Expanding 21% - reboot forever

[Guest]

I have tried to install Vista for more then 1 day now. Searched all over the
net for resources to help me get over this but nothing helped.

I am half the way trough the install and now I always have to press the
arrow to restore to old win version to not keep booting, each time i restart
my comp. I need an update not a clean install(now I know why I was advised to
not install vista on a work pc)

Run the advisor and apart from Nero which i unistalled, everything else was
fine.

My box:

p5w Asus deluxe
2 GB DDRAM
core 2 6700
nvidia 9750GX2
XP Proefessional

disk 1: c windows 25 GB - 10 Free , D - 35 GB , H - 15 GB unalocatted
disk 2,3 raid setup with 2 partistions

I have 2 problems. Is there any free tool to alow me add the h partition
space from disk 1 to C in order to have a 40 GB vista partition?

When the expading file reaches 21% it always restart(not 20 or 22 but always
21 - tried like 5 times)

Thanks in advance for any help!

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

I have tried to install Vista for more then 1 day now. Searched all over
the
net for resources to help me get over this but nothing helped.

I am half the way trough the install and now I always have to press the
arrow to restore to old win version to not keep booting, each time i
restart
my comp. I need an update not a clean install(now I know why I was advised
to
not install vista on a work pc)

Run the advisor and apart from Nero which i unistalled, everything else
was
fine.

My box:

p5w Asus deluxe
2 GB DDRAM
core 2 6700
nvidia 9750GX2
XP Proefessional

disk 1: c windows 25 GB - 10 Free , D - 35 GB , H - 15 GB unalocatted
disk 2,3 raid setup with 2 partistions

I have 2 problems. Is there any free tool to alow me add the h partition
space from disk 1 to C in order to have a 40 GB vista partition?

When the expading file reaches 21% it always restart(not 20 or 22 but
always
21 - tried like 5 times)

Thanks in advance for any help!

When you are at the point of selecting into which partition you wish to
install Vista are you clicking on the "Load Drivers" hyperlink and
installing the drivers for your SATA or RAID controller?

 

[Guest]

Shouldn't be loaded from my current xp configuration? I did installed a
driver using f6 on my current setup but i thought it will copy all
drivers/settings.

Is there any way to increase my C without buying partitionmagic/acronis....
with the unalotted space on same disk?

Is there any chance that the only 10GB free to cause a problem? They were
actually 15 before the Vista install so i think 5 gb is actually Vista files.

 

[Guest]

Also as an upgrade I see no option to upload driveers during the install
before the reboot.

One more thing that bothers me is that there is no BSOD. It still restarts
after trying to start windows even i tell it not to do it.

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

Also as an upgrade I see no option to upload driveers during the install
before the reboot.

One more thing that bothers me is that there is no BSOD. It still restarts
after trying to start windows even i tell it not to do it.

I missed the 10GB size. This may be causing the problem because Vista needs
around 16 GB for installation and around 10GB to function. Sorry about
that.

There are a few freeware partition tools available. I use PartitionMagic,
which is $70.00 USD (kind of expensive, I agree, if you only need it for one
or two operations) and have no direct experience with any others. However,
from what I have read on the newsgroups, Acronis is not recommended, but
Ranish is recommended, so try that one and see if you can expand the
partition to 20GB and also try a reformat.

It has been a while since I installed Vista, but I recall that after you
select "Custom Installation" the next screen lets you select the partition
and at that point, on the left side, there is a hyperlink that says "Load
Drivers." I may be wrong about this, but that is how I remember it.

I am not sure of the actual mechanics involved, but my understanding is that
once the installation process begins you are no longer using XP so any
driver that is not included on the Vista DVD will not be available.

There is no BSOD because there is no "hard stop" occurring. It actually is
a much safer way to correct a failed installation instead of leaving a user
with a non-bootable computer.

 

[Guest]

The 10 GB is the free space. The C is 25GB and has xp on it.

I am not willing to pay 70$ for a 1 time operation though increasing the
space that might help solve the problem. Anyone else managed to install with
only 10 GB free?

You are right about being asked for drivers after the custom install page.
Still I am only upgrading and there is no options in this case.

Also I understood the speed of DVD could be a problem I written at 8x and
then had to uninstall Vista just to notice now that i don't have the
installation CD with me(I just moved to another country). Any good tool to
write an ISO at 1-2X?

