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Man-wai Chang

Does those ePrint printers actually carry a email server?

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VanguardLH

Man-wai Chang said:
Does those ePrint printers actually carry a email server?

1 line in the body.
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7 lines for the signature.

If spamminess was measured by sig lines divided by total lines, your
post is VERY spammy.

What was the question again? I forgot after wading through all the
trash at the end of your post. Oh yeah, does ePrint work yet?

http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/05/hp-photosmart-d110a-eprint-printer-earns-5-star-reviews-despite/

So back at ya, has HP published a software update yet to get it working?

By sending an e-mail somewhere, you can have this printer punch out the
attachments to it. Well, that'll work if the printer has an always on
broadband connection to the Internet and there is no outage in that
service. Of course, you sending the e-mail means you are NOT at the
printer to actually pickup the printouts. So you end up not getting the
printouts until you get home where you could just do the printing of
attachments in e-mails that you sent to your own mailbox.

Wonder how they regulate just which e-mails will get their content or
attachments printed. If there isn't any, oh how wonderful it will be
for malcontents to flood the e-mail address for the web-connected
printer to waste all its paper and ink, or printing out all those spam
e-mails sent to the special e-mail address.

Those Who Prefer Their Spam in Hardcopy
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/...for-those-who-prefer-their-spam-in-hard-copy/

"The first level [of protection] is a unique ePrint email address that
can only be shared by the person who owns the printer.

All e-mail addresses are unique. Vulnerability of a mailbox to spam is
not solely from how you choose to distribute your e-mail address to
others (i.e., who you tell it to). Spam mostly goes to generated e-mail
addresses whether there exists such accounts or not. Spammers aren't
looking for an open invite.

"The second is that, just like with email, customers will have a spam
filter that allows them to create a “white list†on HP's ePrintCenter to
ensure they only receive prints from email addresses that they know."

Oh goodie, yet another account where you have to maintain a whitelist.
Wonder if they let you import a list of contacts and let you allow
e-mails from known senders. Of course, that doesn't help when someone
in your whitelist gets infected with a mailer trojan who also happens to
have you in their address book.

Neither protection eliminates anyone, including those you know, from
deciding that you just have to have their photo album of babies or their
latest vacation with each at high resolution with max color depth.

Unless their e-mail account they provide allows for defining rules where
you can specify only e-mails are accepted that have your secret passcode
(one for just your own use) then forget about a budget on paper and ink.
Others will be using it up for you because, gee, they don't have to pay
for the consumption of your supplies.

Of course, since it is THEIR managed e-mail services, any spam they
chose to drop into your mailbox won't be affected by whitelists and
filters. Read their TOS. It probably says they may send you
"interesting" or important messages at times which may originate from
them or someone they designate as their "affiliate". And since you now
have a business relationship with them, it legally isn't spam anymore.
Oooh look, HP is advertising a sale on a pack of 10 color ink cartridges
that they just know you must want to read.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14164-hp-testing-out-spamming-new-cloud-eprint-printer-line/

Sometimes you have to wonder about consumers that never think things
through.
 
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Man-wai Chang

Unless their e-mail account they provide allows for defining rules where
you can specify only e-mails are accepted that have your secret passcode
(one for just your own use) then forget about a budget on paper and ink.
Others will be using it up for you because, gee, they don't have to pay
for the consumption of your supplies.

U meant I needed to send the picture to HP's mail server which then
route the message back to my ePrint printer? Not a direct transmission
from my iPad, for example, to the printer?

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VanguardLH

Man-wai Chang said:
U meant I needed to send the picture to HP's mail server which then
route the message back to my ePrint printer? Not a direct transmission
from my iPad, for example, to the printer?

You don't know how e-mail clients work? You e-mail to an account. It
sits there until the e-mail client (in the printer) retrieves your
e-mail - all of them from there (and that includes e-mails you sent and
e-mails sent by others, like spammers).
 
M

Man-wai Chang

You don't know how e-mail clients work? You e-mail to an account. It
sits there until the e-mail client (in the printer) retrieves your
e-mail - all of them from there (and that includes e-mails you sent and
e-mails sent by others, like spammers).

I knew how to set up a mail server (Sendmail & Postfix) on Linux. My
question was whether the ePrint printers has a mail server onboard?

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VanguardLH

Man-wai Chang said:
I knew how to set up a mail server (Sendmail & Postfix) on Linux. My
question was whether the ePrint printers has a mail server onboard?

What about HP's description that the ePrint *printer* contacts an e-mail
address? It wouldn't be doing that if it had its own mail server built
into the printer. HP is operating the mail server. The printer is just
another e-mail client.

You could do your own work by reading up on the topic:

http://h30495.www3.hp.com/
"sending to your printer's email address"

You thought each printer had its own domain (already prepaid infinite
lease) along with its own nameserver to resolve the lookups? Where did
you think the domain for the e-mail addresses was registered? You
thought HP was going to relinquish their registered eprint domains to
you? You thought they were going to permit unknowns from operating
nameservers and mail servers under their registered domains?
 
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Man-wai Chang

You thought each printer had its own domain (already prepaid infinite
lease) along with its own nameserver to resolve the lookups? Where did
you think the domain for the e-mail addresses was registered? You
thought HP was going to relinquish their registered eprint domains to
you? You thought they were going to permit unknowns from operating
nameservers and mail servers under their registered domains?

I suppose a mobile gadget could talk to private subnet IP address like
192.168.1.11, right?

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