Duplicate Software

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L. V. Bekeris

I don't know if this is the correct newsgroup to ask the following question.
Which of the software are duplicates, and I could eliminate.

Ad-Aware 2008
Norton 360
Norton System Works
Registry Mechenic
Reg Cure
Malwarebytes - Anti Malware
Spyware Anti-Malware
Spyware Anti-Malware
Spy Zook 2.5

Any advise is appreciated\
Lyman
 
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Singapore Computer Service

Hello,

You have many spyware scanning software. They're not exactly duplicate as
each software does its job differently. From the list you have given
'Spyware Anti-Malware' is the duplicate I can see, and doesn't sound
legitimate. You may also want to do a spyware scan by using the following
programs
(free)
http://www.superantispyware.com/
http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php (you already have this)

Registry cleaners should be avoided. There was a recent discussion thread on
this in the xp general newsgroup.
See
http://groups.google.com/group/micr..._frm/thread/fc7c7def5a226dc2/33c8e792e64d11dd

We recommend staying away from registry cleaners. If you want a clean
registry, clean install XP.

Regards,
Singapore Computer Home Repair Service
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P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Ad-Aware 2008

....includes real-time protection; upgrade to Ad-Aware AE (also free)
Registry Mechenic
Reg Cure

Uninstall both ASAP! If you think your Registry needs to be "cleaned" or
"repaired," read http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099 and draw your own
conclusions.
Malwarebytes - Anti Malware

....free version provides no real-time protection; uninstall it?
Spyware Anti-Malware
Spy Zook 2.5

Never heard of them; uninstall them.

Consider adding Windows Defender (free) to your arsenal:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/defender/default.mspx
 
T

Tim Meddick

It is very important NOT to have more than ONE Antivirus software
installed on your machine at one time.

I'm not to sure of the function of too many in your posted list, but
advise you to see if more software than your Norton 360 is also
providing a resident antivirus service.

If so - uninstall it - Norton 360 is all you need regarding AV software.

I can see that some of that on your list is Anti-Spyware, Registry
Cleaners and other areas of anti-malware.

That's okay, as long as it is not another Anti-virus "suite".

I assume the MalwareBytes - Anti Malware is the unpaid for [free]
version - that's also okay, as long as it has not got the "resident"
protection of the bought version active - if you have paid for
Malwarebytes - you should uninstall it - having two "resident"
Anti-Virus programs running at the same time can cause major conflicts.

If it's the free version of - MalwareBytes - Anti Malware - your fine.

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :)
 
K

Ken Blake, MVP

I don't know if this is the correct newsgroup to ask the following question.
Which of the software are duplicates, and I could eliminate.


See my comments interspersed below.

Ad-Aware 2008


Not a duplicate, but an older version. You should update it.

Norton 360
Norton System Works


You shouldn't run two anti-virus programs, and you shouldn't run
Norton Anti-virus; it's in my view, the worst anti-virus product.

Instead I recommend NOD32, if you are willing to pay for an
anti-virus-product, or Avast, if you want a free one.

Registry Mechenic
Reg Cure


I would remove both of these. Registry cleaning programs are *all*
snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't needed and is dangerous.
Leave the registry alone and don't use any registry cleaner. Despite
what many people think, and what vendors of registry cleaning software
try to convince you of, having unused registry entries doesn't really
hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html

Malwarebytes - Anti Malware


The best anti-spyware program available. Good!

Spyware Anti-Malware
Spyware Anti-Malware


Those two sure look like duplicates to me. Moreover, it and the one
below are unknown to me, and are not among the better such products.
 
L

Lem

L. V. Bekeris said:
I don't know if this is the correct newsgroup to ask the following question.
Which of the software are duplicates, and I could eliminate.

Ad-Aware 2008
Norton 360
Norton System Works
Registry Mechenic
Reg Cure
Malwarebytes - Anti Malware
Spyware Anti-Malware
Spyware Anti-Malware
Spy Zook 2.5

Any advise is appreciated\
Lyman

You should have only one antiVIRUS application that is active.
Currently, you have Norton 360 for this. Although the majority of people
who post here have nothing at all good to say about Norton (Symantec)
consumer products, I have read that the latest versions of Norton
antivirus are not nearly as intrusive and resource consuming as they
have been for the past 5 years or so. If your version of Norton 360 is
recent, causing you no problems, and most importantly has some months to
run on its subscription, I'd suggest keeping it. Once your subscription
expires, you can think about getting a more efficient antivirus application.

