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DanR
DanR said:
I just discovered that F11 is ignored during startup. In disc management I
can see a partition that I thought was for restore but don't know how to get
at it.
I just discovered that F11 is ignored during startup. In disc management I
can see a partition that I thought was for restore but don't know how to get
at it.
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Michael Jennings
DanR said:
You can probably ask Vista to make the restore partition a boot option.
The Bcdedit.exe command-line tool is difficult, so use VistaBootPRO
http://www.vistabootpro.org/
If there is anything you want to keep you'll lose it if you don't back it up
from VHP before you wipe it out by booting Dell's MCE system restore.
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DanR
Michael Jennings said:
Thanks, Michael, for the information. I took a look and will give this a try
when I have more time. (weekend) I didn't see much in the way of
instructions or manual at the site. Is the program self explanatory as you
run it? And once you run it the first time have you obligated yourself to
any permanent changes?
Thanks.
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Guest
Having mulitple systems dual/triple boot, I have run into permission issues
as well when moving hard drives, etc. I have been able to access all my files
by changing the ownership/permissions of the "base folder" which in your case
might be "F:\Documents and Settings" to Admin or your normal username (make
change as admin) and having the changes apply to all sub-folders.
First, you need to uncheck the box called "Simple File Sharing" in the
Folder Options menu. Then for each folder, left-click, and go to
Properties:Security. Choose who can access the files, and sub-folders.
mandarin
as well when moving hard drives, etc. I have been able to access all my files
by changing the ownership/permissions of the "base folder" which in your case
might be "F:\Documents and Settings" to Admin or your normal username (make
change as admin) and having the changes apply to all sub-folders.
First, you need to uncheck the box called "Simple File Sharing" in the
Folder Options menu. Then for each folder, left-click, and go to
Properties:Security. Choose who can access the files, and sub-folders.
mandarin
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Michael Jennings
DanR said:
No, it won't work - I tried it out with my HP system recovery partition,
which lets me change my mind about doing a destructive restore. Vista
preferred to boot XP on the wrong drive. BootItNG probably can find
Dell system recovery unless BIOS won't let it. Here's a link to videos:
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/examples.html
Since you're considering dual booting, getting BING makes sense if
you have time to figure it out. Sorry I thought you might be able to get
your system recovery partition to boot with BCDedit - you can't.
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Guest
look at these technote : http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529/fr
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Guest
I've messed with Vista Ultimate way too much over the last week. I decided
to go back to XP Pro due to lack of Vista WHQL drivers for my Sharp AL-1551CS
Laser Coper/Scanner/Printer. Now to the heart of my question.
I've upgraded to a pair of 160GB SATA drives in a RAID Mirror. I still have
(what I think is a) pristine working copy of XP Pro on the old IDE Drive that
I had disconnected and re-connected several times while playing with Vista.
I have run the upgrade advisor, and am now totally confused by the results.
My printer shows up In the section saying there are no compatible drivers for
your device, as well as the section saying the device should work fine after
the upgrade.
Will I kill my RAID if I boot from the OLD IDE Drive (after switching boot
order in BIOS) while leaving the RAID drives attached? I'd like to experiment
with upgrading to see if it will actually see and install the printer driver.
to go back to XP Pro due to lack of Vista WHQL drivers for my Sharp AL-1551CS
Laser Coper/Scanner/Printer. Now to the heart of my question.
I've upgraded to a pair of 160GB SATA drives in a RAID Mirror. I still have
(what I think is a) pristine working copy of XP Pro on the old IDE Drive that
I had disconnected and re-connected several times while playing with Vista.
I have run the upgrade advisor, and am now totally confused by the results.
My printer shows up In the section saying there are no compatible drivers for
your device, as well as the section saying the device should work fine after
the upgrade.
Will I kill my RAID if I boot from the OLD IDE Drive (after switching boot
order in BIOS) while leaving the RAID drives attached? I'd like to experiment
with upgrading to see if it will actually see and install the printer driver.
S
Scott
Plesae....call me Scott.
You're right, it is possible.
I did.
First off, this is a new question. And you asked it in reply to
another unrelated question.
You should have started a new subject with your question.
2. As has been pointed out, your question is more appropriate in a
Linux forum. You'll find far more people with the experience you're
looking for.
3. I suggest you do an Internet search (Google, Yahoo!, etc) on this
subject. You'll find many many pages exploring the procedure. It is
the same with Vista as it is with Windows XP.
4. Most Linux distributions will handle the partitioning for you.
You'll be asked if you want to utilize free space and how much of it.
Then it will shrink your Windows partition and then format the space
for Linux, followed by installing it.
I'd recommend using Vista's disk utility to shrink your Vista
partition first and then let your Linux distribution install in the
unformatted free space.
