Edit Boot.ini

[MedRxMan]

My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the C drive and move the
WIN XP to the split C drive and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)


If I remove the second hard drive from the system and then split the C drive
into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

 

[Ron Sommer]

My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the C drive and move the
WIN XP to the split C drive and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)


If I remove the second hard drive from the system and then split the C
drive
into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP
image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

Change
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

to
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

 

[Mistoffolees]

My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the C drive and move the
WIN XP to the split C drive and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)


If I remove the second hard drive from the system and then split the C drive
into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

What is going to screw things up is the fact that there is a
primary partition in the 40 GB hard drive. Typically, the master
HD holds the primary partition with all other HD's usually being
extended drives with logical partitions. The image of Windows XP
from Drive D is essentially useless due to the original Drive D
being a primary partition and there can only be one of them in
physical Drive C.

Probably the easiest route would be to back up all important
data, information, picture, etc., files and start clean. First,
partition the 80 GB HD as Master with a Primary Drive C and a
logical Drive D. Re-install Windows 98, using a image file, if
it exists, for Drive C. Second, do a clean install of Windows
XP for Drive D, and this will also automatically take care of
the boot.ini file. The 40 GB drive, as slave, can then be made
an extended drive with logical Drive E, F and G. Finally, re-
install all apps separately for Windows 98 and Windows XP and
put all of the data, etc. files back into the system.

 

[Manny Borges]

My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the C drive and move the
WIN XP to the split C drive and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)


If I remove the second hard drive from the system and then split the C
drive
into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP
image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

What is going to screw things up is the fact that there is a
primary partition in the 40 GB hard drive. Typically, the master
HD holds the primary partition with all other HD's usually being
extended drives with logical partitions.

Sorry, but that is entirely fictional.
There is no issue with having multiple primary partitions on a single
disk.(max of 4) And in fact every basic disk MUST have at least one.

The image of Windows XP
from Drive D is essentially useless due to the original Drive D
being a primary partition and there can only be one of them in
physical Drive C.

Again, fictional. XP understands a system partion(the partition you boot
from) and a seperate boot partition(the system the OS lives on.)

The system eses ARC pathing to determine these on boot. Drive letters are
important once you have booted, but with the exception of c: these drive
letters entirely malleable.

So what exactly was your point?

Probably the easiest route would be to back up all important
data, information, picture, etc., files and start clean. First,
partition the 80 GB HD as Master with a Primary Drive C and a
logical Drive D.

Once again you show that you really don'y understand disk structure. You
need to make an extended partition first for the logica drive to exist in.

Re-install Windows 98, using a image file, if
it exists, for Drive C. Second, do a clean install of Windows
XP for Drive D, and this will also automatically take care of
the boot.ini file. The 40 GB drive, as slave, can then be made
an extended drive with logical Drive E, F and G.

Impossible. Extended partions cannot exist without at least 1 Primary.
Extended partitions have NO drive letters. They are mearly holding areas for
logical drives.

Finally, re-
install all apps separately for Windows 98 and Windows XP and
put all of the data, etc. files back into the system.

So why did you use an image at all?
You really have no idea what you are talking about, do you?

--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.

 

[Manny Borges]

I don't know what the use of this machine is, or what its other hardware is,
but I would generally recommend either a second cheap PC and a KVM (Keyboard
Video Mouse) switch or use Virtual PC on your main PC if it has the octane.

Seriously, to run windows 98, you can pick up an old p3 500 for 20-60
dollars and it will typically run fine. Try Geeks.com or ebay.

Then you can stick with a single OS and a simple partitioning structure.
KISS principle in action.

--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the
C drive and move the WIN XP to the split C drive
and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)

If I remove the second hard drive from the system

and then split the C drive into 2 partitions resulting
in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do
I hve to make to the current Boot.ini file now located
in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS=
"Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
/fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

Change
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS=
"Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
/fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

to
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS=
"Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
/fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

I agree.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Timothy Daniels]

Change
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS=
"Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
/fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

to
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS=
"Microsoft Windows XP Professional"
/fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

Be sure that the 1st partition on HD0 (the HD
that you now call "C:") remains the "active"
partition if you want to continue to use partition C:
as the booting partition,. Some cloners and/or
imagers will set the "restored" partition to "active",
and then your "D:" partition will get control at boot.

