EMail Bouncers

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Is there any freeware utility similiar to mail washer able to handle multi
accounts
Mail Washer freeware is limited to deal with
one account. Specially its bounce command is
very useful. Since using the bounce command there is a considerable
reduction in junk mail.
 
A free version that handled multiple accounts is still available. Someone
here posted the url, I'm sorry, I don't remember it.
 
Is there any freeware utility similiar to mail washer able to handle
multi accounts
Mail Washer freeware is limited to deal with
one account. Specially its bounce command is
very useful. Since using the bounce command there is a considerable
reduction in junk mail.
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NEVER bounce emails! Most of the spam is sent via hijacked or stealthed
accounts. You are not doing one bit of good by bouncing it. All you are
doing is clogging up the Internet with more useless traffic. Even the
creator of Mail Washer has acknowledged this, and has taken the bounce
feature out of the program.
 
Since using the bounce command there is a considerable
reduction in junk mail.

You *might* want to consider it is generally accepted wisdom that bouncing
spam causes more problems than it solves. Most spammer's "from" addresses
are heavily munged, bouncing merely adds to useless internet traffic.
 
Is there any freeware utility similiar to mail washer able to handle multi
accounts
Mail Washer freeware is limited to deal with
one account. Specially its bounce command is
very useful. Since using the bounce command there is a considerable
reduction in junk mail.
Click to expand...

By bouncing emails you are becoming part of the problem.
Don't become part of the problem.
 
| Is there any freeware utility similiar to mail washer able to handle multi
| accounts
| Mail Washer freeware is limited to deal with
| one account. Specially its bounce command is
| very useful. Since using the bounce command there is a considerable
| reduction in junk mail.
|

"Bouncing" emails would only be useful if spammers used genuine return
addresses.

The % of those that do is well to the > side of the .

That being the case all bouncing does is generate more useless traffic.

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All
Thanks for the advice.
I have been getting about 40 junk emails a day
which was making difficult to work on OE.
Since I started using the bouncing command the junk mail over the period of
2 months has
reduced nearly to nil. I think that is as a result
of successful "bouncing".
If that clogs the senders email, let them suffer.
I am under the impression that when the sender gets his message back few
times they
bound to ignore it in future.

I am not an OE expert. I think I made my point?
It may not be very clear?



Is there any freeware utility similiar to mail washer able to handle multi
accounts
Mail Washer freeware is limited to deal with
one account. Specially its bounce command is
very useful. Since using the bounce command there is a considerable
reduction in junk mail.
 
NEVER bounce emails! Most of the spam is sent via hijacked or stealthed
accounts. You are not doing one bit of good by bouncing it. All you are
doing is clogging up the Internet with more useless traffic. Even the
creator of Mail Washer has acknowledged this, and has taken the bounce
feature out of the program.
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That is what I used to believe however I have found that bouncing
small e-mails, nothing over 10K, my SPAM has dropped dramatically,
from hundreds per day to _perhaps_ one or two.
 
AAH said:
I have been getting about 40 junk emails a day
which was making difficult to work on OE.
Since I started using the bouncing command the junk mail over the period of
2 months has
reduced nearly to nil. I think that is as a result
of successful "bouncing".
Click to expand...

That's coincidence, not cause and effect. The decrease is due to something else. Rain dances don't
really cause rain to fall. . .
If that clogs the senders email, let them suffer.

I am under the impression that when the sender gets his message back few
times they
bound to ignore it in future.
Click to expand...

Bounced emails go to some poor innocent whose email address was used by the spammer. What you're
doing is EXACTLY like kicking the cat when you're mad at your boss. The cat doesn't deserve that
kind of treatment and neither do the recipients of your bounces. Getting thousands of bounced emails
because someone has "borrowed" your email address is not fun.

Susan
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Since I started using the bouncing command the junk mail over the
period of 2 months has
reduced nearly to nil. I think that is as a result
of successful "bouncing".
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I doubt it. Do you want to know why you are a spam target? Take a look at
your header. You are posting your real email address on Usenet, where
spam bots harvest it and it is sold to spammer mailing lists.

Bouncing has nothing to do with your spam load dropping. As it has been
mentioned, the spammer accounts are either automated or are hijacked
accounts. Nobody that breathes ever sees your bounced spam. The automated
accounts are ether set up not to accept incoming mail, or just to
automatically clear it.