5. Here are some good places for Linux questions.:
news://comp.os.linux.answers news://comp.os.linux.help
news://comp.os.linux.misc
If you don't have Usenet access you can access these newsgroups via
Google Groups.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.answers
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.help
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linxux.misc
And an excellent Web forum can be found at:
http://www.linuxquestions.org
--
Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
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DanR
Michael Jennings said:
OK and thanks for the heads up. I have located install CDs for MCE. My goal
is to get another hard drive D: and install MCE on it. I'll have to deal
with licensing issues I suppose. Reading other posts here "Buy a new
computer with Vista OEM and you get two product keys" I'm hoping that the
product key printed on computer will work for this re-install of XP MCE. (I
did upgrade from MCE to VHP)
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Michael Jennings
DanR said:
Here's a couple of dual boot links:
http://www.pro-networks.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88231
you know where to go for http://www.vistabootpro.org/
something to take care of about XP:
http://bertk.mvps.org/html/dualboot.html
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Guest
That's the exact reason i'll at least wait for the first service pack to come
out Dennis. I remember all to well the ME flop and this could be the same
thing. In my little opinion MS came out with vista just to make more money.
And yes alot of hardware will not work with it. Even some of their OWN
software won't work with it such as visual studio 2003. and alot of software
vendors probrams won't function with it either such as zone alarm which i
use. In reality its going to take vendors time to write a patch for their
programs so customers can use it on vista. And those vendors are waiting to
see what vista really is before they put the money into the needed changes
for vista. If vista is a flop then they won't have lost anything and i agree
with their thinking give it a year or two and a couple service packs to see
if they get all the bugs worked out and have a stable platform as xp is. All
we have right now is a bunch of hype, the same kind of hype they put out with
ME.
out Dennis. I remember all to well the ME flop and this could be the same
thing. In my little opinion MS came out with vista just to make more money.
And yes alot of hardware will not work with it. Even some of their OWN
software won't work with it such as visual studio 2003. and alot of software
vendors probrams won't function with it either such as zone alarm which i
use. In reality its going to take vendors time to write a patch for their
programs so customers can use it on vista. And those vendors are waiting to
see what vista really is before they put the money into the needed changes
for vista. If vista is a flop then they won't have lost anything and i agree
with their thinking give it a year or two and a couple service packs to see
if they get all the bugs worked out and have a stable platform as xp is. All
we have right now is a bunch of hype, the same kind of hype they put out with
ME.
D
DanR
I also am having many problems with Vista incompatibility and wish I had
stuck with XP. But way back when ... I upgraded from 98SE to ME and had no
problems and thought the extras that ME had were worth the money.
stuck with XP. But way back when ... I upgraded from 98SE to ME and had no
problems and thought the extras that ME had were worth the money.
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Guest
Too bad the vendors didn't have more notice that Vista was coming out! 
HAHA. I'm kidding. I would never have played with Vista if I weren't in the
computer industry and given a free copy to mess around with. Too bad I'm not
a good liar, becuase when my customers ask me what I think, I tell them a
nice version of what I think. We've all known about this OS since 2003,
don't you think the HW and SW MFG's would have been ready? We weren't at my
company.
It is a ploy to get you to buy new hardware. If it helps ASP (average
selling price) for a while, then I'm okay with it...Just not on my computer
yet until Sharp decides it wants to play nice with their loyal customers and
come out with a driver for my fantastic printer. Come on guys, you know you
make way more money on the toners and drums than you do on the initial
purchase of the equipment.
HAHA. I'm kidding. I would never have played with Vista if I weren't in the
computer industry and given a free copy to mess around with. Too bad I'm not
a good liar, becuase when my customers ask me what I think, I tell them a
nice version of what I think. We've all known about this OS since 2003,
don't you think the HW and SW MFG's would have been ready? We weren't at my
company.
It is a ploy to get you to buy new hardware. If it helps ASP (average
selling price) for a while, then I'm okay with it...Just not on my computer
yet until Sharp decides it wants to play nice with their loyal customers and
come out with a driver for my fantastic printer. Come on guys, you know you
make way more money on the toners and drums than you do on the initial
purchase of the equipment.
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Guest
I agree with Dennis, lots of people will have to buy unnessary hardware just
to make vista run right (which is a giant rip off because my machine isn't
old). Just for grins go look and see how many cracks there are for vista
ALREADY. That should tell anyone there are lots of giant holes in the
program, meaning it isn't nearly as secure as they say it is. I usually do
that as part of my reasearch to get new program ideas anyway. Like i said
the people who HAVE to get vista because its on a new machine aren't going to
be happy campers at all. We'll just have to wait for service paks to see if
it will become stable. One thing that has bugged me already when i did a
compatibility check was that visual studio 2003 won't work properly, and yet
they put a fix out for 2005 version. I swear i smell a flop coming just like
ME. Why mess with an already great operating system, even 2000 was great of
course there were very few changes between the two. I have yet to hear one
person that actually has all nice things to say. Want proof check out the
MSDN site, they are still serving and releasing things for XP, is that a red
flag?