You apparently installed your WinXP after
your Win98, and the WinXP boot files (i.e.
boot.ini, ntldr, and ntdetect.com) were put into
the 1st partition in place of the Win98's boot
files. That's why you can boot the WinXP OS
using the boot files in the C: partition. If you
want to use your WinXP's partition to do the
booting (i.e. the new partition 2, or "D:" on HD0),
it will have to be a Primary partition (i.e. not
Extended), and it will have to be set "active".
If the D: partition doesn't have the boot files boot.ini,
ntldr, and ntdetect.com, copy them over from the C:
partition. You can use the same boot.ini menu in
D: that you have been advised to implement in C:.
The only difference in the boot process will be
that files in the D: partition will control the booting
(by virtue of its status being set to "active").

To set a partition "active" using Disk Management,
rt-click on the graphic representation of the partition.
If "Set Partition Active" isn't grayed out, left-click on it
to set the partition's "active" flag.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Ron Sommer]

Be sure that the 1st partition on HD0 (the HD
that you now call "C:") remains the "active"
partition if you want to continue to use partition C:
as the booting partition,. Some cloners and/or
imagers will set the "restored" partition to "active",
and then your "D:" partition will get control at boot.

You apparently installed your WinXP after
your Win98, and the WinXP boot files (i.e.
boot.ini, ntldr, and ntdetect.com) were put into
the 1st partition in place of the Win98's boot
files. That's why you can boot the WinXP OS
using the boot files in the C: partition. If you
want to use your WinXP's partition to do the
booting (i.e. the new partition 2, or "D:" on HD0),
it will have to be a Primary partition (i.e. not
Extended), and it will have to be set "active".
If the D: partition doesn't have the boot files boot.ini,
ntldr, and ntdetect.com, copy them over from the C:
partition. You can use the same boot.ini menu in
D: that you have been advised to implement in C:.
The only difference in the boot process will be
that files in the D: partition will control the booting
(by virtue of its status being set to "active").

To set a partition "active" using Disk Management,
rt-click on the graphic representation of the partition.
If "Set Partition Active" isn't grayed out, left-click on it
to set the partition's "active" flag.

*TimDaniels*

If the second partition is made active, then it will become C.
If XP boots, there will be problems because XP knows it was installed on D.
I don't know if Win 98 would boot.

 

[MedRxMan]

CAN I LEAVE THE 2ND HARD DRIVE IN PLACE AND USE PARTITION MAGIC TO CHANGE
THE PARTITION TO A LOGICAL DRIVE AND REFORMAT AND LEAVE IT FOR STORAGE?

into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP
image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

Then change:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

TO:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

In other words can the current 2nd HDD exist as 4 logical drives?

The 1st drive would be C (primary) and D(logical drive in an extended
partition) and the second drive would be 4 logical drives E,F,G and H?

 

[Ron Sommer]

CAN I LEAVE THE 2ND HARD DRIVE IN PLACE AND USE PARTITION MAGIC TO CHANGE
THE PARTITION TO A LOGICAL DRIVE AND REFORMAT AND LEAVE IT FOR STORAGE?

into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP
image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

Then change:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

TO:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

In other words can the current 2nd HDD exist as 4 logical drives?

The 1st drive would be C (primary) and D(logical drive in an extended
partition) and the second drive would be 4 logical drives E,F,G and H?

Yes, i could be done.
I don't know why you want 4 partitions.
This could be done with Disk Management in XP.

 

[Guest]

This is all Unnecessary.
Just repartition/split the C:\ drive. Format the back half for FAT32 or NTFS
as fits your need.
It will show up in My Computer as the letter after D:\ , [D:\ being XP,
still] since OS partitions are (usually) assigned letters closest to "A",
with data partitions and removable drives following thru the remaining
available alphabet.
Likewise, defrag and repartition the current D: drive.
You'll get C: Win98, D: WinXP, E: data(2nd half of old C, F:, G:,
HRemainder of old D
[CDrom may end up as E:, pushing data partitions back one letter each, if
you have one.]
{BootitNG from TeraByte: free trial (MultiFunction) Partitioner/ etc.}

 

[MedRxMan]

Thanks,
Im sorry, there were/are 3 partitions

Before the XP install I left the D empty in event of a HDD failure so all I
had to do was switch the IDE cable to Primary and reinstall an image. The
other partitions were one for images, one for data. I want to recreate the
same scenario.

Thanks for your input.