You don't particularly need Norton System Works. Most of what is does
can either be done by other tools or is unnecessary. I would suggest
that you not use it to "Identif[y] and fix[] problems with the Windows
registry, system files, and software applications." This is likely to
cause more harm than good.

You will find almost total agreement in this newsgroup that you should
not use tools (like System Works) that purport to "fix" or "clean" the
Windows registry. This includes Registry Mechanic and Reg Cure. I
suggest uninstalling these applications.

MalwareBytes AntiMalware is currently a favorite here. Make sure that
you update it before scanning.

Ad-Aware used to have a good reputation here, but lately it seems to
have fallen out of favor. Ad-Aware (from Lavasoft) is currently up to
its "Anniversary Edition" which is version 8.0.7.

A good second antimalware application is Spybot Search & Destroy
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html

I've never heard of Spyware Anti-Malware or Spy Zook 2.5. I'd get rid of
them
 
B

Bruce Chambers

L. V. Bekeris said:
I don't know if this is the correct newsgroup to ask the following question.
Which of the software are duplicates, and I could eliminate.

Ad-Aware 2008
OK

Norton 360

OK, although there are better and less performance-bogging security
applications (most of them free) widely available. Personally, I don't
think any security "suite" is a good choice. Use smaller,
less-resource-draining stand-alone products.

I used, and recommended, Norton Antivirus and then Norton Internet
Security, for many years, on Win98, WinNT, Win2K, and WinXP, all without
any significant problems. I had used McAfee prior to that. But it's
been several years since I've been tempted to try McAfee products. Their
quality seemed to take a steep nose-dive after they were acquired by
Network Associates.

However, when my subscription to Symantec's updates for Norton
Internet Security 2002 came up for renewal (at a cost substantially
higher than the preceding year's subscription), I decided to try less
expensive solutions. Also, because Symantec only supports a product
version for a couple of years before trying to force customers to buy an
entirely new version, I downloaded and installed the free version of
GriSoft's AVG (http://www.grisoft.com/us/us_dwnl_free.php ) and the free
version of Sygate's Personal Firewall
(http://smb.sygate.com/free/default.php ). Both have proven to be
easily installed, easy to use, and quite effective. Additionally, I was
pleasantly surprised to see a small but very noticeable improvement in
my PC's performance, once I'd replaced the Symantec product.

Of course, since then, Symantec has purchased Sygate and ended the
distribution of the free firewall. Fortunately, there's still
ZoneAlarm, Tiny, Kerio, et al.

Norton System Works

A waste of money; Doesn't do anything that you can't do with Windows'
native tools. Once a useful utility suite, back in the days of MS-DOS,
when Peter Norton was more than a picture on the box, Norton Utilities
have been becoming increasingly useless and redundant over the years.
There's little offered by NU, regardless of its having been relabelled,
that WinXP cannot already do natively. And some of Systemworks's
features, like CrashGuard and CleanSweep (if they're still included)
cause far more problems then they prevent.

Registry Mechenic
Reg Cure


Remove them both. They're pure snake oil; either one will likely do
more harm than good. (To put it more precisely, there is a small but
very real chance that these two products can cause damage - sometimes
irreversible - to the registry, and a nearly 100% chance that they will
do nothing whatsoever useful.)

Why would you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry?
What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some
program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be
fixed by using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less likely
to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product to make
multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to safely clean
your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of the
device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in the
registry can have severe consequences. One should not even turning
loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is fully
confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a result of
each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the hands
of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and experience to
maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack the knowledge and
experience to safely configure and use any automated registry cleaner,
no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the use
of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's no
real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to make
any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there are any
registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general public to use.
Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools simply are not safe
in the hands of the inexperienced user.

A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

AumHa Forums • View topic - AUMHA Discussion: Should I Use a Registry
Cleaner?
http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=28099

Malwarebytes - Anti Malware
Spyware Anti-Malware
Spyware Anti-Malware
Spy Zook 2.5


While it's often a good idea to use two different anti-spyware
applications, to ensure wider coverage, 3 seems over-kill to me,
particularly in addition to Ad-Aware. And, of your 3, only MalwareBytes
has a decent reputation, that I've heard of. Perhaps some other
responder will have heard of, or have experience with, the other two.




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Ken Blake, MVP

Quite honestly they are all either outdated , useless or darn right
harmful applications.


I agree with you in general, but there's one glaring exception, as far
as I'm concerned: Malwarebytes - Anti Malware is not outdated, useless
or harmful. It's the best anti-spyware product available.
 

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