To each his own but i'm not compromising my system for at least 2 years
maybe a little less if it turns out ALL positve
to make vista run right (which is a giant rip off because my machine isn't
old). Just for grins go look and see how many cracks there are for vista
ALREADY. That should tell anyone there are lots of giant holes in the
program, meaning it isn't nearly as secure as they say it is. I usually do
that as part of my reasearch to get new program ideas anyway. Like i said
the people who HAVE to get vista because its on a new machine aren't going to
be happy campers at all. We'll just have to wait for service paks to see if
it will become stable. One thing that has bugged me already when i did a
compatibility check was that visual studio 2003 won't work properly, and yet
they put a fix out for 2005 version. I swear i smell a flop coming just like
ME. Why mess with an already great operating system, even 2000 was great of
course there were very few changes between the two. I have yet to hear one
person that actually has all nice things to say. Want proof check out the
MSDN site, they are still serving and releasing things for XP, is that a red
flag?
To each his own but i'm not compromising my system for at least 2 years
maybe a little less if it turns out ALL positve
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Guest
How about this for stupidity. In the upgrade advisor, it shows my Sharp
AL-1551CS Laser printer/copier/scanner in the section with "incompatible
drivers" and also in the section where "it will work with Vista automatically
upon upgrade." What a crock. There is now way, no how the hardware is going
to work without a new WHQL driver for it. I've tried. Vista doesn't even
see it.
AL-1551CS Laser printer/copier/scanner in the section with "incompatible
drivers" and also in the section where "it will work with Vista automatically
upon upgrade." What a crock. There is now way, no how the hardware is going
to work without a new WHQL driver for it. I've tried. Vista doesn't even
see it.
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Guest
I am not so quick to agree or wait to use vista. This is Microsofts best
office environment software yet and as for hardware, true many companies are
still slowly making drivers for XP but they all seem to be working overtime
on Vista drivers, even logitech have vista drivers for older equipment they
haven't bothered making xp drivers for.
Don't get me wrong, I am an old dog who fights tooth and nail NOT to learn
new tricks, but I recently gave up my old square stone wheels and tried those
new fangled round rubber ones on my cart and now I am a little more
encouraged to trying new things.
As for the "buying" all new hardware. an inexpensive solution is buy an old
two bit slow computer and use it as a network system and attach your non
driver updated hardware to it. Vista is excellent at network interfacing.
Then you also have the option of building your own drivers and Microsoft
sites can be very helpful there.
office environment software yet and as for hardware, true many companies are
still slowly making drivers for XP but they all seem to be working overtime
on Vista drivers, even logitech have vista drivers for older equipment they
haven't bothered making xp drivers for.
Don't get me wrong, I am an old dog who fights tooth and nail NOT to learn
new tricks, but I recently gave up my old square stone wheels and tried those
new fangled round rubber ones on my cart and now I am a little more
encouraged to trying new things.
As for the "buying" all new hardware. an inexpensive solution is buy an old
two bit slow computer and use it as a network system and attach your non
driver updated hardware to it. Vista is excellent at network interfacing.
Then you also have the option of building your own drivers and Microsoft
sites can be very helpful there.
G
Guest
Timothy J. Trace said:
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Guest
Hi Timothy
I got Ultimate a few months ago, and been messing with the design of my
computer. I have two hard disks (per training and the reply below), one IDE
Seagate tape drive, a CD burner and a DVD burner. You do need two removable
drives these days, but I fool around and burn movies.
Anyway, I found Ultimate very easy to use. I worked with Macs and
Partition Magic and the Vista screen is very typical looking. I see you are
still posting messages on this board, so I will provide an answer for you.
1: Hopefully you have a motherboard with two IDE controllers and each ribbon
cable supports two IDE devices, that means you can have two hard drives.
Obviously one HD must be jumpered Master, the other Slave or CS. To get
around the my problem, I used a PCI Raid card so I can have 5 devices. But
you dont need that.
2: Go out and buy a Western Digital IDE if thats what you have or any brand
that offers SATA drives, if your motherboard supports SATA hard drives. WD
is the only one I found in CompUSA that is IDE. BACKUP the XP HARDDRIVE.
3: Dont bother to FDISK or format it, Vista installation will take care of it.
4: Jumper the new drive a slave OR CS (computer select) on the same ribbon
cable the XP hard drive is on.