BLerner([email protected])

MedRxMan wrote:
My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the C drive and move the
WIN XP to the split C drive and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)


If I remove the second hard drive from the system and then split the C
drive

CAN I LEAVE THE 2ND HARD DRIVE IN PLACE AND USE PARTITION MAGIC TO CHANGE
THE PARTITION TO A LOGICAL DRIVE AND REFORMAT AND LEAVE IT FOR STORAGE?

into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP
image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

Then change:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
TO:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

In other words can the current 2nd HDD exist as 4 logical drives?

The 1st drive would be C (primary) and D(logical drive in an extended
partition) and the second drive would be 4 logical drives E,F,G and H?

Yes, i could be done.
I don't know why you want 4 partitions.
This could be done with Disk Management in XP.

 

[Ron Sommer]

Does an image restore to unpartitioned or partitioned space?
Do you have to have unused space to restore an image?
It is my understanding that an image will not restore to a space smaller
than the size of the original partition or drive.
Does your image include the whole drive?
Does the image include the boot sector?
You would probably have to run fixboot to write the bootsector to a restored
image on a new drive.
Now that you are dual booting, you will have to have C and D to run XP.
The XP boot files are on C and XP is and has to be on D.
--
Ron Sommer

Thanks,
Im sorry, there were/are 3 partitions

Before the XP install I left the D empty in event of a HDD failure so all
I had to do was switch the IDE cable to Primary and reinstall an image.
The other partitions were one for images, one for data. I want to recreate
the same scenario.

Thanks for your input.

BLerner([email protected])

MedRxMan wrote:
My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the C drive and move the
WIN XP to the split C drive and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)


If I remove the second hard drive from the system and then split the
C drive

CAN I LEAVE THE 2ND HARD DRIVE IN PLACE AND USE PARTITION MAGIC TO
CHANGE THE PARTITION TO A LOGICAL DRIVE AND REFORMAT AND LEAVE IT FOR
STORAGE?

into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP
image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to
the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

Then change:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

TO:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

In other words can the current 2nd HDD exist as 4 logical drives?

The 1st drive would be C (primary) and D(logical drive in an extended
partition) and the second drive would be 4 logical drives E,F,G and H?

Yes, i could be done.
I don't know why you want 4 partitions.
This could be done with Disk Management in XP.

 

[Manny Borges]

win98 must exist on the active primary partition

--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.

 

[Manny Borges]

I think I said quite unequivicobaly that you CAN NOT HAVE a logical drive
outside an extended partition.

You CAN NOT HAVE and extended partition without a primary partition on same
physical disk.

2 physical disks = at a minimum, 2 primary partitions.

--
Manny Borges
MCSE NT4-2003 (+ Security)
MCT, Certified Cheese Master

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who do understand binary
and those who don't.

CAN I LEAVE THE 2ND HARD DRIVE IN PLACE AND USE PARTITION MAGIC TO CHANGE
THE PARTITION TO A LOGICAL DRIVE AND REFORMAT AND LEAVE IT FOR STORAGE?

into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win XP
image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

Then change:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

TO:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS

[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

In other words can the current 2nd HDD exist as 4 logical drives?

The 1st drive would be C (primary) and D(logical drive in an extended
partition) and the second drive would be 4 logical drives E,F,G and H?

 

[MedRxman]

Does an image restore to unpartitioned or partitioned space?

Not an issue as I can partition the blank partition into 2

Do you have to have unused space to restore an image? Yes
It is my understanding that an image will not restore to a space smaller
than the size of the original partition or drive.

not true as long as the images data is small enough for the new space

Does your image include the whole drive? Yes
Does the image include the boot sector? Yes
You would probably have to run fixboot to write the bootsector to a
restored image on a new drive.
Now that you are dual booting, you will have to have C and D to run XP.
The XP boot files are on C and XP is and has to be on D.
True

My questions have been answered.. Until the time comes that I need more disk
space, I'll probably leave things as they are but wanted to explore my
future options NOW instead of scrambling later..
Thanks again for the input.

Thanks,
Im sorry, there were/are 3 partitions

Before the XP install I left the D empty in event of a HDD failure so all
I had to do was switch the IDE cable to Primary and reinstall an image.
The other partitions were one for images, one for data. I want to
recreate the same scenario.

Thanks for your input.