Bounce all you want. If anything, you are doing yourself a disservice by
letting spammers know that your account is valid.
 
AAH said:
Since I started using the bouncing command the junk mail over the
period of 2 months has
reduced nearly to nil. I think that is as a result
of successful "bouncing".
Click to expand...

When you choose to bounce a spam with MailWasher, the spammer's address
is automatically marked to be blacklisted. So, the reduction you
observed could be a result of successful blacklisting.
 
All
Thanks for the advice.
I have been getting about 40 junk emails a day
which was making difficult to work on OE.
Since I started using the bouncing command the junk mail over the period of
2 months has
reduced nearly to nil. I think that is as a result
of successful "bouncing".
If that clogs the senders email, let them suffer.
I am under the impression that when the sender gets his message back few
times they
bound to ignore it in future.
Click to expand...

You are wrong. Any reduction you have seen in junk mail has nothing to
do with your bouncing the mail. I think you do not understand. When you
bounce junk mail, you are *NOT* sending it back to the junk mailer. You
are *NOT* clogging up their email. Almost all of these people use fake
email return addresses, for the very purpose of avoiding bounced
messages, so your bounces never get back to them. It is now widely
considered to be bad behavior to bounce junk mail due to the reasons
that have been explained to you, mostly because it simply adds to
internet traffic and slows down servers who have to process your
bounces. Even worse, if the junk mailer has hijacked a real person's
email address, you are causing that innocent person an incredible amount
of bother because you are sending the messages back to him/her instead
of to the junk mailer. If you continue to bounce you will be considered
to be a bad "netizen".
 
... Rain dances don't
really cause rain to fall. . .
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Unfortunately, you will never convince those whose crops have prospered
of that. They will continue to dance, and then, when the dances fail to
achieve the desired result, they will simply say that they need to learn
to dance better. On such is all religion based.
 
schrodinger's cat said:
You are wrong. Any reduction you have seen in junk mail has nothing to
do with your bouncing the mail.
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That's fine as far as opinion goes. Would you please back this up with
some kind of quantitative reference(s)?

tia,
Sparky
 
Sparky said:
That's fine as far as opinion goes. Would you please back this up with
some kind of quantitative reference(s)?

tia,
Sparky
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My simple answer to spam is using Thunderbird which has a quite
effective Bayesian = (more or less) self-learning email filter.

I sometimes send phishing email to abuse or anti phishing complaint
accounts. For this I use an automated web site that provides me with the
who-is information for the email. This is the address:
http://www.spam-rbl.com/parser.cgi

It's in French but I guess such a service will also exist in English.

Whenever I used this WhoIs search I alsways saw that the so-called
sender is never the real one. The sender addresses in spams are nearly
always forged. I even got spam from 'myself' or from my 'church'.
Should I have bounced myself ???
So, bouncing is really a behaviour you should consider to drop.

Cheers
Frank
 
reduced nearly to nil. I think that is as a result
of successful "bouncing".
If that clogs the senders email, let them suffer.
Click to expand...

< snip >

Thanks for letting us know your policy. Now when a spammer uses your
address as the return address we will know that you want us to return
all the spam to you.
 
AAH said:
All
Thanks for the advice.
I have been getting about 40 junk emails a day
which was making difficult to work on OE.
Since I started using the bouncing command the junk mail over the period of
2 months has
reduced nearly to nil. I think that is as a result
of successful "bouncing".
If that clogs the senders email, let them suffer.
I am under the impression that when the sender gets his message back few
times they
bound to ignore it in future.

I am not an OE expert. I think I made my point?
It may not be very clear?
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As far as I know Mailwasher bounces emails using the From:
address as the destination without doing any validation to ensure
it was the real source.

If you use Mailwasher to "bounce" emails without first verifying that the
From: address is the genuine sender, which usually IT IS NOT, then
all you are doing is sending on spam and viruses to another innocent
party and using forged headers, so you are no better than the original
spammer.

If anyone submits an abuse report about your bounced messages,
you are quite likely to get a warning from your own ISP for forging
their email address, spamming and possibly distributing viruses
any of which could get your account terminated.


Mel.
 
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