5: When installing Vista, it will look up the hard drives you have and find
the new IDE or Sata drive and name it Drive 1. Drive 0 should be your XP
drive. Write down the size of the XP drive, for instance, how I could tell
is that XP is loaded on an 80 gig hard drive and my new Western Digital is on
a 260 gig drive, so it was not hard telling them apart. If your worried,
unplug the power from the XP drive.
5: Select the new drive and click on the format link (its not a button on
this install part) and the formatting seems to be pheominal, it did not take
very long. Click next and let Vista install.
When the install was done, everytime my computer boots the dual boot option
comes up and allows me to select my OS, either XP or Vista.
Its very simple. I understand you can install Vista onto a USB flash disk.
Its up to you if you want to go that route.
But for the rearranging part, and may be of no concern to you. To get my
computer to go, I installed 2 gig of RAM, installed the WD IDE drive, a
Geforce 5200 APG card (I get AERO), since I had 5 IDE devices, I found a PCI
Raid board and put the hard drives on the SCSI controller. I had to install
the Raid Driver, and it was sweet. Even though the AMD chip and motherboard
is old and has no PCI-E slots.
I was trained in a call center to support Microsoft Vista and know a great
deal about Vista.
You can email me at (e-mail address removed).
MrMikl
I got Ultimate a few months ago, and been messing with the design of my
computer. I have two hard disks (per training and the reply below), one IDE
Seagate tape drive, a CD burner and a DVD burner. You do need two removable
drives these days, but I fool around and burn movies.
Anyway, I found Ultimate very easy to use. I worked with Macs and
Partition Magic and the Vista screen is very typical looking. I see you are
still posting messages on this board, so I will provide an answer for you.
1: Hopefully you have a motherboard with two IDE controllers and each ribbon
cable supports two IDE devices, that means you can have two hard drives.
Obviously one HD must be jumpered Master, the other Slave or CS. To get
around the my problem, I used a PCI Raid card so I can have 5 devices. But
you dont need that.
2: Go out and buy a Western Digital IDE if thats what you have or any brand
that offers SATA drives, if your motherboard supports SATA hard drives. WD
is the only one I found in CompUSA that is IDE. BACKUP the XP HARDDRIVE.
3: Dont bother to FDISK or format it, Vista installation will take care of it.
4: Jumper the new drive a slave OR CS (computer select) on the same ribbon
cable the XP hard drive is on.
5: When installing Vista, it will look up the hard drives you have and find
the new IDE or Sata drive and name it Drive 1. Drive 0 should be your XP
drive. Write down the size of the XP drive, for instance, how I could tell
is that XP is loaded on an 80 gig hard drive and my new Western Digital is on
a 260 gig drive, so it was not hard telling them apart. If your worried,
unplug the power from the XP drive.
5: Select the new drive and click on the format link (its not a button on
this install part) and the formatting seems to be pheominal, it did not take
very long. Click next and let Vista install.
When the install was done, everytime my computer boots the dual boot option
comes up and allows me to select my OS, either XP or Vista.
Its very simple. I understand you can install Vista onto a USB flash disk.
Its up to you if you want to go that route.
But for the rearranging part, and may be of no concern to you. To get my
computer to go, I installed 2 gig of RAM, installed the WD IDE drive, a
Geforce 5200 APG card (I get AERO), since I had 5 IDE devices, I found a PCI
Raid board and put the hard drives on the SCSI controller. I had to install
the Raid Driver, and it was sweet. Even though the AMD chip and motherboard
is old and has no PCI-E slots.
I was trained in a call center to support Microsoft Vista and know a great
deal about Vista.
You can email me at (e-mail address removed).
MrMikl
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Guest
MY WIN XP WOULDN'T BOOT & DIDN'T HAVE THE INSTALL DISK TO REPAIR IT WITH!
WHEN I INSTALLED VISTA, THE SETUP PG GAVE ME NO CHOICE BUT TO INSTALL TO A
PARTITION #2. I'D LIKE TO GET INTO THE C:\WINDOWS.OLD FILE
(WINXP) & BACKUP (SAVE) WHATEVER I CAN! HOW CAN I DO THIS? & THEN RUN THE
VISTA WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A 2ND PARTITION!
REGARDS, (e-mail address removed)
WHEN I INSTALLED VISTA, THE SETUP PG GAVE ME NO CHOICE BUT TO INSTALL TO A
PARTITION #2. I'D LIKE TO GET INTO THE C:\WINDOWS.OLD FILE
(WINXP) & BACKUP (SAVE) WHATEVER I CAN! HOW CAN I DO THIS? & THEN RUN THE
VISTA WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE A 2ND PARTITION!
REGARDS, (e-mail address removed)
M
Mark Rae
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