switches states so instantaneously it cannot be
measured at all.

When editing tens of slides hundreds of times, this 3 second lag
multiplied by hundreds of times is intolerable. It has coerced me to
return back to Powerpoint 2003.

Nothing to be done?

 

[Patrick Schmid [MVP]]

I understand, but I really don't know what to do about speeding it up...

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
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Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
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Yes, I have a need to switch between both states while editing,
because my nature is an impatient perfectionist, who wants the layout
of all the objects and the different movements & other effects to be
accurately what I want. In develompment phase this really means
constant rapid cycling honing of every detail hundreds of times per
presentation. For this kind of work the 2003 version seems to be the
only alternative. Only the finishing touches could be perhaps done in
2007 without losing nerves.

I see the same lag here. Do you have a particular need to switch between
both states constantly while editing?

Patrick Schmid [OneNote MVP]
--------------
http://pschmid.net
***
Office 2007 RTM Issues: http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/11/13/80
Office 2007 Beta 2 Technical Refresh (B2TR):
http://pschmid.net/blog/2006/09/18/43
***
Customize Office 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/customize
RibbonCustomizer Add-In: http://pschmid.net/office2007/ribboncustomizer
OneNote 2007: http://pschmid.net/office2007/onenote
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Running a presentation with 60 slides in an old computer with an old
Matrox Millennium P650 and in a brand new Core 2 Duo 6600 system with
4Gigs memory with nVidia 7300 results to the SAME 3 second time lag
when changing from presentation state to editing state with ESC.

Turning off hardware acceleration and write combining do NOT have ANY
measurable effect to this.

Old Powerpoint 2003 switches states so instantaneously it cannot be
measured at all.

When editing tens of slides hundreds of times, this 3 second lag
multiplied by hundreds of times is intolerable. It has coerced me to
return back to Powerpoint 2003.

Nothing to be done?

 

[Echo S]

FWIW, I'm not seeing the same lag here. I thought I might, especially since
I'm running on a virtual pc and everything seems a wee bit slower. I do see
a bit of a delay the first time I put a presentation into show view, but it
escapes quickly, and it shows quickly the second and subsequent times.

Perhaps it's got to do with the particular presentation? The one I tried is
actually available online -- File|New| and type Introducing PowerPoint 2007
in the searchbox, then choose Introduction to Microsoft Office PowerPoint
2007.

I would have suggested hardware acceleration; since it doesn't help, I don't
know what else to try.

 

[Kathy Jacobs]

Is the presentation a ppt or a pptx? I am wondering if the compatibility
mode is causing some of the lag...

Another thought I had: Does it do this on all presentations or just
presentations that were created in 2003, then brought into 2007? If so, does
the lag get any better if you create a new 2007 presentation and bring the
existing slides into it?
(I'm not seeing a lag here, so I can't test...)

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[emeritus]

The same lag remains in all those cases you describe. I tested
further, and became aware about the horrible truth that the same ca 3
seconds lag in presentation->editing-transition, and vice versa,
remains even in a completely NEW, unsaved presentation with even only
ONE slide. In 2003 the transition is instantaneous.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Running a presentation with 60 slides in an old computer with an old
Matrox Millennium P650 and in a brand new Core 2 Duo 6600 system with
4Gigs memory with nVidia 7300 results to the SAME 3 second time lag
when changing from presentation state to editing state with ESC.

Turning off hardware acceleration and write combining do NOT have ANY
measurable effect to this.

Old Powerpoint 2003 switches states so instantaneously it cannot be
measured at all.

When editing tens of slides hundreds of times, this 3 second lag
multiplied by hundreds of times is intolerable. It has coerced me to
return back to Powerpoint 2003.

Nothing to be done?

There must be *something* to be done because I don't see anything like this lag
here.

I'm on a relatively quick laptop but I'm running Office 2007 inside a virtual
machine (read: it should be relatively slow). It's switching from normal to
slideshow and back as fast as the video display will permit; nothing like a 3
second delay. So at least we know that the lag isn't inherent in the program.

One possible difference: the virtual machine's virtual video is quite low-end;
no dual monitors, and it's set for 1024x768x32-bit color. Try setting your
video to that (or 24-bit color if 32-bit's not available). Try also setting
the video hardware accelleration back.