errors on disk

[Gene E. Bloch]

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This is from the administrator prompt:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk C: /R
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Cannot lock current drive.

Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N) y

This volume will be checked the next time the system restarts.

C:\Windows\system32>

When I restart, it just reboots normally.

So it tells you it is setting the 'dirty bit' - but doesn't seem to have an
effect.

Backups are still important.

Having your Windows DVD (preferrably one with the same service pack you have
installed on the running system integrated into it) will be needed...

Open an elevated command prompt and type in:
sfc /scannow
and press enter.

Reboot afterwards and try to do the CHKDSK again (it will require its own
reboot.)

You may be able to boot with the Windows Vista DVD and do a repair on the
system as well. If the above fails - try this.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-happened-to-the-Recovery-Console

Failing that - I still suggest the use of the BartPE/Ultimate Windows Boot
CD. You could do a CHKDSK from there, use other tools to copy your stuff,
image the partition, check the drive for issues, etc.

As far as copying your stuff to an external disk drive (USB drive, network
drive, etc...) - copying *your stuff* is easy... Drag/drop. You might be
able to use the BartPE/Ultimate Windows Boot CD to make an image of the
entire partition/disk with some of its tools.

However - even with that - I would copy your important data independently.
Documents, music, pictures, emails, bookmarks/Internet Favorites, contacts,
installable executables, serial numbers, product keys, etc...

I would recommend that JS use a good image backup program, such as Macrium
Reflect (my favorite) or Acronis True Image. Macrium has a free version.

There are also cloning programs, such as Casper (which I also use), and the
free EASEUS Disk Copy, which runs from a bootable CD.

Any of these creates the whole disk, Windows, installed programs, data and
documents, everything. Including viruses or bugs, if you back up at the
wrong time :-(

 

[JS]

Hi Folks!
I still have a problem here. McAfee ran it's usual weekly scan and froze on
the same file that it has stopped on,on 4-5 times before.
the file is;"C:\windows\winsys\x86_m...da51be87b32\kartika.ttf "
I managed to get the laptop backed up(I think) but there is still something
wrong.Per the last posts, I still cannot chkdsk.
Is there anything peculiar about that file?
Other than this freeze issue, it runs ok.
Any suggestions?

JS

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http://groups.google.com/group/micr...a.general/browse_frm/thread/cd1108f51e627461/

This is from the administrator prompt:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6002]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>chkdsk C: /R
The type of the file system is NTFS.
Cannot lock current drive.

Chkdsk cannot run because the volume is in use by another
process. Would you like to schedule this volume to be
checked the next time the system restarts? (Y/N) y

This volume will be checked the next time the system restarts.

C:\Windows\system32>

When I restart, it just reboots normally.

So it tells you it is setting the 'dirty bit' - but doesn't seem to have
an
effect.

Backups are still important.

Having your Windows DVD (preferrably one with the same service pack you
have
installed on the running system integrated into it) will be needed...

Open an elevated command prompt and type in:
sfc /scannow
and press enter.

Reboot afterwards and try to do the CHKDSK again (it will require its own
reboot.)

You may be able to boot with the Windows Vista DVD and do a repair on the
system as well. If the above fails - try this.
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-vista/What-happened-to-the-Recovery-Console

Failing that - I still suggest the use of the BartPE/Ultimate Windows
Boot
CD. You could do a CHKDSK from there, use other tools to copy your
stuff,
image the partition, check the drive for issues, etc.

As far as copying your stuff to an external disk drive (USB drive,
network
drive, etc...) - copying *your stuff* is easy... Drag/drop. You might be
able to use the BartPE/Ultimate Windows Boot CD to make an image of the
entire partition/disk with some of its tools.

However - even with that - I would copy your important data
independently.
Documents, music, pictures, emails, bookmarks/Internet Favorites,
contacts,
installable executables, serial numbers, product keys, etc...

I would recommend that JS use a good image backup program, such as Macrium
Reflect (my favorite) or Acronis True Image. Macrium has a free version.

There are also cloning programs, such as Casper (which I also use), and
the
free EASEUS Disk Copy, which runs from a bootable CD.

