Email link that hides from SPAM worms?

[Guest]

Dear sir
I change my email address about every 4 months because the SPAM worms crawl into my site and lift my email address. Is there a way to have a button that shortcuts to creating an email and somehow hide it from the worm crawlers
I own Frontpage 2003 and would very much appreciate a reply
David Kenned
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Tom Pepper Willett]

....and by posting it in the newsgroup, you can expect a lot more spam, and
many swen virus messages.

The short answer is "no".
You can also search this group for similar messages which will explain about
using asp forms and/or databases so your email address is not listed on the
site.
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Dear sir,
I change my email address about every 4 months because the SPAM worms

crawl into my site and lift my email address. Is there a way to have a
button that shortcuts to creating an email and somehow hide it from the worm
crawlers?

 

[Jim Buyens]

Sir?

You can try to fake out spam worms with code like:

<script>document.write('<a mailto:"' +
'sales' +
'@' +
'itracker' +
'.' +
'com' + '">Contact Us</a>');
</script>

but eventually the spammers are going to figure that out
to. The only 100% sure cure is to have the Web visitor
fill out a form and submit it to the Web server for
mailing. That way, your e-mail address never goes out to
the visitor's browsers.

Of course, if configuring the server-side form mailer
requires that you put the "To" e-mail address in a hidden
form field or e-mail comments, the spam worms will be able
to pick those up, too. The FrontPage Save Results
component suffers from this problem.

For a server-side solution that never sends your address
to the browser, refer to:

Mailing Form Data
http://www.interlacken.com/winnt/tips/tipshow.aspx?tip=46

However, that solution does require a Windows Web server
and some programming skills.

Jim Buyens
Microsoft FrontPage MVP
http://www.interlacken.com
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-----Original Message-----
Dear sir,
I change my email address about every 4 months because

the SPAM worms crawl into my site and lift my email
address. Is there a way to have a button that shortcuts to
creating an email and somehow hide it from the worm
crawlers?

 

[Mike Mueller]

There are 2 options I am aware of that can solve this for
you.

Option#1 is to use javascript. I don't know the specifics
on it, so I can't tell you how it works.

Option 2, which I use is to not have any email addresses on
the site. Instead I have the visitors fill out a form and I
use a custom ASP page to assemble an email and send it off.
That is all done server side so the nasties can't get it.
Seeings the info is on a form, you can just have a pull down
also for all the recipients or no recipient box it all. It
works out quite nicely.

The FP form handler can be confugured to send email, but the
address is visible in the page source, so it can be
harvested

Mike


: Dear sir,
: I change my email address about every 4 months because the
SPAM worms crawl into my site and lift my email address. Is
there a way to have a button that shortcuts to creating an
email and somehow hide it from the worm crawlers?
: I own Frontpage 2003 and would very much appreciate a
reply.
: David Kennedy
: (e-mail address removed)

 

[Steve Easton]

I've been tinkering with using an external javascript file to contain the address and then
calling them with an onclick function like this:

create a function in the external.js file like this:

function steve(){
open(href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=testing");
}

Then load the script with this in the head tags of the page:

<script language="javascript" src="external.js">
</script>


Then trigger the function with an onclick event from a button on the page

<input type="button" value="Email" onclick="steve()">

You could also use the onclick with an image.

For more than one address create a function for each address.



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Dear sir,
I change my email address about every 4 months because the SPAM worms crawl into my site

and lift my email address. Is there a way to have a button that shortcuts to creating an
email and somehow hide it from the worm crawlers?

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

The only issue I see with the JavaScript approach is that you can not do a search and replace
easily.

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[Jack Brewster]

You could modify Jim's example code to make it easier. Instead of stating
the address elements directly in the string, build it from variables with
unique names. And to really mix things up, why not use vars for each bit of
the addres, including the @ and '.' (whether or not that kind of obfuscation
works...<shrug>), for example:

<script>
var addname = 'sales';
var adddomain = 'itracker';
var addextension = 'com';
var addat = '@';
var adddot = '.';

document.write('<a href="mailto:' +
addname +
addat +
adddomain +
adddot +
addextension +
'">Contact Us</a>');
</script>

Alternatively, if you're going to use a JavaScript method, why not just link
to an external .js file? That would do away with the need for search and
replace since you'd only have to look in one place.

 

[Andrew Murray]

Another similar question - generally regarding forms related to the above
subject.

first, specifically frontpage (form handler) - can spam harvesters detect the
email address within the web bot tag/code when using the fp form handler? If you
view source, you can see the email address in the 'action/method' bit of the form
tag.

Second, can spam harvesters spot email addresses within <input type=hidden> tags
as is common when using form processor scripts - CGI, PHP, ASP (that is, if the
email address is not coded into the script itself) and the like, as opposed to
<mailto:> tags (which are the obvious target, but are the other methods using a
form also suseptible?

Is this correct? I know the safest way to avoid spam is not to use email!
however, some scripts also have the email address coded into the script which
apparently then are invisible to spam harvesters - if they can scan html pages
why not script files for email addresses?

...and by posting it in the newsgroup, you can expect a lot more spam, and
many swen virus messages.

The short answer is "no".
You can also search this group for similar messages which will explain about
using asp forms and/or databases so your email address is not listed on the
site.
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Dear sir,
I change my email address about every 4 months because the SPAM worms

crawl into my site and lift my email address. Is there a way to have a
button that shortcuts to creating an email and somehow hide it from the worm
crawlers?

I own Frontpage 2003 and would very much appreciate a reply.
David Kennedy
(e-mail address removed)

 

[Thomas A. Rowe]

See inline below

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Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================

Another similar question - generally regarding forms related to the above
subject.

first, specifically frontpage (form handler) - can spam harvesters detect the
email address within the web bot tag/code when using the fp form handler? If you
view source, you can see the email address in the 'action/method' bit of the form
tag.

Yes, if you can see in the the source, then so can the spam bots

Second, can spam harvesters spot email addresses within <input type=hidden> tags
as is common when using form processor scripts - CGI, PHP, ASP (that is, if the
email address is not coded into the script itself) and the like, as opposed to
<mailto:> tags (which are the obvious target, but are the other methods using a
form also suseptible?

Yes, if you can see in the the source, then so can the spam bots

Is this correct? I know the safest way to avoid spam is not to use email!
however, some scripts also have the email address coded into the script which
apparently then are invisible to spam harvesters - if they can scan html pages
why not script files for email addresses?

If the page is ASP, PHP or another server-side script, then when the page is requested from the
server, the only thing sent by the server is the html content, script content is not HTML, but can
write HTML.

...and by posting it in the newsgroup, you can expect a lot more spam, and
many swen virus messages.

The short answer is "no".
You can also search this group for similar messages which will explain about
using asp forms and/or databases so your email address is not listed on the
site.
--
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Tom Pepper Willett [Microsoft MVP - FrontPage]
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Dear sir,
I change my email address about every 4 months because the SPAM worms

crawl into my site and lift my email address. Is there a way to have a
button that shortcuts to creating an email and somehow hide it from the worm
crawlers?

I own Frontpage 2003 and would very much appreciate a reply.
David Kennedy
(e-mail address removed)