Thanks a lot for your answers

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

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The 10 GB is the free space. The C is 25GB and has xp on it.

I am not willing to pay 70$ for a 1 time operation though increasing the
space that might help solve the problem. Anyone else managed to install
with
only 10 GB free?

Use Ranish. Search online for it, it is a freeware partition manager that
come recommended by some very knowlegeable regulars here.

There have been a few instances of people installing to a 10GB partition,
but I can't see how, and I can't personally recommend it.

You are right about being asked for drivers after the custom install page.
Still I am only upgrading and there is no options in this case.

Not sure. I gave up trying to upgrade after the headaches with #5384.

Also I understood the speed of DVD could be a problem I written at 8x and
then had to uninstall Vista just to notice now that i don't have the
installation CD with me(I just moved to another country). Any good tool to
write an ISO at 1-2X?

I use Nero 6.x, and to be honest, I never had a bad Vista DVD burn at any
speed, but in reading the newsgroups I am certainly in the minority. I also
make sure to turn off as many apps and services as possible when I burn a
DVD, even my AV solution, and I used a fairly quick machine with loads of
RAM when I burned my Vista DVD's.

Try searching for DVD burning freeware on the 'net and in the newsgroup. I
think Alcohol 120% comes recommended here but I have never used it.

Also, make sure you have a good download. Search the newsgroup for "MD5"
and you will find the proper technique, the expectant outcome for the
various versions and also several freeware applications.

Thanks a lot for your answers

You are welcome, but unfortunately I don't seem to be helping!

 

[Guest]

Now this is making mad. If anyone please can help me.

I manged to increase the C to 40GB with 25 GB free.

I checked the MD5 values amd they are ok

The DVD is written at 1x.

When it gets to 21% of expanding files it restarts.

I really need to upgrade as if not is always trying to install it at startup.

Thanks

 

[John Barnes]

If you are upgrading, make sure to uninstall all programs warned about, and
your A/V Firewalls. Also try to have only your keyboard and mouse connected
and no USB devices.

 

[Guest]

done all of this.

the restart is in the middle of expanding. happening at 21% each time it
should have some relevance. maybe someone knows what happens at that
particular time?

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

done all of this.

the restart is in the middle of expanding. happening at 21% each time it
should have some relevance. maybe someone knows what happens at that
particular time?

I know for a fact that with Build 5384, a failure at 21% of expanding files
was caused by a lack of drivers for a SATA controller, and with subsequent
builds this is most likely still true. There are probably 50-60 different
threads about this in the Vista newsgroups. Just because the drivers are
already installed in XP has no bearing on the Vista installation when
upgrading.

Vista upgrades a previous Windows version by placing the existing files into
a folder called "windows.old" first, then does a clean install, then
installs any applications that were previously installed and migrates
whatever settings and documents it can. Because of the new way that the
upgrade is done, you still have to supply these drivers during the
installation.

 

[Guest]

well it never ask for drivers.

I know for a fact that with Build 5384, a failure at 21% of expanding files
was caused by a lack of drivers for a SATA controller, and with subsequent
builds this is most likely still true. There are probably 50-60 different
threads about this in the Vista newsgroups. Just because the drivers are
already installed in XP has no bearing on the Vista installation when
upgrading.

Vista upgrades a previous Windows version by placing the existing files into
a folder called "windows.old" first, then does a clean install, then
installs any applications that were previously installed and migrates
whatever settings and documents it can. Because of the new way that the
upgrade is done, you still have to supply these drivers during the
installation.

 

[Mark D. VandenBerg]

Yes, you are correct in that it does not explicitly ask for the drivers.
That does not mean it does not need the drivers any more than a tree does
not ask for water but still needs water.

When you are at the screen that offers the different partitions for
installation, put whatever media you have loaded your drivers to (and the
drivers must be in the root of the media), load the media into the
appropriate drive, click on the "Load Drivers" hyperlink and if necessary
navigate to your drivers.

 

[Guest]

Looks like my problem is coming from the fact I do not want a clean install.

There is no screen for drivers at the upgrade. I also updated the bios with
no help. 21% is as far as installation go.

Mark thanks for your help. I will still search and try few things as this is
driving me crazy but it looks there is not solution for me till the official
release.