eTrust EZ ArmorSecurity Suite

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Quoth the raven Pop Rivet:

Do you have any idea how meaningless that post was? One
unverified, implausible comment, and one link; with zero,
nada, backup of any kind.

Actually, it was a very meaningful post.

The link given tells you all you need to know to keep yourself from
doing stupid things that require the use of an a-v program. How will
your mail scanning work on the latest virus that isn't in your a-v
program's database yet?

You don't depend on your a-v program, do you?

 

[Heather]

I have used it for 3 or 4 years, and the new version (pay one) certainly
does check downloading email........and I hate that. So I make sure it is
downloaded in Mailwasher.....and they do too have support. They have been
very helpful over the years. Maybe you need a pay version. But back when
it was the free InoculateIT PE, they had support then too.

Oops...I top-posted.....oh well. I slip now and again. ))

Heather

 

[FromTheRafters]

Do you have any idea how meaningless that post was? One
unverified, implausible comment, and one link; with zero,
nada, backup of any kind.

Actually, I found that post to be succinct.

 

[FromTheRafters]

I haven't been following this thread, but ... e-trust does
in fact check incoming email, just not outgoing,

Test questions:

What good is scanning outgoing e-mail?

What possible harm to others could it incur?

 

[FromTheRafters]

Miscreant!

I have used it for 3 or 4 years, and the new version (pay one) certainly
does check downloading email........and I hate that. So I make sure it is
downloaded in Mailwasher.....and they do too have support. They have been
very helpful over the years. Maybe you need a pay version. But back when
it was the free InoculateIT PE, they had support then too.

Oops...I top-posted.....oh well. I slip now and again. ))

Heather

 

[Heather]

Anal!!

Miscreant!

 

[Ant]

If yer gonna top post, do it tidily. See how I've cleaned up your
quoting so it's relevant, and reads easily (from bottom up)?

 

[Heather]

OK, Dad.....and I bet you are a Virgo!! It looks loverly. I will try and
remember to 'tidy up' the bottom parts.......grin.

Figgs

If yer gonna top post, do it tidily. See how I've cleaned up your
quoting so it's relevant, and reads easily (from bottom up)?

Anal!!

Miscreant!
"Heather" wrote: [...]
Oops...I top-posted.....oh well. I slip now and again. ))

 

[musiclover]

I got the program right from CA's site. It's still the free version
they are giving out to RoadRunner customers.
And no... there is no email scanning within the program whatsoever.
I use Outpost firewall... which IMO is a very good firewall.

 

[musiclover]

Outgoing email scanning is worthless. If you DO have a virus on your
'puter.... hopefully you'd know it.
It's the incomming email that I would like inspected by an AV
program... that's all.

 

[musiclover]

I also use MailWasher. I suppose using MailWasher negates the need
for scanning incomming email for trojans and worms?

I really don't know... but I'm assuming.

ML

 

[Ant]

OK, Dad.....and I bet you are a Virgo!!

No Mum, I'm a Leo, but I'm told not a typical Leo, whatever that
means.

It looks loverly.
Sweet.

I will try and remember to 'tidy up' the bottom parts.......

Naturally, I hope you will remember to quote correctly. A well
formed Usenet article is a pleasure to read, wouldn't you say?

grin.

 

[Heather]

Yes it does 'negate the need'. I just delete spam and viruses from the
server. But if I forget and hit Send in OE without checking Mailwasher
first, the odd time there is an email with a virus attachment that downloads
and EZ Trust then goes off as it downloads....PITA!! I have OE set up so
that all attachments go into their own folder anyway.

Cheers......Heather

 

[Heather]

...

No Mum, I'm a Leo, but I'm told not a typical Leo, whatever that
means.

Don't tell anyone, but I used to teach astrology at night school!! A
typical Leo loves to be centre stage and adores attention. Just for
starters. How's your back, btw??

Cheers.....Heather

 

[FromTheRafters]

I also use MailWasher. I suppose using MailWasher negates the need
for scanning incomming email for trojans and worms?

Some would say (I, for one) that there never was a *need* to scan
incoming e-mail (automataically anyway). But some do desire it, and
if it helps them to avoid worms and viruses then so be it. Their ability
to avoid hosting them is good for the rest of us in the long run.

As to your statement about MailWasher, you should also be careful
of the possibility that something arrives in your ISP's mailserver in
between the time that you purged it of undesireables, and the time
that you allow your e-mail client to download what is left. If you
have used MailWasher it for some time, you may have noticed an
occasional spam makes it through the cracks - the same could be
said for some malware.

I really don't know... but I'm assuming.

I think that it is good that you asked.

 

[Heather]

Some would say (I, for one) that there never was a *need* to scan
incoming e-mail (automataically anyway).

I agree, young lad.....I never wanted my downloading email to be scanned and
now the new EZ Trust version is doing just that. If I could turn that
function off, I would. In fact, I think I will prowl around EZ Trust and
see if I can.

As to your statement about MailWasher, you should also be careful
of the possibility that something arrives in your ISP's mailserver in
between the time that you purged it of undesireables, and the time
that you allow your e-mail client to download what is left. If you
have used MailWasher it for some time, you may have noticed an
occasional spam makes it through the cracks - the same could be
said for some malware.

Agree again.......the only time EZ Trust catches a virus email is in that
tiny interval you mention. Or...if I forget and hit Send without checking
MW first. I find it amazing that the durned Viagra spams get thru in the 2
seconds it takes to switch to OE. I have OE set not to check for
mail......Mailwasher does.

I think that it is good that you asked.

And equally good that you explained it more fully than I did. (G)

Figgs

 

[Ant]

...

Don't tell anyone, but I used to teach astrology at night school!! A
typical Leo loves to be centre stage and adores attention. Just for
starters.

I think that's where I'm atypical. I enjoy a little attention now and
again, but prefer to stand in the wings.

How's your back, btw??

My back? Fine ATM. Why?

 

[FromTheRafters]

Outgoing email scanning is worthless. If you DO have a virus on your
'puter.... hopefully you'd know it.

Worse, it may give the less savvy a false sense of security as well if
it attaches an advertisement that it was scanned by [pick a vendor].

It's the incomming email that I would like inspected by an AV
program... that's all.

Yet both options are really just marketing ploys designed to make
some believe that their AV program offering has more worthwhile
options than their competitior's. E-mail scanning does have its good
points for those users that can't be bothered to scan them manually
and keep their e-mail client software secure, but that is a recipe for
disaster anyway - with or without AV software scanning e-mail on
arrival.

 

[null]

Yet both options are really just marketing ploys designed to make
some believe that their AV program offering has more worthwhile
options than their competitior's. E-mail scanning does have its good
points for those users that can't be bothered to scan them manually
and keep their e-mail client software secure, but that is a recipe for
disaster anyway - with or without AV software scanning e-mail on
arrival.

And it's so easy to simply delete all unsolicited attackments. Email
scanning is not "safe hex".


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg

 

[Alex Makoque]

I also got it from RoadRunner. The program has NO e-mail support. No
email scanning for virus or trojans or worms.

What good is an antivirus program if it doesn't scan your incomming
email?

I use Eudora for email, and email attachments are saved in an
attachments dir, when they are downloaded. I would assume, that as
soon as the file is created, it would be checked by the real time
virus monitor?

With OE i think that all attachments are stored in one big intray.mbx,
so am I correct in thinking that such attachments wouln't be scanned
by EZ? But surely, if you extract the attachment it will be scanned
upon creation?

I downloaded the EZ Amor package today, and hope to use it after my
free 30 trial with Kaspersky runs out.....

Al.