BLerner([email protected])

MedRxMan wrote:
My PC has 2 physical HDD

First HDD is 80 GB C: as Primary

Second HDD is 40 GB with extended partitions
D: 20GB Primary
E: 10GB logical
F: 5 GB logical
G: 5 GB logical
Currently have a dual boot.

I have WIN 98 on Drive C(primary)
I have Win XP on Drive D(primary)
Drives E,F and G are Data only(logical)

Want to keep the dual boot but want to split the C drive and move
the
WIN XP to the split C drive and keep the D designation.

I do have an image of the WinXP drive (D)


If I remove the second hard drive from the system and then split the
C drive

CAN I LEAVE THE 2ND HARD DRIVE IN PLACE AND USE PARTITION MAGIC TO
CHANGE THE PARTITION TO A LOGICAL DRIVE AND REFORMAT AND LEAVE IT FOR
STORAGE?

into 2 partitions resulting in a C and D drive and restore the Win
XP image
I have to the D drive, what edit modifications do I hve to make to
the
current Boot.ini file now located in th C drive root directory?

---------------------------------------------------------
My current Boot.ini

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"
--------------------------------------------------------

Then change:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

TO:
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
C:\="Microsoft Windows"

In other words can the current 2nd HDD exist as 4 logical drives?

The 1st drive would be C (primary) and D(logical drive in an extended
partition) and the second drive would be 4 logical drives E,F,G and H?



Yes, i could be done.
I don't know why you want 4 partitions.
This could be done with Disk Management in XP.

 

[Plato]

Im sorry, there were/are 3 partitions

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=314081
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=289022

 

[Timothy Daniels]

If the second partition is made active, then it will become C.
If XP boots, there will be problems because XP knows it
was installed on D. I don't know if Win 98 would boot.

While ntldr is running and the menu in boot.ini is being
displayed by ntldr, there is no operating system, and
thus no concept of "C:" partition. It appears that back
in the Win95/98 days, maybe the DOS days, "C:" was
synonymous with "partition 1" or "HD0". I think for
boot.ini syntax, that still holds.

In any event, the "active" flag just tells the HD's MBR
code which partition has the boot loader. I *believe*
that even if control is passed to ntldr in partition 2, the
meaning of "C:" in the boot.ini file will still tell ntldr that
Win98 is in partition 1. MedRxMan, please try it and
report your results in this same thread.

*TimDaniels*

 

[Ron Sommer]

While ntldr is running and the menu in boot.ini is being
displayed by ntldr, there is no operating system, and
thus no concept of "C:" partition. It appears that back
in the Win95/98 days, maybe the DOS days, "C:" was
synonymous with "partition 1" or "HD0". I think for
boot.ini syntax, that still holds.

In any event, the "active" flag just tells the HD's MBR
code which partition has the boot loader. I *believe*
that even if control is passed to ntldr in partition 2, the
meaning of "C:" in the boot.ini file will still tell ntldr that
Win98 is in partition 1. MedRxMan, please try it and
report your results in this same thread.

*TimDaniels*

My HP has Recovery on partition 1.
XP on partition 2.
Partition 2 is active and C.
Partition 1 is D.

 

[Timothy Daniels]

My HP has Recovery on partition 1.
XP on partition 2.
Partition 2 is active and C.
Partition 1 is D.

I'm not sure what that is supposed to imply,
but that does not contradict anything above.
Your partition 2 is "active", and so its boot
sector gets control from the MBR code. That
boot sector passes control to ntldr on the same
partition. That's how the boot process works.
When WinXP is loaded, it calls its own partition
"Local Disk (C" because it was the only
partition visible when it was installed, and so
"C:" was available as a name and therefore "C:"
was assigned to that partition. In my own PC,
there are 3 HDs, and there are anywhere from
4 to 11 primary partitions plus 0 to 4 logical
drives in an Extended partition. In each partition
resides a version of WinXP. Each WinXP, in any
of those partition can be loaded by boot files in
any of the ntldrs in any of the primary partitions.
All that is necessary for a particular ntldr to do
the loading is to have its HD at the head of the
HD boot order and to have its partition marked
"active". Then, using the menu in boot.ini, it can
load any of the WinXPs - from any partition on
any HD, regardless of what kind of partition it's in.
And each one that gets loaded and run calls its
own partition "Local Disk (C". Obviously, being
marked "active" has nothing to do with an OS
calling its partition "C:". But being marked
"active" has everything to do with which partition
on a HD has the honor of having its ntldr do the
boot loading.

*TimDaniels*