Any of these creates the whole disk, Windows, installed programs, data and
documents, everything. Including viruses or bugs, if you back up at the
wrong time :-(

 

[Nil]

I still have a problem here. McAfee ran it's usual weekly scan and
froze on the same file that it has stopped on,on 4-5 times before.
the file is;"C:\windows\winsys\x86_m...da51be87b32\kartika.ttf "
I managed to get the laptop backed up(I think) but there is still
something wrong.Per the last posts, I still cannot chkdsk.
Is there anything peculiar about that file?
Other than this freeze issue, it runs ok.
Any suggestions?

It would be helpful if you had included the complete path, so we could
made a better guess at what it's doing there. I don't know if
kartika.ttf is one of Microsoft's fonts or not. I have it on my system.
I can send you a copy if you like.

I'm guessing you have a bad spot on your disk, and it's right where
that font file is stored. I would try copying it to another location on
the disk, or to a floppy, a flash drive, or another hard disk. Then
delete the original. Now try CHKDSK. You might find, though

Have you tried restarting the computer in safe mode? Maybe CHKDSK will
run from there.

Have you uninstalled McAfee? There are lots of reports of it causing
various problems with systems. I would remove it, and after you get a
successful disk check, you can reinstall it if you feel you must (there
are other, less problematic virus scanners out there.)

You might try the Vista Recovery Disk:

<http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/>

I made one for myself, but I haven't had time to test it out yet.

 

[JS]

Dave,
Thanks for the suggestion. I got to the log, but none said "cannot open
volume for direct access" . a few said something about "did not load
driver".

JS

 

[JS]

Nil,

I thought what I wrote is the path. What else do I need to include?
If the file is a font,and I don't use it, could I just delete it? Or would
this problem show up on another file in the same location?

I'll start trying your other ideas.

Thanks,
JS

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, JS.

Your post said:
That shows the beginning of the path, and the ending. But the critical
middle foldernames are obscured by the ellipsis: "..."

What comes BETWEEN the "x86_m" and "da51"?

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64

 

[Nil]

I thought what I wrote is the path. What else do I need to
include? If the file is a font,and I don't use it, could I just
delete it? Or would this problem show up on another file in the
same location?

The path you mentioned is incomplete. Here's the path to my copy of
the file - it may be the same as yours:

C:\Windows\winsxs\x86_microsoft-windows-font-truetype-kartika_31bf3856ad364e35_6.0.6000.16386_none_07f55da51be87b32\kartika.ttf

You can probably get away without that font, but it may be used by
the system, so you might need to replace it later. I don't know for
sure. You also might find that Windows replaces it with a backup
copy. That would be OK if it did.

You also might find that once you eliminate that file, that your
scan hangs on a different file that is also stored in that bad area.
You need to do a successful CHKDSK as soon as possible so that bad
physical spots on the disk will be flagged as such and won't be used
by the system any more.

I'll start trying your other ideas.

Good luck.

 

[JS]

Nil,
I will try to get a complete path of that file. In the meantime, I did F8
again and ran the "repair the computer" and again everything came out
successful. Is this the same as chkdsk? Could it be missing this spot?

JS

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

Nil,
I will try to get a complete path of that file. In the meantime, I did F8
again and ran the "repair the computer" and again everything came out
successful. Is this the same as chkdsk? Could it be missing this spot?

Repair and chkdsk are completely different. Repair replaces files and
registry stuff. Chkdsk works on the underlying file system and hardware.

You need to run chkdsk.

 

[JS]

I am still trying to figure out how. I looked on the cd,and it wanted to
reinstall, does the cd have a repair feature on it so I don't have to
reinstall?

Jim

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I am still trying to figure out how. I looked on the cd,and it wanted to
reinstall, does the cd have a repair feature on it so I don't have to
reinstall?

They used to. I have no idea about current DVDs.

You have to watch all the options as they go by and pick the correct one.
It's documented somewhere, but I don't have a link. Google for "Windows
Repair Installation". Note that you have to type an R to get there, but, in
order to create confusion, there are two unrelated places where R is a
choice, and they are *not* the same. I know because I've chosen the wrong
one