Epson stylus photo 870

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George Bolgar

Having said it has only happened twice, it's now clogged again, and has
not cleared after 4 head cleaning cycles. I was only just using it,
quite happily, in the early hours of yesterday morning. Yes, I know
that the temperature has been getting a bit warmer the past few days,
but a long way from getting hot and dry.

Any ideas about what is likely to clear it, if 4 head cleaning cycles
don't (preferably without wasting my entire remaining ink - albeit, the
black is almost empty anyway).

Thanks,

George.
 
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George Bolgar

Please ignore my last message.

Having read some of the other comments on this list regarding head
cleaning, I got hold of some surgical spirits (ethanol); took out the
black cartridge (which was giving me the most trouble); put a few drops
of alcohol on the cartridge, using a drinking straw; replaced the
cartridge; and it is all working beautifully again (even the magenta,
that was giving a slight problem, seems to have cleared itself).

George.
 
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Arthur Entlich

I've been reading this thread with some interest.

There are a number of things which can cause inkjet head clogs. Also,
some of the causes for loss of ink on paper are not actually clogs.

I have worked with many Epson printers over the years, and I also have
helped thousands of people with clogging problems. I won't imply that I
know every nuance of Epson printers, but I have a pretty good
understanding of what causes problems with ink reaching the paper, and
some of the fixes.

Causes of actual ink clogs are numerous, and include:

Type of ink used.

Epson itself makes a wide variety of ink types. They break down to
basically two formulations, dye based and pigmented based, but within
those broader categories are many variations. Beyond that, there are
dozens if not hundreds of third party products in both dye and pigmented
formulations. Some formulations don't mix well. Some are poorly
formulated and end up too heavy bodied or dry too rapidly. Some have
contaminants or use pigment grains that are too large. Some have
pigments which clump. Some people fail to shake their pigmented ink
cartridges prior to installation, which helps to distribute the pigment
back into the ink carriers.

Epson inks use glycols in them which are heavy bodied and slow
evaporating chemicals which help to keep the ink heads from drying on
their surface. Some 3rd party inks may not have adequate amounts of
glycols.

The largest cause of actual clogs is when the ink under the head dries
or accumulates. Epson printers have ink wipers which are supposed to
remove the excess ink that develops under the head, but the wiper itself
gets contaminated over time, and isn't efficient as a result. Slowly,
ink solids begin to build up and clog the nozzles.

Pigmented inks are more vulnerable to buildup, since the ink has more
solids in it.

Other problems that can occur are if the cleaning station doesn't seal
the head on shut down. This can occur because the parts are not up to
tolerance when put together at the factory, or someone turns the printer
off via a power bar rather than the on/off switch on the printer. Again,
ink build up can cause the seal to be incomplete or distorted.

Yes, lower humidity tends to cause the inks to dry more rapidly, and
this build up under the head is more likely then. As also mentioned, a
dusty environment, paper dust, animal hair, etc can all add to problems.

If the cleaning station gets clogged up with old ink, it can reduce the
efficiency of the cleaning cycles. making clogs harder to resolve. On
some older printers, there is a valve that is supposed to move within
the cleaning station to open and close an air access. If this remains
open the heads will dry when on the cleaning station platform.

Not all "clogs" are clogs. The cause can be a dried out ink cartridge
which has too dense inks to move, there can be air bubbles within the
cartridge leading to intermittent printing, especially on refilled
cartridges. If there is an air vent on the cartridge, and it is
clogged, ink starvation can occur, where no air is supplied to replace
the ink used, causing pseudo clogs especially during heavy ink yield images.

The reason there are such contradictory experiences with inkjet printers
is because there are so many environmental variables, and variation at
manufacture.

Most inkjet printers with permanent heads will require some cleaning
maintenance at some point in their lives. Most of the fixes are
relatively easy and inexpensive to accomplish. As someone mentioned the
use of a ammoniated window cleaner can resolve many clogs. It is not
always necessary to remove the cartridges to do that, and in some cases
you can reuse cartridges you might have removed.

If anyone would like a free copy of my Epson Cleaning Manual, which
explains how to resolve most clogging and many other problems that may
show up, just email me using the address this message originated from (I
do not respond to public newsgroup request for the manual, sorry).

Art
 
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aprestn5

aprestn5 said:
I've tried this trick on my 860, but the paper never comes out anything
BUT clean and dry - looks like not even the Windex is getting through.

After taking the covers off my 860 to more closely examine the head cleaning
parts and sequence, and comparing same to my wife's Epson 777, it appears
the reason the ink (or Windex) isn't getting through the head is a
mechanical fault. On the 777 there are two springs that support the actual
head cap and push it up against the head during cleaning and when parked;
these are absent on my 860. I can see that the cap isn't sealing against
the head, hence no suction to pull fluid through and nothing to keep air
from the nozzles while the printer is off.

Al Preston
 
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aprestn5

aprestn5 said:
After taking the covers off my 860 to more closely examine the head
cleaning parts and sequence, and comparing same to my wife's Epson 777, it
appears the reason the ink (or Windex) isn't getting through the head is a
mechanical fault. On the 777 there are two springs that support the actual
head cap and push it up against the head during cleaning and when parked;
these are absent on my 860. I can see that the cap isn't sealing against
the head, hence no suction to pull fluid through and nothing to keep air
from the nozzles while the printer is off.

Addendum: The missing spring theory has proved correct....
After finding a couple of springs of approximately the right length and
tension and placing them in position in the head capping mechanism, the
printer works. Still needs a proper cleaning, but much better than no
printing at all!

Al Preston
 

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